So... Gypsies are in the field behind my house.
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Bingo. The gypsies these guys are talking about are not the Romany ones you are probably thinking of, HG131- those guys are usually pretty cool. To put it in American terms, they're like if homeless people melded with the Mafia. They live in tight-knit groups, wander, and pretty much wreck any place they go. The "begging" described above in the garage anecdote? That's extortion- it basically translates to "give us your stuff, or else we will hurt you, and destroy your business." That is immoral. Even if it were just polite begging, doing just that and not contributing anything to society could very well be argued to be immoral, though that area is more gray. The gypsies that are causing the OP a problem are not whimsical nor kind, and they are not despised because of their race, but their actions. I know a former gypsy. She dropped out of that society and moved to the United States because of her son. She was almost certain that if they had stayed, he would be dead right now.poiumty said:
As for the OP, the only advice I can offer has pretty much already been said- keep your house locked, your possessions chained or inside, and don't let your animals out, if you have any. Better to have to clean up shit and piss then a corpse. Call the cops if they do anything even remotely illegal.
The man is back in town.whiston532 said:
So don't you mess around.
'Cause I'm TNT!
Hide your scissors, your guard dog won't stop them from sharpening them, if my grandpa's gypsy stories are right.
Friend of mine had a similar situation.
In the first couple of days his pets turned up dead, rubbish was dumped onto his property (we arn't talking crisp packets - we are talking burnt out household appliances and bags of human faeces), and his family was assaulted. His car went mysteriously missing.
The police were unable to do anything as any incursion onto the land claimed by the 'travellers' was met by organized violence.
My friend packed up his family and possessions and moved out of the property until the travellers were gone.
In the end the local council cut off water to the area and they travellers moved on to the next location.
When he came back his home had been burnt to the ground, and he claimed on the insurance.
In the first couple of days his pets turned up dead, rubbish was dumped onto his property (we arn't talking crisp packets - we are talking burnt out household appliances and bags of human faeces), and his family was assaulted. His car went mysteriously missing.
The police were unable to do anything as any incursion onto the land claimed by the 'travellers' was met by organized violence.
My friend packed up his family and possessions and moved out of the property until the travellers were gone.
In the end the local council cut off water to the area and they travellers moved on to the next location.
When he came back his home had been burnt to the ground, and he claimed on the insurance.
Kind of hard to do if they come to your door and want to either permanently 'borrow' something of yours or if they offer you the choice of ''give us money to do paint your house/tarmac your drive/etc (which we won't do and you don't want in the first place) and if you refuse expect us to half do it and then extort the money with threats of violence''.Ray Daniels said:
My advice is: get out now
In case anyone has the delusion that ''gypsy'' equals ''loveable rogue with painted wooden caravan and horses and distinct culture'' - that is as true as ''21st century somali pirate'' equals ''Jack Sparrow''.
Now I have no problem with the Romani people - but I don't think there are 100 of those camped outside the OPs house.
AWWWWW NINJA'Dwhiston532 said:
ah now I have to listen to the song now thanks
O.T. I never experienced them can anyone tell me what the deal is I'm curious
Being partly Romani myself, I must admit that my hackles went up when I saw the thread title.nikki191 said:
But it seems that the OP is talking about your basic garden-variety transients as opposed to any specific ethnicity or culture. (Even if the terminology that was used is confusing and potentially misleading.)
That said: call the authorities, keep all valuables under lock and key, and be wary.
gypsys are travelling people. this presents a problem unto itself. if you move around constantly you have no source of income, in this developed world food is hard to find legally (and yes i say find because they have no money to buy) and you have no attachment to anything around you. all you have are the people around you to hold yourself up. this tight-knit group becomes intencly loyal to eachother, making situatuions escalate dramatically. the only way they acn support themselve is through trade (and when your constantly on the move having anything worth selling, again legally, so they try to rip you off in creative way, which is where the term gyp'ed came from). gypsys are also known for teaching distrust in any outsiders (possibly they trust other tribes of gypsys i dont know. their moving lifestyle promotes trust in likeminded people, but knowing what they do themselves leads to knowing what other people could do, leading to distrust of those other people.HG131 said:
finally, gypsys are either a race or a culture, depending on the teachings of a specific tribe. some tribes demonize outsiders and therefore only allow breeding with other gypsys, thus creating a race. this point of view is not with all gypsys, in which case it is a culture
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It's too dangerous to go alone, take this with you!
lol, but in all seriousness, like everyone else here says, leave them alone, and if they try anything on you or the community or if something is going to/or has happened, call the police.
Also, if they try to curse you, simply go to a friend, put your thumbs and pointer fingers together and ask him to do a chopping motion on it while saying "Evil be gone!"
Usually works...
lol, but in all seriousness, like everyone else here says, leave them alone, and if they try anything on you or the community or if something is going to/or has happened, call the police.
Also, if they try to curse you, simply go to a friend, put your thumbs and pointer fingers together and ask him to do a chopping motion on it while saying "Evil be gone!"
Usually works...
That particular group of individuals, sure.Fists said:
But not the whole damn load of people, not the entire "category".
I'm uite aware that it is highly unlikely that they are from Eastern Europe. Most of the travellers I've seen have been of Irish descent.Demented Teddy said: