So Brianna Wu's Revolution 60 came out on Steam

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Don't you have to buy a game on Steam to leave a user review on that game? Would people really hate-buy her stuff just to review bomb it? I know she pissed off some truly pathetic people, but that would be quite the show of dedication.

I suppose people could be buying it, playing it less than the refund threshold, bombing it, then getting a refund. Does the review stay if you do that?
Yes, it does. You don't have to play it or even install it.
 

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And someone gamers don't care about gets a lot of attention from gamers who don't care about them. This will never stop being funny.

About the game? Well, it looks better than the dross I see come out of Sterling's "Best of Steam Greenlight Trailers" series, so it meets some bare minimum standard at least.
 

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Not just GG. She and people like Zoe Quinn tarred a lot of gamers who had nothing to do with GG with the whole unhelpful "gamers are abusive monsters" stereotype, when GG was really just a vanishingly small collection of idiots on reddit and not at all representative of gamers as a whole. I had nothing to do with the whole sorry saga, but I found myself having to justify my hobby to people who didn't understand what was going on and just saw the articles in the mainstream press. Suffice to say, that annoyed me a great deal. I doubt I'm the only person irked at being tarred with the same brush as GG merely by virtue of proximity.
You're far from the only person, because I've heard this quite a bit. However, most of the time, when I'm actually shown the examples in question, they're usually not generalising everybody who takes part in the hobby, but rather identifying a specific behaviour or sub-set. Which is fair.

For example, when Jim Sterling was identifying specific (bad) behaviours that a number of No Man's Sky fans had been taking part in, the accusation thrown back was that he was tarring the whole playerbase of the game, which he never had. Similarly, when the infamous "Gamers are dead" article came out, I saw list after list counting other, perfectly moderate articles as equally culpable. To defend against what they saw as tarring everybody with the same brush, people were tarring everybody with the same brush.

TL;DR: I'm sceptical that this is actually the case.
I wish there were ways I could agree with this more. I'd also like to point out the rather irritating tendency of a certain particular subset of people and certainly not an entire audience to complain about how they're all being unfairly tarred by journos/pundits/bloggers whatever and then instantly turn around and say how all said journos/feminists/sjw's/whatever clearly want xyz games banned or censored.
 

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What is it, a PC port of an iOS game? No wonder it looks like ass.
She's spent the last few months reworking the game to make it more appropriate for a PC platform, and addresses complaints about the characters being too sexy by altering their proportions and outfits (IE, the main character getting more of an armoured look).

Her response to complaints there was no playable male characters was answered tongue in cheek style by tweeting a concept art for 'Broliday' - a muscled rhuby-rhod-a-like in a posing pouch who would work like the female character they added to Shadows of Mordor.
 

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Brianna Wu vs GG again, huh? How I feel about this:



 

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She's spent the last few months reworking the game to make it more appropriate for a PC platform, and addresses complaints about the characters being too sexy by altering their proportions and outfits
I doubt anybody's complained that these characters are too sexy, they're hideous.
 

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I dunno man, that game doesn't look very good. Apparently the port is poor as well with the UI still scaled for phone screens and awful textures.

I don't think it's right to abscribe intent like that, I had no idea Wu made the game before you said so and never would have even noticed. It's like when Paul Feig called everyone who didn't like the Ghostbusters trailer a mysoginist - the more likely explanation is most people just didn't like the trailer.

No Man's Sky also has mostly negative reviews but we don't chalk it up anything but to the game being bad.
 

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Ignoring all of the GG related stuff (I tried to stand firmly on the fence during that shit storm), it does seem like a genuinely shitty game and a lot of the reviews show that people did give the game a try. Maybe some review bombing happened, but honestly, the controversy around it probably caused it to sell a lot more copies than it had any right to. You can say "oh those Gators" all you want, but in the end, they probably made her more money than her limited talent/resources would have allowed for.
 

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I don't like the woman, but Jesus Christ that's ugly. I know looks aren't everything, but there are late 90s/early 2000s PC games which look better than that. Hell, I'd argue GLQuake looks better because GLQuake at least has a coherent colour palette and interesting designs, and was optimised for PC. Having a low budget and a lack of staff isn't an excuse; you're supposed to work with the limitations that you've got and find ways around them, not blithely power through them. Trying to sell this for ?7.00 is just offensive.
 

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Personally I think it just looks kinda bleh, and that's all the emotion I can really stump up on the issue. Of her game.

Still disgusted about the transphobism that came out when talking about her, one user on this very website very bad about it in particular.
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Y'know, it always makes me laugh when in some threads we bemoan the poor public image gamers have, and then in other threads we have people saying things like "That'll teach that woman to have opinions about gamers like two years ago!"- like we're all a bunch of fucking rabid attack dogs.

Honestly who even cares. If you wanna play her game play her game, if you don't, surely there are better things you could be doing with your time that review bombing.
It reminds me of my sister. She wants her life to be better and for people to like her more. But she doesn't want to actually DO anything to bring it about.
 

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Oh boy, somebody dug up the decaying body of an ancient controversity and began flinging it around.

To be honest, I used to support GG back in its early days. I mostly wanted major sites to edit their CoC, but that's it, all of the drama flew under the radar for me.

Politics aside, the game looks fairly poorly put together, even for an indie title.
 

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Can some of us get some backstory because i have no idea who this person is or why this game is note worthy?

edit: quick google turns up she is related to gamergate somehow? bleh maybe i dont want to know.
Readers digest.

She started off insulting everyone that wasn't in her immediate circle of friends, and then tried to sell a game to the very people she insulted.

Not the best business strategy (especially when said game looks like CGI arse from the mid 90s).
She is also the very definition of professional victim.
 

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Here Comes Tomorrow said:
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Windknight said:
The usual GG BS
The plot thickens!
As usual the truth is somewhere between the two. She isn't completly innocent in the whole affair.

Like the time she made a thread on Revolution 60s steam forum attacking herself (and refering to herself rather grandiosly as a "noted feminist") while still logged in under her dev account.

On topic: shes selling cut scenes and some other stuff as DLC for some reason, the Kickstarter backers had to pay $20 for the base "get the game" level and she then sold it for $10 on Steam and the "special edition" for $15. The kickstarter backers got keys for the basic edition.

Also, she claims to have made the battle music here

https://tweetsave.com/spacekatgal/status/701823289283444736

When it's actually a .99c royalty free track you can buy on amazon (sample included)

https://www.amazon.com/Cut-to-the-Chase/dp/B008S69D24
I did hear of her lying on that, damn. And screwing over backers is some Tim Schafer shit, of wait, its several times worse in her case.
 
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Oh holy jesus, fuck, those visuals are atrocious.

Anyway... Does anyone besides haters cares about games made by Wu at this point?
 

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Breakdown said:
Windknight said:
She's spent the last few months reworking the game to make it more appropriate for a PC platform, and addresses complaints about the characters being too sexy by altering their proportions and outfits
I doubt anybody's complained that these characters are too sexy, they're hideous.
To be fair, a good chunk of said criticism was from GG trolls trying to 'divide and conquer' by pretending to be 'SJW's'. Which is why Broliday was presented the way he was.
 

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AndrewVE said:
And of course, it gets negative reviewed bombed into oblivion.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/350200/

While I believe that quite a few of the negative reviews are genuine and are specifically targeting the game; looking at the rest, you start to suspect that these are mostly GamerGaters and alt-righters who have a long-lasting axe to grind with Miss Wu.
To be fair, unless the PC version was radically improved over the iOS original (to the point of being barely recognizable), it deserves every negative review it gets. It's a mess that has only gotten any real attention for two reasons: It has an entirely female dev team with a trans woman with the right politics at the lead and therefore gets automatic praise (remember all the cattiness that went down when she had coffee with the CEO of Stardock, which made her persona non grata for a while because he's a wrongthinker?) and she's not terrible at manipulating social media into generally believing that anyone who doesn't like her work doesn't like it because of misogyny or transphobia and revving up the social justice brigade to give her a boost.

My suspicion? The reviews will have an upswing for a bit as the twitter engine gets moving, then settle back into a "mostly negative."

At least it looks like she used higher res textures for the PC version. Hopefully she completely revamped the control scheme (which is not a thing that would work well on PC), so it can be merely bad and not unplayably so.

I'll admit the negative review that suggests the dialog was written by a parrot with a keyboard is a bit hyperbolic, but it's...really bad.