Slavery: The Game "Become The Most Powerful Slavetrader"
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Mikodite said:
damn thats a shame, I was looking forward to enslaving white people for an ironic (unserious) laugh
The only reasonable reason i can see someone making this game is to show people how heartless and depraved they actually had to be in order to make a fortune off of selling people.
I kind of get you. I've somewhat enjoyed mogul-esque games. Particularly historical ones. This may be crossing a line, though. My main thought, however was that this looked like it could just be a flash game. Like that one where you balance opium sales in China against the purchase of tea for Britain.[footnote]not that it's so comparable to slavery, but I'm British and I had no problem with that game.[/footnote]Istvan said:
All I can say is "meh", I'd have to learn more about it to know if I wanted to play it. Truthfully the slave trade in the era your talking about would have very little in the way of gamability. The actual reality is simply loading up on goods in Europe, sailing off to The Middle East, buying captured blacks from Arabs with the goods, and then sailing the slaves back to the Americas or back to Europe (depending on the trader and the time period). It would just be another trading sim, and other than perhaps fighting pirates occasionally or something there wouldn't be a lot to do. All the crap you hear about whites landing in raiding parties and dragging off screaming black people to be slaves is complete crap, the blacks were largely enslaved by arabs or other blacks and then sold, and this game saying "buy slaves" seems to at least have this right.
Now it could be more interesting if they set the game in another time period. See, whites didn't practice slavery very long, we just tend to tolerate the whining and feel guilty as despite all criticisms we're the most moral people in the world if you want to draw things along racial lines. Whites were never great slavers, rather our actual mark on human history is that we ENDED slavery which had been practiced by people of other ethnicities when they dominated. Blacks in the fertile crescent region, dusky and olive skinned mediterreneans, arabs, and others were the ones who practiced slavery for thousands of years. What's more it's kind of ridiculous when you look at the actual history of slavery and have the occasional people screaming about white cultural superiority as a natural order or whatever, because while we dominate now (and have for a while) in reality "we" (whites) were the planet's "special kids" and late bloomers. While we developed better than anyone in the long term and dominate globally for the moment, throughout most of human history we were actually the guys leaping around in crude skins and living in caves and crude dwellings while everyone else built these great civilizations. Babylon, Persia, Egypt, and of couse Greece and Rome all had these massive civilizations, and the white barbarians were hunted, murdered, and enslaved as a "lesser race", "we" didn't really get started on any signifigant level until after the fall of Rome.
Now, if I was going to want to play a game based around a slavery simulation I'd want to play such a game set in the ancient world during the actual golden age of slavery. That is where you'd have to outfit your raiding parties, engage in skirmish warfare to capture people, and then work on breaking and training slaves for differant purposes. As you begin you'd probably want to raid and sell newly captured slaves to others, but as you develop your empire you'd probably want to break and train the slaves so you could sell skilled and broken slaves to other businesses. As time went on you might very well start running your own whorehouses, gladiator stables, and hiring your slaves out for construction and such.
In the TV series Spartacus the gladiator school was not capturing it's own slaves, but you can see the potential for politics you might get involved in there.
Of course such a game wouldn't be politically correct as it would shatter the illusion of "blacks are victims, whites are evil", while at the same time not being intentionally baiting backlash for attention which is what the developers here seem to want. I very much doubt this game is being developed purely as an entertainment product as much as "for the lulz", with similar mentality behind it to games like "Ethnic Cleansing" or various conencetration camp and school massacre simulations.
That said, a really good ancient world slaving simulation full of sex, violence, decadent depravity, politics, and of course violence would be pretty awesome. It could include both empire management elements, and RPG development of your protaganist and his various troops used for raiding. Ultimatly I think it would work best set up sort of like "Mount and Blade" which already has a system for taking prisoners alive.
Now it could be more interesting if they set the game in another time period. See, whites didn't practice slavery very long, we just tend to tolerate the whining and feel guilty as despite all criticisms we're the most moral people in the world if you want to draw things along racial lines. Whites were never great slavers, rather our actual mark on human history is that we ENDED slavery which had been practiced by people of other ethnicities when they dominated. Blacks in the fertile crescent region, dusky and olive skinned mediterreneans, arabs, and others were the ones who practiced slavery for thousands of years. What's more it's kind of ridiculous when you look at the actual history of slavery and have the occasional people screaming about white cultural superiority as a natural order or whatever, because while we dominate now (and have for a while) in reality "we" (whites) were the planet's "special kids" and late bloomers. While we developed better than anyone in the long term and dominate globally for the moment, throughout most of human history we were actually the guys leaping around in crude skins and living in caves and crude dwellings while everyone else built these great civilizations. Babylon, Persia, Egypt, and of couse Greece and Rome all had these massive civilizations, and the white barbarians were hunted, murdered, and enslaved as a "lesser race", "we" didn't really get started on any signifigant level until after the fall of Rome.
Now, if I was going to want to play a game based around a slavery simulation I'd want to play such a game set in the ancient world during the actual golden age of slavery. That is where you'd have to outfit your raiding parties, engage in skirmish warfare to capture people, and then work on breaking and training slaves for differant purposes. As you begin you'd probably want to raid and sell newly captured slaves to others, but as you develop your empire you'd probably want to break and train the slaves so you could sell skilled and broken slaves to other businesses. As time went on you might very well start running your own whorehouses, gladiator stables, and hiring your slaves out for construction and such.
In the TV series Spartacus the gladiator school was not capturing it's own slaves, but you can see the potential for politics you might get involved in there.
Of course such a game wouldn't be politically correct as it would shatter the illusion of "blacks are victims, whites are evil", while at the same time not being intentionally baiting backlash for attention which is what the developers here seem to want. I very much doubt this game is being developed purely as an entertainment product as much as "for the lulz", with similar mentality behind it to games like "Ethnic Cleansing" or various conencetration camp and school massacre simulations.
That said, a really good ancient world slaving simulation full of sex, violence, decadent depravity, politics, and of course violence would be pretty awesome. It could include both empire management elements, and RPG development of your protaganist and his various troops used for raiding. Ultimatly I think it would work best set up sort of like "Mount and Blade" which already has a system for taking prisoners alive.
Well, all kidding aside this is one of the big questions about the actual golden age of slavery (prior to the time period of this game).Booze Zombie said:
Is it better to be dead, or a slave?
On the flip side, and perhaps more importantly to understanding it, do you as a conqueror want to literally put everyone that crosses you to the sword? Stereotypes aside, not everyone involved in building an empire through conquest is a psychotic sociopath.
Your army takes down a city state that refused to pay tribute to the king, their army is broken, but the people obviously REALLY hate you. Simply walking away or putting up a garrison is going to lead to short term tribute but no real leadership over the area since as soon as they can recover the people are going to recover. To take control you have the option of slaughtering all of the people there, or enslaving the people, scattering them through the rest of your empire, and ending their organized resistance and even their cultural identity over a period of generations. You wind up getting the land, the people, and don't have to massacre hundreds or thousands of surrendered men, women, and children.
You might say "I'd rather be dead than be a slave", but at the same token if you were say an Egyptian Commander, or commander of a few Roman Legions, would you want to massacre those people? Understand it's a differant time period, today this situation isn't really relevent since excepting perhaps the ambitions of China (which are scary if you listen to their rhetoric) nobody really engages in actual wars of conquest anymore and our principles about that kind of thing have changed for better or worse.
I know your kidding, but the odd thing is that in a modern sense where we empathize more with the victims than the conquerors, shooting a ton of people is actually today considered more moral than enslaving them because we, at least in the US, tend to take a "death before slavery" attitude. In fantasy if we're out to defeat a group of people utterly, in a fashion that generally wouldn't happen IRL, we find it more morally appropriate to kill them all, because in our armchairs we think we'd rather be dead than live in chains or see that happen to our children, so we're kind of doing the other guys a favor by being nice enough to kill them.
You fucking hypocrites.
Nothing wrong with running around New York mowing down innocent civilians or generally just executing people left and right.
New Deus Ex game is getting flak for stereotypes, not being rewarded for breaking people's arms and legs and then punching them in the face.
But gods forbid they make a game about slavery, how utterly distasteful!
Nothing wrong with running around New York mowing down innocent civilians or generally just executing people left and right.
New Deus Ex game is getting flak for stereotypes, not being rewarded for breaking people's arms and legs and then punching them in the face.
But gods forbid they make a game about slavery, how utterly distasteful!
Not if it's on the PC. There are no publishers needed for that.F said:
OT: What has this world come to?
Yes, but those are in fictional invornments. This was real.kinapuffar said:
In real life, You can't just bring a machinegun to a metropolis, kill 50 people, and expect to esacpe- Games like that are just low entertainment, which some people find fun.
But this, this is real. This happened. These people were tourchered for nothing, in an unfair and unjust world. And it still happens today.
Sigh... when I heard about Slavery: The Game, I thought it would be a dark and intense look into the horrors of the slave trade. A thought-provoking game that allows the player to experience firsthand the awful practice. But no. It's just someone else who doesn't give a crap about video games' social and cultural acceptance. These people need to stop existing, or at least stop making games; if you have no respect for the medium, don't freakin' add to it.
ITS NOT REAL!!! I saw the trailer and said, "this cant be right, no one would ever make this" Did 3 min in research and found that the developer doesn't exist, the ESRB has no listing for that game on and on and on. Its a hoax, either as a publicity stunt for something yet unnamed or it is made by some "games are evil" group to make gaming look bad in the eyes of the media. Its a sick joke, nothing more nothing less.