Since when was Being a Man Unattractive?

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ace_of_something

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There are plenty of women who aren't like that. You wouldn't be compatable with her anyway if that's all she wants.
 

atalanta

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OneBig Man said:
What happened to chivalry? During my whole childhood my dad taught me to be respectful to women. I would open doors for them, I wouldn't cuss in front of them, I would help them when they needed it. Hell the only fight I ever got into was beacuse I saw some dude hit a girl.

Yet after everything I do, I'm still left for the douchebag whose only goal is to get in her pants? I see it all the time. It is always some thug or some hippie/emo whatever who thinks he cool. I mean it seems that you have to spend over 20 minutes each day on your hair in order to get noticed anymore.

I wish I was born at least 2 generations ago.
Being nice to women doesn't mean they're obligated to go out with you. Those things you listed are nice in a potential partner, but not enough in and of themselves.

Also, I highly doubt the people hot chicks are dating who aren't you are all to a man douchebags whose only goal is to get in her pants.
 

Jark212

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Dark Knifer said:
Jark212 said:
I feel you...

When those women correction girls reach there 30s they'll realize the mistake, and guys like me and you will be married with kids...
That is a good way to look at it, especially since this applys to me to...
There seams to be a large number of Gentlemen intellectuals on The Escapist...
 

OneBig Man

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Good morning blues said:
You're right. The problem is clearly with everyone else in the world except you.
I'm glad you understand.

EDIT:
And it is not just me. I'm sure there are plenty of people who haven't lost their mind yet to this world based off of pop-culture.
 

TheSeventhLoneWolf

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Erana said:
Those women are not worth your time if they don't appreciate chivalry, is all.
Perfect answer. As long as I still draw breath, chivalry is not dead.

-motivational line-
Who's with me?

On topic. I believe hyper-masculinity has become a stereotype, somewhat.
 

aPod

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Mmmmeh.

Its different for every girl. Obviously you dont want to come off as a total douchebag but you dont want to seem like a wuss either.

Heres a tip, take a girl out somewhere... find a random guy, make sure he's bigger than you. Ask "did you just call my friend here a whore?" Before he says anything punch him square on the chin... or if you have a strong head, do the headbutt. Guaranteed Chivalry Poontang. OR GCP.

Sadly, yes i have noticed this. Im actually the kind of guy who is chivalrous and sadly someone said it earlier girls in our age group dont go for that... but all these unhappily married women in there 30's they cant get enough of us ;)

Change your game up, be caring but neglectful. Nice but mean... i know it sounds wierd but they are women and well i cant say that i really understand them. Just along for the ride.
 

Vohn_exel

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My brother tries to get me to change who I am all the time to get a girl. But if I ended up with a girl that loved me for something she thought I was, it wouldn't be a great relationship. If they don't love you for who you are, it's not really love, is it? I'm just like you are TC, and hopefully I too will one day find the girl that's right for me. I can't be anything but what I am, and I hope that one day I'll find some girl thats insane enough to want to live with that forever :p.
 

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I know this is mildly off topic. But, I. Hate. Man-whores.

One of my friends, whom i shall only refer to as man-whore, went off and got his life fucked up because he dove into as many girls pants as he could. While i spent those years accepting my virginity. Now he has an illegitimate child with a ***** he hates to death, and i have a a girlfriend that i've been madly in love with for four years. And he has the nerve to whine about it to me. Aaron Nix is an asshat.

Anyways. Bitches be crazy. I found a nice girl. You can too.
 

adledog

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The secret is, do things that keep you around girls for extended periods of time. That way they see what a great guy you are
 

Shock and Awe

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I know from personal experience that most girls go for guys that have respect for women, but keep in mind girls don't like guys that are way too gentlemanly either. You just have to find a balance. Most women that I know appreciate a guy who is chivalrous, just don't take it to the extreme.
 

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TriggerUnhappy said:
I'm so sick of the "girls love assholes" stereotype, did ya ever stop to think that maybe they like them because they're confident? Or that maybe they're not assholes, but rather they just appear that way in your distorted view of the world?
I'm so sick of that stereotype too. I'm sick of people who are that stereotype.

Here's a tip for you: If your friends and family are all telling you that your boyfriend is an asshole, it's not likely because he forgot to open the door for you. It's because, you know, he truly is a complete loser asshole.

I'm sure he only cheats on you because he loves you. I'm sure he only beats on you because he loves you. I'm sure he only verbally berates you because he loves you. Stop lying to yourself already. Women need to learn to respect themselves and demand that others in their life be respectful as well or not be in their lives. Women aren't the only ones who need to do this though. The guys who act like doormats need to learn to respect themselves as well and stop letting women walk all over them. There's a difference between being a doormat and showing respect. I'm sure I could explain but I'm also sure that anyone who needs this explained would ignore me just as much as they do their own family when they say the same thing.
 

Mortons4ck

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A few points for your consideration:

I believe this goes back to our ancestors in the Ice Age. The douche bags were the ones that went out and hunted Woolly Mammoths, because back then there was nothing more bro-tastic than killing creatures for meat. Often times they would perform a ritual to sanctify and imply domination of said kill. (This ritual would later evolve into what we now know as the "T-bag".) Natural selection dictates that the man who brings in the most meat to provide, is the best partner.

Furthermore, many women are under the false impression that they can "change this douchebag of a man, into a wonderful caring human being." This viewpoint is very similar to a common delusion held by males in that "When she's talking about her feelings, she obviously wants me to give her constructive criticism about how to fix all her problems." These views will only invite disaster.

Vohn_exel said:
My brother tries to get me to change who I am all the time to get a girl. But if I ended up with a girl that loved me for something she thought I was, it wouldn't be a great relationship. If they don't love you for who you are, it's not really love, is it? I'm just like you are TC, and hopefully I too will one day find the girl that's right for me. I can't be anything but what I am, and I hope that one day I'll find some girl thats insane enough to want to live with that forever :p.
True, but you do want to get some relationship experience under your belt while you're young. Your WILL (and I know this sounds horrible) mess up your first couple of relationship. This way, when you do get into a relationship with someone you really like, you will have learned to avoid (most of) the pitfalls that would have otherwise spelled doom for your relationship.
 

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TriggerUnhappy said:
Here's a tip: It's good to be nice to girls, but don't try to act like a complete gentlemen all the time, otherwise you'll be seen as nothing other than a friend. Rather, flirt and joke around a bit, so they see you as possible dating material than just a "sweet guy", and make your move.
Best advice I've heard yet on the Escapist. Well done, sir. Have a cookie.

This works for me - every time I've tried thus far. Of course, then I'm too nice while IN the relationship, apparently, but whatever.
 

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Jark212 said:
Dark Knifer said:
Jark212 said:
I feel you...

When those women correction girls reach there 30s they'll realize the mistake, and guys like me and you will be married with kids...
That is a good way to look at it, especially since this applys to me to...
There seams to be a large number of Gentlemen intellectuals on The Escapist...
That's because all of the brain-dead asshats are out getting laid. Weren't you paying attention?
 

heyheysg

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Well the point of chivalry is that you don't expect anything in return.

It's kinda like karma, it will come back in different ways, just not the ones you expect