so, did Black ops fix MW2's problems?

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Crowser

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Akisa said:
The question is did they fix the biggest one? Does it still lack dedicated servers?
No, they added dedicated servers to this one. Well...that is if you're on the PC version.
 

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Some of the killstreaks are a real murder round. Seriously.

And, as a frequent care package user, I feel really diry when I get a chopper gunner or something, because that just stops the game right there and the opponents have no other choice but flee in terror.

Dogs are overpowered as fuck. Spawning's really problematic, about Reach levels of problematic.

The claymores are very difficult to spot.

Nuketown is the most random thing ever.

Other than that, it's really really good.
Yeah, Care Packages are dumb, my recommendation would be to not use them.

I'm not gonna talk about my thoughts on Black Ops so as not to get into a big argument, but suffice to say I'm not happy with some changes.
 

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The knife is still complete bullshit. Make it a two hit kill for god sake, or remove the auto lock/make it so that you can't knife while being shot.

High killsreaks are still way too powerful, especially on open maps. Try shooting down a Chopper Gunner when you're dead before you can even switch to your launcher.

RC Cars are infuriating and turn the game from a shooter into 'shoot then run away from stupid toy car-er'

Plus the spawns are the worst I have ever seen in any game. Ever.
 

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Most of the MW2 problems were fixed. The exception is the knife, which feels even more ridiculous now that you don't die instantly to gunfire. I swear half my deaths are Lightweight/Marathon guys sprinting at me and lunging 15 feet into my face.

However, Black Ops opened up a whole other set of problems that need to be addressed. From footsteps being completely silent, to snipers being useless, to almost unplayable matchmaking and party issues, there's a lot to hate about BO.
 

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Yeah, Care Packages are dumb, my recommendation would be to not use them.
Could do... but not going to. Dropping the smoke in a corner and then hoping no one gets you is very adrenaline-ish.

And I like the whole roulette thing.

MiracleOfSound said:
RC Cars are infuriating and turn the game from a shooter into 'shoot then run away from stupid toy car-er'
RC. Car. Should. Have. Bigger. Hitbox.

Gah.

But, wait, didn't you love the game or something? The knifing has always been horrendous in CoD (not as bad as in CS, I think, but still) and killstreaks are kind of hard to earn now.

Kind of. Not really.

No, actually, they're not too hard, I'll take that back. Gotta love Hardline.
 

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It fixed most (if not all) of MW2's main problems. But there are some new ones as well that have already been listed above.

Snipping is not as fun.
Takes awhile to find a match. (but a patch was just recently released to fix that)
Some killstreaks are a bit overpowered.
A few hit detection issues.
Spawinig is really bad.

But overall I'm still loving the multiplayer. And I'm really loving Hardline Pro.
 

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Well hasn't the latest Black Ops patch made footsteps louder? Looks like Treyarch are caving under peer pressure and just including crap they purposely took out in the first place.
 

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Master_Spartan117666 said:
All in all, they fixed what was broken, made a couple of mistakes themselves, and generally made it more enjoyable.
Plus, no more L+M+C Pro people dive-knifing from cliffs or spamming infinite rapid-fire noob-tubes.
GRRRRRRR
This.
They fixed everything, sure they have their own problems but they are nowhere near game-breaking.

Also, I hear a lot of Melee complaints, saying that it auto-locks on, but I prefer that to BFBC2's nigh-on useless melee.
Plus, it never angers me when I get knifed by it. I'm fine with it. Doesn't break the fast-pace.
 

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my only issue so far is because things like snipers and shotguns got nerfed, they don't get used. i've played about 10 hours online so far, on a variety of modes, and been killed about twice by snipers and maybe 4-5 by shotguns.

if you find the RC car annoying, equip flak jacket.

the big killstreaks are... unpredictable? (need a better word there). anyways, some games i've got a chopper gunner out of a care package, only to have everyone hide inside or shoot me down, resulting in poor kills. on the other hand, i've played against dogs on one of the small maps and almost getting spawn killed by the things! then again, i never felt the high end killstreaks were massively overpowered in MF2; if you die just switch to the stinger = done?
 

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You just have to learn to expect the spawn flips and you'll be fine.

Once in awhile I'll be spawn killed, but more often the not, I'm paying enough attention to realize when the spawn has flipped over and adjust as needed.

The reason the spawns are such a problem is because 90% of the gaming population has no clue about how to run a containment style of play, instead they just rush the enemy spawn, find nobody, turn around and get shot in the back...well duh, the game was waiting for you to turn around before it spawned the enemy.

Spawns are based on two factors: Your location and the direction you are facing.

Overall however, I'm enjoying BO so much more than MW2. I couldn't stand MW2 after awhile, it was just too broken.
 

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Crowser said:
Akisa said:
The question is did they fix the biggest one? Does it still lack dedicated servers?
No, they added dedicated servers to this one. Well...that is if you're on the PC version.
Wow no mention of it in 2 reviews I read (here and IGN), talk about skipping over the important issues. Well thanks for the reply, it's buy-able game (for me at least)...
 

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Black Ops is pretty good so far. While there is some improvement, the game doesn't look or feel as polished as MW2, and some of the maps weren't designed well, leaving me with a sense that SMGs and Assault Rifles are the only practical guns to use. While it wasn't a bad idea to make shotguns primary weapons, they need to be better! Bring back the Spas or something. It becomes sad when you see someone shoot at you 10 feet away with a shotgun, watch the buck shot fly at you and then take no damage.
Two major problems:
-Spawning. Spawning needs to be improved, as there are way to many times you reappear in the middle of enemies who just killed you.
-Parties. I thought MW2 was bad at keeping parties together, but behold, Black Ops is even worse. They even have their own join/invite menu and it still loves to screw up.
So it's ok, I'd give it a 7-8 rating and it'll need improvement before it can compare to MW2.
 

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JourneyThroughHell said:
RC. Car. Should. Have. Bigger. Hitbox.

Gah.

But, wait, didn't you love the game or something? The knifing has always been horrendous in CoD (not as bad as in CS, I think, but still) and killstreaks are kind of hard to earn now.
C4 is really good for RC Car protection, I discovered two nights ago. I always use it now because I love knowing I ruined some guy's stupid toy car on him.

And yeah I do love it... but like every COD game it frustrates me and makes me angry in equal measure... partly because I suck and partly because the connection issues mean I lose so many gunfights when I knew I shouldn't have.
 

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C4 is really good for RC Car protection, I discovered two nights ago. I always use it now because I love knowing I ruined some guy's stupid toy car on him.

And yeah I do love it... but like every COD game it frustrates me and makes me angry in equal measure... partly because I suck and partly because the connection issues mean I lose so many gunfights when I knew I shouldn't have.
Connection issues? Huh. Never had any. It's the best-working CoD for me in that regard thus far.

And I can't be bothered to remember about C$, so I just shoot at it and look like a jackass.

Oh, well. We'll see who's laughing, RC Car user, when my spy plane leads to us taking the HQ.

Oh yeah.
 

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The matchmaking system is ridiculously broken, but probably fixable. Apart from that, most of the old problems are gone.

Except for slightly overpowered killstreaks. Sure, you have to work to earn it, but chopper gunner on an open map... not cool. Especially when you need ghost pro to actually remain hidden from the super penetrating death machine. And you need to destroy a sentry gun to get ghost pro. And people don't use the fucking sentry gun. Fuck.
 

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DVSAurion said:
The matchmaking system is ridiculously broken, but probably fixable. Apart from that, most of the old problems are gone.

Except for slightly overpowered killstreaks. Sure, you have to work to earn it, but chopper gunner on an open map... not cool. Especially when you need ghost pro to actually remain hidden from the super penetrating death machine. And you need to destroy a sentry gun to get ghost pro. And people don't use the fucking sentry gun. Fuck.
Yeah, I had the same problem before I prestiged, needed that sentry kill to get ghost pro and I simply never found one to ever destroy...was really annoying.

Oh, and a matchmaking fix is going to be in the first console patch.
 

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My biggest gripe is that the crossbow only has explosive bolts :mad:

You have the crossbow, why not add its normal ammunition?

I hope for DLC attachments *fingers crossed*
 

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JourneyThroughHell said:
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Connection issues? Huh. Never had any. It's the best-working CoD for me in that regard thus far.

And I can't be bothered to remember about C$, so I just shoot at it and look like a jackass.

Oh, well. We'll see who's laughing, RC Car user, when my spy plane leads to us taking the HQ.

Oh yeah.
Maybe my internet just sucks.

Perfect example last night... the whole lobby got to see it in glorious slo-mo as in the final killcam, I shoot a guy with almost a full clip, run up and knife him right in the face standing pretty much ON him, only for it not to register and he kills me with one M16 burst to the leg. My buddies thought it was hilarous.

I have some nice Halo videos too that show the time disadvantage I have. It's very annoying but kinda funny, I have one where I melee a guy twice and almost a second after the second punch he Hammers me dead.