Should organ donation be manditory?

[fenrizz]

After you are dead your organs go to someone who can use them.
What is the point of them rotting in the ground?

You don't need all the money you have now. How about the government make you give some away until you tell them to stop?

Besides, mine aren't rotting; my organs are going to the highest bidder!

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Actually, I do need all that money I currently possess.
And taking away the money from someone who is alive is not quite the same as taking the ogans from someone who is dead.

I do not know where you are from, but is selling organs to the highest bidder even legal there?

 

[Icehearted]

I say nay, unless we get a universal health care system... then I'd reconsider that position.

 

[TheEndlessSleep]

You don't need all the money you have now. How about the government make you give some away until you tell them to stop?

Please stop comparing organs to money, they are seperate issues.

 

[Shio]

Keeping them is being both selfish and illogical.

Logical to you.

Your logic =/= everyone's logic.

Your logic =/= fact.

Your logic = opinion.

You don't need all the money you have now. How about the government make you give some away until you tell them to stop?

Please stop comparing organs to money, they are seperate issues.

Not so much as you would think; both are my property and both have value. I just gotta wait until I die for my family to reap the rewards, lol.

 

[TheEndlessSleep]

Keeping them is being both selfish and illogical.

Logical to you.

Your logic =/= everyone's logic.

Your logic =/= fact.

Your logic = opinion.

You are honestly telling me that keeping your organs for no other reason than not wanting other people to have them is logical?

Logic is not opinion, it is logic.
Logic says that you no longer need your organs once dead, so they should be put to other uses.
Your opinion says that you do not want to give people your organs because you want them when you are dead.

You are defying logic; you are illogical.

Not so much as you would think; both are my property and both have value. I just gotta wait until I die for my family to reap the rewards, lol.

Yes, but you were talking about taking money from living people as though it was the same as taking organs from dead people; they are not the same thing.

 

[Trasken]

Ok people tell me what is so wrong with the current system? why is obligatory organ donations the right path?
And why should we forfeit some of our fundamental right in favor of the "greater good"? WHY? and please dont give me that crap about the right thing bla bla bla, why should i have to be born as a ticking organ donation until i reach 18 years instead of signing up of my own free will, as a personal moral decision when i reach 18?

Why is YOUR idea better than the current one?

 

[fenrizz]

Ok people tell me what is so wrong with the current system? why is obligatory organ donations the right path?
And why should we forfeit some of our fundamental right in favor of the "greater good"? WHY? and please dont give me that crap about the right thing bla bla bla, why should i have to be born as a ticking organ donation until i reach 18 years instead of signing up of my own free will, as a personal moral decision when i reach 18?

Why is YOUR idea better than the current one?

Because you don't need your organs after you are dead.

 

[Kurenaino]

I'm actually going to say it shouldn't be mandatory. It's not because I think organ donation's a bad thing. It's a great thing to do. But my major problem with making it mandatory is really an issue of personal safety. It is VERY difficult to determine the exact health of an organ after a person is dead, and many people may not know if their organs are healthy or not. A mandatory system would make the turn around for organs very fast, yes, but it becomes much more likely that a person could get an organ that could do more harm than good. This is a really tricky issue, and it really comes down to a cost-benefit analysis. Organ donation isn't as simple as blood donation, and a lot of factors go into giving a person an organ that will help them.

What we actually need is organ donation reform. As it is, a lot of organ doners don't actually donate their organs. A good deal of them simply get tossed because they're deemed unfit for donation for one reason or another. What we should have, at regular health inspections, are tests to determine if a person's organs are ideal for donation. If so, that should be discussed as an option with the person and their doctor. A lot of people don't donate simply because they don't know how to become a doner, or because they don't think they can. Simple testing could fix that.

 

[fenrizz]

Ok people tell me what is so wrong with the current system? why is obligatory organ donations the right path?
And why should we forfeit some of our fundamental right in favor of the "greater good"? WHY? and please dont give me that crap about the right thing bla bla bla, why should i have to be born as a ticking organ donation until i reach 18 years instead of signing up of my own free will, as a personal moral decision when i reach 18?

Why is YOUR idea better than the current one?

Because you don't need your organs after you are dead.

You dont need alot of things while your alive, how about we sell them and just give you what you need to survive ?

That is not the same thing at all.
If you do not take this discussion seriously, why even reply?

 

[Murray Kitson]

making organ donation an opt out thing is not plausible. imagine those who forget to sign when they renew their licence, there would be lawsuits from families of people who knew their lost loved ones had their organs taken.

but i don't believe this will be an issue after another 5 or so years. they are already able to create stem cells from adult blood cells, so we will be able to soon create new organs from the persons own D.N.A. reducing the rejection. this would not be a fix for cases where organs are needed immediately, but those who are on waiting lists for years can get replacements that are better suited to their bodies.

science makes life better, just gotta get the ethics and religious views out of the way.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

I'm okay with donating everything except my heart and my eyes. It's on my donor card. I don't know why, I guess its just superstitious genetic memory or something but the thought of them taking those two things makes me freak out.

If they don't have a donor card at least thier family should get to choose. Alot of people don't consider it while they are alive, when in fact they wouldn't mind. I don't think it should be compulsary at the end of the day it's your body and people 'defiling' it is kind of againt the principle of respect for the dead. A principle which, I think, is important even without religion.

 

[Coraxian]

No. I sure as hell dont intend donating my organs, call me an asshole or whatever you want, but they are my organs, I dont want to be half buried, have my organs in another person or buried with some other person while I am dead without them.

I can understand your sentiment, but in the opt-out system, if it really bothers you that much, you can just opt out.

Of course, since you're so attached to your organs, will you put it in writing as well that you won't accept any organs when you might need them in the future? Not that this is done in the opt-out system, but I personally would like to see it in there.

People may be, as you so nicely put it, assholes, but then they should be treated like assholes as well. Hell, seeing as my mood is so sunny today, I wouldn't mind them burning the organs that might save such an asshole's life before his eyes if it had gotten too old.

Or, even extremer, I wouldn't mind adding a clause where people can opt in again after they find out they need an organ. Of course, the clause will also state that if anyone else will need that particular organ after they've had it implanted, it would be removed from them again.

No people, it isn't like that, because there is something called ethics.

As for the one wanting to sell his or her organs... ever considdered you won't be able to pay for a new pair of lungs for yourself if you need them? Btw, isn't it time for your cigarette break yet?

 

[Murray Kitson]

Ok people tell me what is so wrong with the current system? why is obligatory organ donations the right path?
And why should we forfeit some of our fundamental right in favor of the "greater good"? WHY? and please dont give me that crap about the right thing bla bla bla, why should i have to be born as a ticking organ donation until i reach 18 years instead of signing up of my own free will, as a personal moral decision when i reach 18?

Why is YOUR idea better than the current one?

Because you don't need your organs after you are dead.

You dont need alot of things while your alive, how about we sell them and just give you what you need to survive ?

That is not the same thing at all.
If you do not take this discussion seriously, why even reply?

Except they are. Both are about what you have, dont need, and how those resources could go to where they are needed. I am taking this seriously.

actually, it is the same thing, just on a different scale. life vs. luxury. and if everyone in the world gave up luxury, life for those in poverty would have a better chance of survival. if you gave all the money you spend on video games to a 3rd world country, you could save thousands of lives each year.

 

[fenrizz]

Ok people tell me what is so wrong with the current system? why is obligatory organ donations the right path?
And why should we forfeit some of our fundamental right in favor of the "greater good"? WHY? and please dont give me that crap about the right thing bla bla bla, why should i have to be born as a ticking organ donation until i reach 18 years instead of signing up of my own free will, as a personal moral decision when i reach 18?

Why is YOUR idea better than the current one?

Because you don't need your organs after you are dead.

You dont need alot of things while your alive, how about we sell them and just give you what you need to survive ?

That is not the same thing at all.
If you do not take this discussion seriously, why even reply?

Except they are. Both are about what you have, dont need, and how those resources could go to where they are needed. I am taking this seriously.

You cannot use your organs after you are dead.
It does not compare to what I do or don't need when I am still alive.

 

[Trasken]

Ok people tell me what is so wrong with the current system? why is obligatory organ donations the right path?
And why should we forfeit some of our fundamental right in favor of the "greater good"? WHY? and please dont give me that crap about the right thing bla bla bla, why should i have to be born as a ticking organ donation until i reach 18 years instead of signing up of my own free will, as a personal moral decision when i reach 18?

Why is YOUR idea better than the current one?

Because you don't need your organs after you are dead.

And just because of that i have to give up MY organs for no profit whatsoever to my family because people need them? where's my right to choose not to? why can't i just choose if i want to? that's the real question why is signing up so bad and being forced to donate so good? why do i have to help out a stranger? because he needs it?
Forced socialism didn't work for the russians it sure as hell wont work for other countries

Because you don't need your organs after you are dead.[/quote]

 

[Dense_Electric]

I like the idea of "opt out" instead of "opt it," but not mandatory. Once again, not the government's place to tell you what to do with your own body, even after death. Though I agree, I think it is rather selfish.