*sigh* Okay, we need to talk about Avatar, really guys.
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The movie was good. "Changed the way you saw the world"? Um, okay. May I suggest you read "The Good War", by Studs Terkel? (The brackets are a part of the title). A damn good book.
Since I'm feeling jerkish at the moment, I would like to point out that the humans that the Na'vi sent back to Earth are probably going to tell everyone horror-stories about the planet, to try and convince the governments (or corporations, or whatever) to attack it with a real army. Or just wipe everything out with biological weapons.
Since I'm feeling jerkish at the moment, I would like to point out that the humans that the Na'vi sent back to Earth are probably going to tell everyone horror-stories about the planet, to try and convince the governments (or corporations, or whatever) to attack it with a real army. Or just wipe everything out with biological weapons.
If only MovieBob would visit these forums. He'd be the flyswatter so many of these "Avatar rocks/sucks" threads deserve.
I honestly don't get why movies can affect the world so drastically. For sure this is going to follow the Harry Potter craze and have a series of useless books attempting to squeeze money out of it while the phenomenon grows and before you know it they'll have a Na'vi dictionary and English to Na'vi translation books.
And another thing on the subject of movies affecting the world: Why the fuck is"The Force" in an Encyclopedia Britannica dictionary?
I honestly don't get why movies can affect the world so drastically. For sure this is going to follow the Harry Potter craze and have a series of useless books attempting to squeeze money out of it while the phenomenon grows and before you know it they'll have a Na'vi dictionary and English to Na'vi translation books.
And another thing on the subject of movies affecting the world: Why the fuck is"The Force" in an Encyclopedia Britannica dictionary?
This is totally not what you were trying to do, but i am going to do this to you anyways... They have Na'vi translation books! Where? HOw do you get these things! Tan-fucking-fastic! Cooler than pig latin, and currently not as nerdy as learning Klingon.Suiseiseki IRL said:
#A: A person's life is like a big empty barrel. Every experience adds something to it, a few drops of watter as it were. THis experience, for some people, added more than it did for others.Just Joe said:
#b: Sure, i think i will go read it.
#c: Yes i am sure they will come back, thus why the next movie will be called "Avatar: The Corporation strikes back" cause, as i have been trying to hammer home, Avatar is this generation's Star Wars franchise.
So we aren't allowed to state our opinon if it is negative? Ya,Avatar was a good movie, but it wasen't without flaw. And you honestly shouldn't be surprised that people are flaming it. It's popular, and some people believe that by saying "Hey everyone! Your favorite movie/Video Game/Show sucks!" they will become more popular among a certain crowd. It is silly yes, but it happens.
I really liked Avatar and I thought the world was beautiful but people who think our world can't live up to that glory needs to open their eyes.
I suggest watching one of the most upsetting films I've ever seen called Into the wild. The main character concludes, quoting somebody I forget... maybe Tolstoy... "Happiness is only real when shared". Our human relationships are way more beautiful than any glow-in-the-dark flower could be.
But also watch it because it shows you so many beautiful places around the world you'll think it's way better than avatar.
I suggest watching one of the most upsetting films I've ever seen called Into the wild. The main character concludes, quoting somebody I forget... maybe Tolstoy... "Happiness is only real when shared". Our human relationships are way more beautiful than any glow-in-the-dark flower could be.
But also watch it because it shows you so many beautiful places around the world you'll think it's way better than avatar.
I don't see what's wrong with Earth, I really like it here.
Can the Escapist just set a date, sometime in February, and on that day everyone can just vent out the last of their Avatar fumes. From that point on, any threads about it are insta-locked. Because I'm sick of the complaints, I'm sick of people hating on the complaints, people hating on the haters that hated on the complainers, people depressed from the lack of Pandora, people depressed because the big corporations are oppressing us.
Just can we please quit it? I know I don't have to take part, but I got the movie out of my system the day I saw it and then I discussed it a little. But I can't go a day without it being mentioned, it's like the second coming of Christ or something!
Can the Escapist just set a date, sometime in February, and on that day everyone can just vent out the last of their Avatar fumes. From that point on, any threads about it are insta-locked. Because I'm sick of the complaints, I'm sick of people hating on the complaints, people hating on the haters that hated on the complainers, people depressed from the lack of Pandora, people depressed because the big corporations are oppressing us.
Just can we please quit it? I know I don't have to take part, but I got the movie out of my system the day I saw it and then I discussed it a little. But I can't go a day without it being mentioned, it's like the second coming of Christ or something!
I'll respond on a point-by-point basis.LordNue said:
Numero Uno: Then why respond to the thread at all; why even read it? I want nothing to do with Britney Spears, Adam Lambert, Hannah Montana, 99.9% of musicals not starring Bjork, the Black-eyed Peas, Twilight and RPGs. And ya know what? I don't go near threads about them.
2: Your loss. Whether you're swayed positively or negatively by "the crowd," you have been swayed by the crowd, my friend. I'd suggest you do more thinking for yourself. If I like something, I don't care if it's the most popular thing in the world, or if nobody's ever fucking heard of it.
Examples? Kings of Leon. Don't quite love 'em, and they are indeed overplayed, but I'll take 'em over Nickleback and their twin brothers in Puddle of Mudd or the army of cheap Tool simulacrae any day. Also, Linoleum. Heard of 'em? But of course you haven't, because they never made an album, if my sources are informing me correctly. My "copy" was a demo I found at a pawn shop. So, the (arguably) biggest band in the world right now, and a band that never quite was that nobody's ever heard of.
What I'm saying is, you need to try to be a little more like me.
Son.
3: Oh my God, I can't wait for the two of us to go see Avatar together! It's got the best CGI ever! And the action scenes are badass! And the story, oh god, the story!
I've got a feeling its because of how much of a cultural icon Star Wars has become. Same reason why "d'oh!" was added to the Oxford Dictionary.Suiseiseki IRL said:
OT, the extremist reactions to the movie are getting out of hand, yes. I usually just ignore them, though.
The thread topic is about how pissed you are at other people for being pissed about a dumb movie about being pissed/depressed/happy after seeing it?
So really whats the point of the thread other than to have it filled up with
A) Arguments on whether the movie was good or not
B) Arguments on whether people who were depressed after seeing it can be justified.
C) Arguments on whether renaming mountains/historical figures/ or in plain English "A LARGE ROCK" after a movie reference is justified.
D) [HEADING=1]ARGUMENTS[/HEADING]
I would think if you wanted peace and order you'd stop bringing up the subject. But of course you're not the only one complaining on the internet.
I had a pet rock once, I named him Rocky...I guess I'm naming him after the boxer right, so wheres the press and media and fanboys about me taking a name from a movie and putting it on a slab o' rock?? Honestly though, a name is not just a name to many people, think about it...names come from the history of the place, most notably and usually explorers who founded it, why change it? Sorry Amerigo Vespucci, we want a cooler/hip name...like Terminator, America just doesn't do it for us anymore. We are now the United States of Termination!
So really whats the point of the thread other than to have it filled up with
A) Arguments on whether the movie was good or not
B) Arguments on whether people who were depressed after seeing it can be justified.
C) Arguments on whether renaming mountains/historical figures/ or in plain English "A LARGE ROCK" after a movie reference is justified.
D) [HEADING=1]ARGUMENTS[/HEADING]
I would think if you wanted peace and order you'd stop bringing up the subject. But of course you're not the only one complaining on the internet.
I had a pet rock once, I named him Rocky...I guess I'm naming him after the boxer right, so wheres the press and media and fanboys about me taking a name from a movie and putting it on a slab o' rock?? Honestly though, a name is not just a name to many people, think about it...names come from the history of the place, most notably and usually explorers who founded it, why change it? Sorry Amerigo Vespucci, we want a cooler/hip name...like Terminator, America just doesn't do it for us anymore. We are now the United States of Termination!
Well that was Godawfully snarky, wasn't it? I guess I need to do another point-by-point'er, eh?LordNue said:
1. Once again, Escapists, whenever someone responds to something you have said, QUOTING IT VERBATIM, please do not try to pretend that you did not say it. You, sir, said that you would definitely not be seeing Avatar, simply because "Avatar fever" has been driving you mad. And really, since Titanic was such a gyp, it's been since True Lies that audiences have been treated to a Cameron film worth watching. Just let us have our moment, son. And Cameron himself has accomplished what Pixar, ILM and all the other studios have been trying for decades: organic, (near-)human CGI. So let the old man have his moment as well. Watch Aliens or T2 and I bet you'll quit your bitchin' about Avatar pretty quick.
2. Let's see, what other things did I mention, from which you suggested I could "seek solace" (and I humbly submit that you should seek a dictionary)?
Britney Spears, Adam Lambert, Hannah Montana, 99.9% of musicals not starring Bjork, the Black-eyed Peas, Twilight and RPGs. Nope, can't possibly escape all of these. Because they're on the radio, on TV, playing in every goddamn store I go to, playing as the "on hold" music when I call my bill peoples, they're playin' at the club, they're trying to get starring roles in all the movies (I'm looking at you, Black-eyed Peas). So no, I wouldn't say Avatar has the same saturation as Hannah Poledancing Probably Kisses her ex-chippendale's Father Montana. But it's made more money, because people were hungry for quality after a year of vampires who twinkle instead of killing.
3. Ironically, it's a 3 hour movie, and no one is actually shoving it in your face unless you upgrade to 3d, as no one is forcing you to watch it at all. But every where I go, I get to see sexualized tweens (or younger - shudder) dancin' around in their midriffs singing that dumbass song about Jay-Z by a ***** who admitted she didn't listen to Jay-Z, and I can't unsee this stuff, brother.
4. Avatar, avatar, avatar... you know what, you SHOULD congratulate me, because I DON'T get it. I'll ask again, and I'm hoping for sincerity this time: why are you here?
I haven't seen it and I hope to never do. I don't want to get brainwashed and I think it's over hyped.