Sniping is officially WORTHLESS in Black Ops

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Cazza

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I never supported quickscoping. Although what they did to MW2 I'm not getting Black Ops anyway. So if quickscoping is what people want then thats what they should have. You take it out you please some you leave it in you please some. Well for people who hate quickscopes Black Ops is your game. For people who love quickscope stay with MW2. Simple.
 

Celtic_Kerr

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Phoenixmgs said:
SODAssault said:
Good riddance. Do you know how many times I've been one-shotted by an M40+ACOG at point blank range today before I could get a second shot off with my MP5? Today alone, it's been somewhere between ten and fifteen. Oh, and let me preempt the "lrn2play": I average around 30-10 per game, regardless of play mode. Quick-scoping is bullshit, it breaks the balance of the game by giving a player the ability to score a one-hit-kill at any range without having to aim for the head.
Quickscopers don't go 30-10 so what are you complaining about? Nothing wrong with quickscoping since it takes aim and skill, the aim assist is poorly coded. Isn't giving snipers the ability to kill at close range in one hit part of making it balanced? Because if you it took more than one shot or a head shot (that would just take too much skill) to kill, then a sniper has no chance up close against an automatic gun.
My question to you is what the fuck is a sniper doing in the open using his rifle like a machine gun anyways? That's what the sniper has a pistol for IF he needs to change his sniping position... you DO get a secondary weapon you know...
 

Ninonybox_v1legacy

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good riddance, i hated it when i would be yelled at for sniping at long range. apparently if you act like a normal sniper and "hard-scope" your a ***** because real snipers quick scope at short range....and yes this has been said to me before.
 

Malyc

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Paragon Fury said:
Oh my god, you actually have to snipe now, instead of abusing auto-aim and bullet magnetism.

Snipers (or DRMs) are not supposed to be up close. They are supposed to be in the back, annoying and picking off troublesome enemies. They're not supposed to have the highest kills, or the most score.

When you pick a sniper rifle, you are making an active decision to take a weapon suited for a certain purpose and role. Its not the weapon's fault that it doesn't what your twisted imagining of it is.

If someone gets up on you while you have a sniper, either hope your secondary or team can save you; because sniper rifles aren't supposed to, or even going to work at close range.

To put it more bluntly; if someone gets close enough to you where you are in danger of being shot or need to quickscope, you just failed as a sniper and deserve whatever fate is coming.

If you want to be up close, don't be a dumbass; bring an SMG, AR or Shotgun with you.
THE TRUTH! This person knows it.
 

Vault boy Eddie

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Go play in PC where you actually have to aim, keep crying you big aim assist needing baby. This guy would shit bricks in Bad COmpany, seeing his bullet drop a few feet when aiming directly at the head.
 

Sronpop

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This is nothing but bad mouthing and over exaggeration at this stage. So you can't hit for the first like .5 of a second after you zoom in. Wait another .5 of a fucking second and you can. Stop being so fucking twitch and line up properly. That is what they are trying to achieve. I want some real frame by frame/second by second breakdowns of exactly how long it takes before its accurate before I condemn anything. Some one shooting exactly after they scope, then complaining is falling on deaf ears as far as I am concerned. Why would you expect anything different.

Find someone who waits .2 of a second later before taking the shot instead of this jackass who says you have to wait 3 seconds before you can kill. It only takes half a second to aim anyway if you are good!
 

The Electro Gypsy

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Gimping stuff for the win, I do it all the time.

Also, stop whining and just learn the new way to play it.

Also also, no/less Snipers = win
 

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Phoenixmgs said:
SODAssault said:
Good riddance. Do you know how many times I've been one-shotted by an M40+ACOG at point blank range today before I could get a second shot off with my MP5? Today alone, it's been somewhere between ten and fifteen. Oh, and let me preempt the "lrn2play": I average around 30-10 per game, regardless of play mode. Quick-scoping is bullshit, it breaks the balance of the game by giving a player the ability to score a one-hit-kill at any range without having to aim for the head.
Quickscopers don't go 30-10 so what are you complaining about? Nothing wrong with quickscoping since it takes aim and skill, the aim assist is poorly coded. Isn't giving snipers the ability to kill at close range in one hit part of making it balanced? Because if you it took more than one shot or a head shot (that would just take too much skill) to kill, then a sniper has no chance up close against an automatic gun.
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snipers aren't supposed to have a chance at close range against an assault rifle because thats what assault rifles are for... by making them work as a shotgun with infinite range (which is what quick scoping does, if you say otherwise, you are wrong) you put every other class at a huge disadvantage. quick scoping isn't hard at all and if your kill to death ratio is any less than 2-1 you are an embarrassment to yourself and whatever platform you play on. and don't pretend quick scoping takes any sort of skill because it simply doesn't. in short: the developers have fixed a pretty glaring bug and if you don't like it, leave
 

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SODAssault said:
ItsAChiaotzu said:
SODAssault said:
Good riddance. Do you know how many times I've been one-shotted by an M40+ACOG at point blank range today before I could get a second shot off with my MP5? Today alone, it's been somewhere between ten and fifteen. Oh, and let me preempt the "lrn2play": I average around 30-10 per game, regardless of play mode. Quick-scoping is bullshit, it breaks the balance of the game by giving a player the ability to score a one-hit-kill at any range without having to aim for the head.
Quickscoping is broken, yet you use the MP5.

... Haha. This forum is freaking hilarious.
You act as though you've got a point to make, yet you make condescending remarks and explain jack shit.

... Haha. This forum is freaking hilarious.
I've made my points so many times I really don't even care anymore.

But essentially, quickscoping (if you use a reg scope) is arguably the most difficult strategy in the game and is in no way overpowered or cheap
 

Malyc

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Last time i played my sniper class, i went 12-0... by hardscoping people on the other end of the map. AKA using the sniper as it is supposed to be used. I even held my breath on most of them.

Holy shit, i figured out how to get a thread with 1000 posts... just ***** about something that everyone likes/re balance the game... The op is a clever bastard.
 

MiracleOfSound

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danpascooch said:
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You realize that's what sniping is right? You kind of just further encouraged the idea for me by basically saying "Now it's just going to encourage ACTUAL SNIPING"
Yeah but to me and anyone I play with, that playstyle tends to make the games a lot less fun, I don't give a shit what real sniping is like as long as the game moves at a good pace.
 

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Phoenixmgs said:
SODAssault said:
Good riddance. Do you know how many times I've been one-shotted by an M40+ACOG at point blank range today before I could get a second shot off with my MP5? Today alone, it's been somewhere between ten and fifteen. Oh, and let me preempt the "lrn2play": I average around 30-10 per game, regardless of play mode. Quick-scoping is bullshit, it breaks the balance of the game by giving a player the ability to score a one-hit-kill at any range without having to aim for the head.
Quickscopers don't go 30-10 so what are you complaining about? Nothing wrong with quickscoping since it takes aim and skill, the aim assist is poorly coded. Isn't giving snipers the ability to kill at close range in one hit part of making it balanced? Because if you it took more than one shot or a head shot (that would just take too much skill) to kill, then a sniper has no chance up close against an automatic gun.
Isn't that the whole f*cking point of a sniper type?
Snipers SHOULD NOT stand a chance against an assault rifle wielder. As a sniper you should kill them BEFORE they reach you, that's the whole damn idea.
On a related note I think that accuracy should have a 1-3 sec accuracy decrease during and after movement and a 1 sec decrease after a quick >45 degree turn.
 

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soooo your telling me they made snipers work like snipers? WOOOOT p.s guy on video stop whining quick scoping was one of the MANY faults of modern gay fuck stupid 2 so it's great it is gone
 

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Phoenixmgs said:
Furthermore, I don't snipe in any game online game I play because I'm a crap sniper.
no, wait. you are complaining that sniping is broken, yet you admit that you don't snipe online...and you decided to bring this up because...?
 

Nukeforyou

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ppl keep saying sniping is for long range.. have u seen the size of cod maps? thats not long range..
 

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If you want to play at close strange, you can play with a shotgun.

If you want to play at close range with a sniper rifle, go back to MW2.

Sniping is not worthless because the game lacks quick-scoping. If anything it will go for making sniping much more skill-based rather than people just quick-scoping and running around.

SNIPERS ARE NOT FOR CLOSE RANGE

I apologise for my use of caps, I just thought that some people needed it to get the point through their skulls.
 

Malyc

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Celtic_Kerr said:
Malyc said:
Celtic_Kerr said:
Malyc said:
Celtic_Kerr said:
Phoenixmgs said:
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So it's not actually worthless, it's just going to be more realistic? I'm pretty sure that in real life snipers don't go around quickscoping
CoD isn't trying to be a realistic game. I'm pretty sure in real life you don't pull out your knife and knife someone when you have your gun already out and you can shoot him.
Hint: It saves very valuable bullets.

Also: If you wanna make the knife more realistic, don't make it a one hit kill.
Actually, it depends on where you hit the person. If you knife the spot in the back of the head where the brain stem meets the spine, it will INSTANTLY shut down all bodily functions, including breathing, heartbeat, and any ability to move whatsoever.
This is true, but I can't count the number of times I ran by a PRONE player who slashed at the front of my feet and I fell dead. or when you knife someone in the arm and they die... They ***** about realism in videogames when you can kill a man by knifing his bloody hand... Come on...

Sure... 2-3 seconds is a bit much, but snipers are not meant to run around on the ground. they are meant to hide. "Sniper's nest" means something. I look around, I find them, I kill them with a pistol from behind. FOr fun. SNipers are the one class I don't care too much about camping, becase it's what they are madeto do
Finally, someone who understands the true concept of the sniper class. I think im gonna like you, man.
Not hard to grasp... In the army you have to be able to hold your breath for two full minutes. Doens't seem like but, but two minutes withou tbreathing is an eternity. Why do you need to do this? To be able to steady your rifle for a shot!

In th army, they will set a sniper out into a certain area and tell him: Hide for 1-3 days. We find you, you lose. we radio you, you win. Why? SO they they know how to hide... So why do people get so pissed when a sniper hide and has to steady his shot?
I am not sure... Even when hunting/target shooting, in order to get the best grouping, you have to steady your shot, AND gently squeeze the trigger. It would be so fing awesome if a game made the accuracy of your shot controlled by how hard you slap the trigger/ fire button.
 

Madshire

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Is it me or did the video show that its not actually broken, on 2 occasions the shot didn't register. All the other times he was on target, blame your lack of kills on yourself not the game.