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D_987 said:
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and im going to have to ask you this and if you say what i expect you to say im going to have to call you a liar: have you ever used the sniper in gears 2 (2 NOT 1)
Of course I have; I played in a top 300 clan on the game...
and i was 1734 (give or take 10) in wingman for a while

if you can boldface call the sniper easy to use up close im either going to need some videos of you doing this or your a liar simply as that
 

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you may want to edit number 3 down the list there or im sorry but your a fucking retard
I disagree - how on earth was an active on Gears 1 fair - it meant the sniper took no skill and any "scrub" could use it... Gears 2 at least got that much right; the sniper shouldn't outright down someone (that is at full health) unless its a headshot.
 

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if you can boldface call the sniper easy to use up close im either going to need some videos of you doing this or your a liar simply as that
I'm sorry I'm not sad enough to record myself playing...

I honestly don't care if you (of all people; he who makes moronic statements like the one above) believe me or not - quite possibly the only reason you don't is because you can't use the sniper as a CQC weapon yourself?

You've obviously not played many shooters because the Gears sniper is possibly one of the easiest to use; sure its a little inconsistent, but the bullet always goes straight and they, for the most part, have fixed the hit detection.

So say whatever you want for all I care; I don't quite see why I'd lie over something so trivial though...
 

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True some games have uberpowered foot sniper rifles where shooting someone's big toe of blast their health bar to zero.

But I would say I'm a good sniper. If I played as any supporting gun it would be sniper in Halo, or when I get the chance on a good map on TF2 but now I play allot more cause the huntsman is awesome in tunnels and corridors.

I would probably give you a run for your money OP, just so you know I am hard to spot.
 

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D_987 said:
lizards said:
if you can boldface call the sniper easy to use up close im either going to need some videos of you doing this or your a liar simply as that
I'm sorry I'm not sad enough to record myself playing...

I honestly don't care if you (of all people; he who makes moronic statements like the one above) believe me or not - quite possibly the only reason you don't is because you can't use the sniper as a CQC weapon yourself?

You've obviously not played many shooters because the Gears sniper is possibly one of the easiest to use; sure its a little inconsistent, but the bullet always goes straight and they, for the most part, have fixed the hit detection.

So say whatever you want for all I care; I don't quite see why I'd lie over something so trivial though...
well you said that you played with top 300 clan or whatever so i thought we were having a state stupid shit no one cares about contest and no i didnt record myself playing and why the hell would i do that just when i started playing a lot i looked up my stats and found that i was in the 2000s so i played more and started watching my rank and that was the highest rank i hit since then i dont play half as much as i used to so my ranks have fallen

and again are you playing computer version? because the headshot dectection is not fixed and either you are a top sniper in gears or your a liar why you would lie about that i dont know maybe its your "im better than everyone" complex but im not sure you tell me
 

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D_987 said:
lizards said:
you may want to edit number 3 down the list there or im sorry but your a fucking retard
I disagree - how on earth was an active on Gears 1 fair - it meant the sniper took no skill and any "scrub" could use it... Gears 2 at least got that much right; the sniper shouldn't outright down someone (that is at full health) unless its a headshot.
well firstly i edited it about 7 minutes ago secondly he said gears 1 sniper< gears 2 sniper which is wrong

however thank god they got rid of actives jesus why become good at using it just active everyone down it was a load of bullshit and im glad its gone from gears 2
 

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I generally don't play as a sniper all that often because I see myself as being more valuable as a rifleman with a squad than being one of two guys that just sits there and waits to see if an enemy will wander by. However, I play the sniper role once in a while just for fun.

I played as a sniper a few times in several different games of warfare (ArmA MP mode). I remember one match where it took my spotter and I about an hour to get to our position (about 250m from the enemy encampment). We caused a lot of havoc and drew some fire once they had us located, but we managed to get out alive and make it back with some minor injuries. Damn that was a fun game!
 

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Symp4thy said:
maddawg IAJI said:
I have come up with five ways to tell the bad snipers from the good ones.

1) If they emptied there clip trying to kill one guy but failed to land a single shot. There a bad sniper.

2)If they complain about lag (when there is none) Is messing them up. There a bad sniper.

3) If they take the sniper and then the shotgun and charge the enemy. They are a bad sniper.

4) If they often point out a single (And proably there only) Snipe then they are a bad sniper.(We saw it. Yes you shot him in the head congratulation he tottally didn't see it coming especially since he is not playing. < I actually got paired up with someone like this.)

5) If they include the word Sniper or No-Scope in there gamertag...Well that doesn't techniaclly mean there bad but let's just play off sterotypes here.
Some comments on your list:
1) I love when a sniper is shooting at me and I run serpentine and watch as they unload a whole clip into thin air. Not only do they not kill me but have also just given up their position.
3) On the rare occasions that I snipe, I like to try to get the shotgun as well. However, I don't charge the enemy with that combo. I want the shotgun in case someone gets in close range of me.
5) That is the worst gamertag foul. Also, when someone has the word Halo somewhere in their tag. I once played against someone who commited a double offense in that regard. His tag was HaloSnipe...

Halo is really the only FPS I play online because it's the only game all my friends have, so I can only comment on sniping based on that. I don't snipe that often and when I do I'm usually below average with the occasional bout of genius. I play what I like to call "mid-distance," using the battle rifle. I don't run in, guns blazing, nor do I sit back and snipe.
That's basically where all the conditions come from. Halo is proably the reason why we have so many bad names. I think everyone who has the name Master Chief in there gamer tag should be banned from Xbox live. come on thats like a triple offence.
 

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lizards said:
well you said that you played with top 300 clan or whatever so i thought we were having a state stupid shit no one cares about contest and no i didnt record myself playing and why the hell would i do that just when i started playing a lot i looked up my stats and found that i was in the 2000s so i played more and started watching my rank and that was the highest rank i hit since then i dont play half as much as i used to so my ranks have fallen

and again are you playing computer version? because the headshot dectection is not fixed and either you are a top sniper in gears or your a liar why you would lie about that i dont know maybe its your "im better than everyone" complex but im not sure you tell me
Ok; first of all I was replying to your comment that you wanted to see videos of me playing...

Secondarily I never said they had outright fixed it, but play Gears 1 and then Gears 2 - improved.

Thirdly you obviously care enough because you haven't stopped replying - and I don't mean a top 300 clan as in the Gears 2 leaderboards; I meant on Gamebattles.com a competitive gaming site that is owned by MLG. I have since stopped playing on the site (for a good while now) but I used to be a decent rank and had been in a number of high-ish ranking teams (if you weren't in the top 50 you weren't considered to be of a high rank). That includes a top 300 Gears 2 clan, a top 600 COD4 clan, an overall rank within the top 90,000 players (out of over 500,000 - and ranks were not held to the individual player so I have no idea just how many people use/d the site) and 7th place in the Soul Calibur 4 ladder. And I don't think I have a "I'm better than everyone else complex" - you appear to have been one off a handful of people that have ever said that to me on the site, so if I appear arrogant thats why.

Finally; as I have also stated in this thread - I rarely play shooters anymore; I haven't played Gears online for a while, and only played it for the campaign on my new profile (that I have had a month now). (As in if you start challenging me or whatever). So my facts regarding Gears may well have changed - after all EPIC can't make a good multi-player game on consoles to save their skins...
 

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Ripshot said:
I despise snipers, and everything they do

I'm a midrange fighter, and I can't stand snipers and how they don't go for the objective or anything
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I might be one of the only snipers you'd like. My CoD4/CoD:WaW sniper classes are an assault rifle with a sniper rifle instead of my back-up pistol(overkill perk). I capture objectives, and fight on the frontline with my assault rifle, but I still have a sniper rifle to countersnipe and pick off enemies at long range.
I usually only ever have to take on shot with my sniper, and I've taken someone down. I'd challenge the OP, to try and knock him down a peg but I don't own a PS3.
 

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Im not trying to make myself out to be the ultimate sniper, im a good sniper, not because i can snipe quite well, its 65% anything but, i can cook grenades so when they bounce they explode (on games i can), i use my pistol like i would a machinegun, only more accurate and each bullet counts for me, i have great eyesight, so when i see a slight movement on screen i react (usually is nothing; most of the time on CoD4 its a paper or burnt paper), i make smart moves compared to the normal "run like hell", and i don't camp the way most of you guys think, i try going spec. OP on the enemy's ass, getting to a sniper position BEHIND your lines, if it comes to engagement, either i'll throw one of my greandes, (i NEVER on CoD4 noob-tube, or throw the grenade at the start, i keep it for later use.) get them with my pistol, or get mowed down. usually its the last one ¬.¬". Also not to mention people keep going on about snipers not going for objectives, i do, so i don't see what you complaint is there.

Besides there were 2 reasons for this thread.

1. I want to be taken down by a better sniper, not a machinegun, because thats the only thing i see people use, they haven't got the balls to grab a real weapon that, if you miss your usually screwed.

2. I also wanted to see people's point of view when it comes to snipers, machine-gunning meatheads claim how great they are, but explain what is so great about shooting about X amount of bullets to kill someone? i usually need only one shot, to the head, a machinegun at that point is overkill.
 

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I am pretty good, but I have to admit, it's mostly me getting lucky.

It's like, 10% skill, 90% OMG I can't believe I hit that guy in the head!
 

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Cuniculus said:
I am pretty good, but I have to admit, it's mostly me getting lucky.

It's like, 10% skill, 90% OMG I can't believe I hit that guy in the head!
Ahaha, i know the type, its better then the 12 year olds who go "DID YOU SEE THAT SHOT!? IT WAS AWESOME, HE WAS RUNNING AND I SHOT HIM IN HIS CHEST" the only times i go "wow" is when i do a freakin' awesome (+luck) shots, like on Hardcore Search and Destroy Ambush, i got the the sniping point next to the huge container, took a shot, and took 4 people out, my first words were "Fuckin' A" or just generic wall penetration headshots, feels awesome when it works :p
 

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I'm an aright sniper but give me a rifle or SMG (COD 5) and I'll run around like a headless chook and amazingly get alot of kills. Not braging btw.
 

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SirDeadly said:
I'm an aright sniper but give me a rifle or SMG (COD 5) and I'll run around like a headless chook and amazingly get alot of kills. Not braging btw.
If there is one thing i HATE is the luck some of you guys get, im a sniper with a pistol, and im facing Godforce-1, whereas when you have a SMG, the people around you become somewhat stupider, the amount of times I've watched a teammate on CoD4 run around carelessly and not going mowed down when he should have been.
 

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I would enjoy being a sniper a lot more, if not for:
A) The killcam on CoD - kind of ruins the point of a sniper and is unrealistic, but is OK as long as you keep moving.
B) The fact that in most games, hovering your crosshair near an enemy makes their name pop up in big red letters, which I think agains ruins the whole point of a sniper.
C)Sniper Rifles are never portrayed properly when "blind firing" (I.e. shooting without scoping) I mean, a gun is a gun, and if your character is holding the gun pointing at the centre of the screen, (which they are in most FPS's) then that is generally where the bullet is going to go, give or take maybe an inch or so at longer ranges. I'm sick of sneaking up on someone with nothing but ammo in my rifle, getting about a foot away from them, and then missing the shot because the bullet came out of the barrel at a near 90degree angle. It's stupid.
 

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Spirultima said:
2. I also wanted to see people's point of view when it comes to snipers, machine-gunning meatheads claim how great they are, but explain what is so great about shooting about X amount of bullets to kill someone? i usually need only one shot, to the head, a machinegun at that point is overkill.
I think you're missing the point of modern weaponry a bit.

Guns aren't designed with skill in mind, they're not designed because some ones going to put it into a game and everyone's going to have great fun pretending they're killing each other.
Guns are designed to kill people. This means that being able to fire "X amount of bullets" is a very good thing, because it does the killing bit very well. The problem with FPS's is that we forget that what we're doing is in now way similar to real life.

I mean how many times have you heard on the news that Middle Eastern rebel groups are complaining because our guns are imba and our snipers are too accurate.
 

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I'm a fairly good sniper. Better than most, not trying to be arrogant here, but I do think I am better than the average Joe. But I like to switch on and off with assault classes or weapons and snipers / ranged weapons