Since when was Being a Man Unattractive?

[BENZOOKA]

Sure, teenage girls don't understand that and some stay that way through life. I've found that some girls really do appreciate chivalry (to some extent). I think it's more about if you behave like a confident gentleman or not. Chivalry is still generally admired here in Finland anyways.

There's nothing better to make an impression to your girlfriend's parents than being all gentlemanly.

 

[IronicBeet]

Chivalry was raped, brutally murdered, and abandoned in a ditch some time ago.

 

[DannyBoy451]

Chivalry was raped, brutally murdered, and abandoned in a ditch some time ago.

And nothing of value was lost.

 

[sirdanrhodes]

Eh. Women are stupid. Guys are dicks. Eventually we'll all be dead, and it wont matter WHO beat whom, who fell in love forever, and who died lonely.

True words of wisdom from a depressive individual.

On topic, since when am I sexist for holding a door open for someone? And since when am I not allowed to say on my MSN PM "Christ, some feminists piss me off!"

 

[Insideout Ink Demon]

What happened to chivalry? During my whole childhood my dad taught me to be respectful to women. I would open doors for them, I wouldn't cuss in front of them, I would help them when they needed it. Hell the only fight I ever got into was beacuse I saw some dude hit a girl.

Yet after everything I do, I'm still left for the douchebag whose only goal is to get in her pants? I see it all the time. It is always some thug or some hippie/emo whatever who thinks he cool. I mean it seems that you have to spend over 20 minutes each day on your hair in order to get noticed anymore.

EDIT:
Just to be clear, I don't assume every girl in the world should love me. All I am asking is why does it seem like girls like a-holes instead of decent people.

It does sound like you want the girls your attracted to, to want to date you simply because your nice/a gentleman.
Unfortunately you need more than that, most decent girls expect being nice as a basic quality. Just like expecting wheels on a car; you wouldn't go "wow I'm buying that car with wheels" would you?
You'd go, "I'm gettin that car with the paint job/body kit/tinted windows/fluffy dice/etc that I like"
What you need sir is to focus on what other aspects of your person/personality that are attractive to the opposite sex, and bring them more to the fore front, while carrying on being the good person you are.

Side note: I would like to make two points about my post.
1) girls who keep going back to guys who treat them badly: you don't wanna be with girls like that, they've got issues and would probably cause constant fight with you to make sure you still love them. (from my experience)
2) chivalry? Well unless the chivalrous person is willing to do the same things for a man as they would a woman (ie hold doors open) then it's just plain sexism.

 

[IronicBeet]

Chivalry was raped, brutally murdered, and abandoned in a ditch some time ago.

And nothing of value was lost.

A lot was lost if you happen to be a chivalrous individual.

 

[Zac_Dai]

If I hold the door open for you enough will you fuck me?

Thats chivalry right there.

 

[Hazy]

Aaron Nix is an asshat.

That fucker owes me money!
Tell him I'm getting in my car right now...

OT: You don't want to come off as a butler. But, at the same time, don't come off as a total douche. Keep it exciting, but treat your girl with respect.

It seems like a balancing act - because it really is.

 

[Graustein]

Chivalry was raped, brutally murdered, and abandoned in a ditch some time ago.

And nothing of value was lost.

A lot was lost if you happen to be a chivalrous individual.

Being polite beats chivalry every day of the week, because politeness is unisex. As far as I can tell, the two are otherwise identical.

 

[Macgyvercas]

Who the hell picks an "I want to bang you" jerk over a Chivalris Knight in Shining Armor, anyway?!

OP, take my advice. If any girl prefers the former option, she's not worth it. At all.

Because the jerk won't be a clingy, whiny crybaby over everything? The jerk will most likely care about what they look like? I don't get why people condemn women just because they have standards that don't include "lonely nerd".

You don't have to be a nerd to be chivalrous. I've come across loads of men who are not the least bit nerdy and have chivalry to rival that of the Middle Ages (incidently, one of my two favorite time periods). And BTW, chivalry is more about being courtious and respectful, not being a clingy jerk.

 

[DannyBoy451]

Chivalry was raped, brutally murdered, and abandoned in a ditch some time ago.

And nothing of value was lost.

A lot was lost if you happen to be a chivalrous individual.

I've always found that being a generally decent person without patronising women still works pretty well.

 

[IronicBeet]

Chivalry was raped, brutally murdered, and abandoned in a ditch some time ago.

And nothing of value was lost.

A lot was lost if you happen to be a chivalrous individual.

I've always found that being a generally decent person without patronizing women still works pretty well.

I agree, though I find it really hard to be polite to anyone without being patronizing, at least a little bit. That doesn't just apply to women, mind you.

 

[jasoncyrus]

quote="OneBig Man" post="18.170799.4678983"]What happened to chivalry? During my whole childhood my dad taught me to be respectful to women. I would open doors for them, I wouldn't cuss in front of them, I would help them when they needed it. Hell the only fight I ever got into was beacuse I saw some dude hit a girl.

Yet after everything I do, I'm still left for the douchebag whose only goal is to get in her pants? I see it all the time. It is always some thug or some hippie/emo whatever who thinks he cool. I mean it seems that you have to spend over 20 minutes each day on your hair in order to get noticed anymore.

I wish I was born at least 2 generations ago.
EDIT:

Just to be clear, I don't assume every girl in the world should love me. All I am asking is why does it seem like girls like a-holes instead of decent people.[/quote]

You realise chivalry was only effective when 90% of the world's men were evil abusive men right? These days most guys have common decency in them when it comes to treating women like they would treat themselves. Sooo, it's merely been retired because it is no longer needed.

Yes I treat women 100% equally just like I'd treat my male friends, I cuss infront of them, hell cuss AT them when they piss me off and generally only help them when they ASK for it.

In short Chivalry is similar to treating them like a child. Which makes women think you are a douchebag, thats why they all leave you.

So basicallytreat them like a regular person not some fragile goddess that needs to be instantly spected and worshipped. Modern women *hate* that half the time.

 

[energetic]

My advice just don't go out with a spoilt girl I did. She expected attention and for me to do everything she wanted all the time. So when i gave her any attention she got annoyed that i was being too clingy, of course she didn't tell me till after we broke up.

So basically not everyones an idiot but they are from your individual pov, girls want you to do exactly what they want and your expected to anticipate these changing demands, and they get mad when you don't. So it's actually easier being a jerk, either that or spend the money and attention you wasted on a girl on something more important get a game for your console, do sports, or take up an instrument. Plus the last two usually lead to getting laid anyway.

 

[Insideout Ink Demon]

The Nice Guy (tm) uses the guise of friendship in order to get close to women then complains when they won't sleep with him because he is a friend. It's that kind of misrepresentation of intentions that pisses us off. More information here [http://www.heartlessbitches.com/rants/niceguys/ng.shtml].

I so need to send that link to a friend of mine.
We spent most the weekend trading messages on FB. Basically me ensuring him that life will get better, n im moaning he's unlucky in love.
He's pretty self obsessed, he never once asked how I was. So till doesn't know I'm on crutches, and when he does find out, he'll do that passive aggressive thing he does "you should have told me, I feel so bad now" then not shut up about how bad it makes him feel.

I know I enable him, I should say "grow a pair" but I just don't have the heart.

 

[Muzza-Maaate]

For you good sir

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[MrSnugglesworth]

Eh.


The world changes, and you just gotta roll with it.

Chivalry isn't dead, its just waiting for women to realize that its actually good.

 

[Pinstar]

"When a woman wrongs you, you may not strike her in anger. You are, however, permitted to reflect on the fact that with each passing day, she grows older. You are avenged 365 times a year."

In all seriousness, stick to your guns. Since you were raised to be chivalrous, it is clearly part of who you are. Don't give up who you are, just because not everybody appreciates chivalry. In the end, even if you don't meet a girl who specifically values chivalry, you might meet one who values a guy who is himself, and doesn't try to be something he's not.

 

[Muzza-Maaate]

Tell your girlfriend that talking to another man is cheating, especially cops, and when she asks why you said that, punch her in the face