So, how about that PETA, huh?

[pantsoffdanceoff]

I think the only problem I think I've had with PETA is the red paint on coat thingy. I believe they want around throwing paint on people with fur which is stupid for a lot of reasons*. however I steer clear of PETA forums mostly because there's so much sarcasm already there that I have little more to offer such a thread.

*This is tertiary "I heard it from some guy" info, it could easily be very very wrong. However this is the internet and i have the a duty to spread such hearsay.

EDIT: It's really awesome how on threads like these everyone agrees with the OP. On anti-PETA threads, everyone is anti PETA and now here everyone's the understanding "Oh those other escapists are such losers".

I think about 3 people actually defended PETA in the last one.

Anyway, the red coat thing is to stop people wearing real fur. They don't do it to everyone, just people who will make big news like celebrites. Causes more publicity for them which they need. Plus, the celebs in general have a truck load of cash and very few morals.

It still bothers me because I'm very much of the philosophy that everyone should leave everyone else alone. PETA can think whatever they want but as soon as they start forcibly ousting their opinions on people like the red coat thing, [i/]no matter who[/i], I view them of violator of the mental bubble space. And I dislike any group that does that, no matter how pious their goals may be.

 

[quiet_samurai]

They spend so much money on propaganda that they can't afford to keep the pets under their protection alive.

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

http://blog.peta.org/archives/adoption/

Yeah, fuck them.

Agreed. So damn much!

And there are new stories about them euthanizing mass quantities of animals, just google it and I'm sure you will find load of them.

Read the above to find out why.

Helping dying puppies and starving kittens is all good and well, it's the other shit they do that make me mildly annoyed.

Just watch the the Penn & Teller: Bullshit episode devoted to them, it should be up on Youtube somewhere.

The fact that they compare chickens to the millions of jews who died during the second world war is just disgusting and just plain wrong. They also bomb animal testing labs that provide medicine to millions of people.

I don't agree with the bombing. That's probably for the extremists. Though, have you see the chickens and farmed animals go through. They're not saying it's the same as geneoside, one would have to be pretty damn thick to think so, but like I was saying, it's not to be taken literally. It's just showing the shit the animals go through to get to your plate.

I don't have a problem with euthanizing something if it's suffering, and yes I have seen both of those web pages. But do you think that all of the animals they kill suffer from atrocious injuries or some uncurable grusome cancer or infection? No, I'm sure they don't. It isn't the fact they are killing animals that annoys me, animals kill other animals everyday and humans kill everything in their path including other humans, so the death toll isn't what upsets me. What upsets me is how they go off on saving animals, and not to kill animals, and we as human's should do everthing we can to save them and then they go and do the very thing they preach against. If they are so pure and wish to save these animals why don't they spend less money on propaganda and holding rallies or waiting for you outside of a KFC to tell you about the rumored Frankenchicken, and spend it to help house the animals and care for them properly. All they are is a well funded, bat shit crazy, ill inspired, misled animal shelter with illusions of grandeur.

 

[PurpleRain]

Well, here's a short essay from a friend with whom the matter is far more personal than me.

Tell your friend that he is made of pure win. Seriously, that was a good read that did a fantastic job stating some of the shit PETA does.

It's a single article dude. It was a good read, but you need more opposing sides before laying an opinion.

They spend so much money on propaganda that they can't afford to keep the pets under their protection alive.

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

http://blog.peta.org/archives/adoption/

Yeah, fuck them.

Agreed. So damn much!

About 30 million annually, actually.

Which is more important to you, the life of an animal or a poster designed to incite hatred?

Killing those animals can only be good for them. A lot of the animals can't keep living for this reason. Others, like the pound, have no place to stay and would end up dragging down the group with costs. It is the only thing they can do.

I don't agree with the bombing. That's probably for the extremists. Though, have you see the chickens and farmed animals go through. They're not saying it's the same as geneoside, one would have to be pretty damn thick to think so, but like I was saying, it's not to be taken literally. It's just showing the shit the animals go through to get to your plate.

Yeah, too bad PETA actually funds some of these extremists.

And I did say I don't agree with it. I don't agree with a lot of things they do.

 

[SultanP]

Damn, PETA threads are cropping up like weeds in a garden.

And yes, people should think before they type, that way we might avoid every single one of these threads turning into flame wars.

 

[lacktheknack]

Heard of dancing bears?

I read a manual on how to train dancing bears, and it's not inhumane at all. The bear gets fed a lot of food throughout, and typically don't mind dancing.

But anywho, I think that PETA needs to read a copy of "Life of Pi", leave zoos and circuses alone, and get their pushy paws off of my food. I played the cooking Mama game, and read the factoids. Guess what? I already knew those, and I didn't really care before. Chicken is delicious, and I'm gonna keep eating it. I literally got attacked by a bombastic PETA supporter for eating turkey, and my protein fueled body knocked their fibre-and-starch clean on it's ass. He then told me that he'd make me sorry for torturing an animal. As if I personally killed it. And people think I'M a pushy, arrogant bastard because I'm religious.

 

[HardRockSamurai]

I kinda see PETA as the right wing animal rights group (Green Peace being the left.)

Their message (i.e.- be nice to animals) is constantly over-shadowed by dictatorial-like emphasis on controlling human behavior, a fact which has caused many of them to be labeled as hypocrites.

While I don't doubt there are some PETA members who would love to see all humans die just so the animals may live, but I do doubt that PETA was founded on extremist principles. In the end, I think PETA is a textbook example of something that has gotten waaaaay out of hand. I'm all for being nice to animals, but some of the stuff they suggest is just ridiculous.

Additionally, and some might find this surprising, I'm not against the ridiculing of PETA. Such ridicule has made more and more people aware of how extreme PETA can be; my hope is that, with enough ridicule, PETA might change it's ways.

And yes, I love their sexy ads. What man doesn't?

 

[PurpleRain]

As for animals in entertainment. Heard of dancing bears? Bull fighting? Pit fighting?

I have heard of these, but some clarification seemed necessary. Not all entertainment involving animals is brutal and disgusting.

Spoiler: I could see them objecting to this as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppy_Bowl

Daww

I don't think its immoral, I think its hypocritical. She and her group detest all products produced or tested on animals yet she uses it to survive.

Well, what else can she do?

(Also sorry, I've heard that used so many times and I hate it. Really, she may die without it or become extemely ill. It's not tested on pigs anymore is it?)

I don't have a problem with euthanizing something if it's suffering, and yes I have seen both of those web pages. But do you think that all of the animals they kill suffer from atrocious injuries or some uncurable grusome cancer or infection? No, I'm sure they don't. It isn't the fact they are killing animals that annoys me, animals kill other animals everyday and humans kill everything in their path including other humans, so the death toll isn't what upsets me. What upsets me is how they go off on saving animals, and not to kill animals, and we as human's should do everthing we can to save them and then they go and do the very thing they preach against. If they are so pure and wish to save these animals why don't they spend less money on propaganda and holding rallies or waiting for you outside of a KFC to tell you about the rumored Frankenchicken to help house the animals and care for them properly. All they are is a well funded, bat shit crazy, ill inspired, misled animal shelter with illusions of grandeur.

Read my post on 45) to find out why it is best. Plus they're most likely saving the animals from horrid living conditions if anything. They wouldn't steal kittens for the joy of it.

Plus, KFC is the devil to chickens.

 

[mykalwane]

PETA has done more to hurt animals the hunters is my sole problem with them. Any organization that can't do what they stand for don't earn an ounce of care in my book.

 

[Lonan]

What is it with all the PETA threads?
But what they try to do won't succeed. People love the taste of meat, and won't give it up.

It's not about meat! Read the OP!

However I think most of the people on that thread poking fun at PETA are split into two groups. Half of them are just winding people up and probably have no real ill will towards PETA or animals for that matter. Half of them are just complete tools that need to grow the fuck up.

I'd agree on that. Very much so.

They get attention all right. They want to boycott the seal hunt of Newfoundland of Labrador, while they ignore the seal hunt in their own country (Alaska, specifically). They also want to boycott Maple Syrup because Canada as a whole is one big facist, speciest, evil motherfucking country that is endangering the seal population by allowing 0.4 million out of 5.6 million seals (the highest it's ever been, I believe, because of global warming, don't ask how) to be killed every year. This will bring the species dangerously close to extinction when it is reduced to 5.2 million. MY GOD. And forget about how many of the useless water rats breed this season, logic is a neo-nazi plot to make it moral for Barack Obama to morally kill flies. Just my "two cents" as you put it.

So you're upset that they helped seals over here, but no that ones over there? That doesn't make sense to me.

I think they're too scared to screw with the lives of gun toting Alaskans, but a nice, peaceful country who's seal hunters won't be able to get at you, and probably wouldn't hurt you even if they did? BOYCOTT!

 

[Teh Ty]

Well, from what I hear, their hypocritical. They want to save all the cute little puppys, when they kill 80% of the ones they get. Plus, they rip down on the smallest thing. Example? Cooking mama.

 

[Slayer_2]

Honestly, I don't give a shit about PeTA. They are far too bold for their own good, but it doesn't affect me and I doubt they're going to be able to steal my hamburgers. As far as I'm concerned, they are nothing to me.

 

[PurpleRain]

Heard of dancing bears?

I read a manual on how to train dancing bears, and it's not inhumane at all. The bear gets fed a lot of food throughout, and typically don't mind dancing.

But anywho, I think that PETA needs to read a copy of "Life of Pi", leave zoos and circuses alone, and get their pushy paws off of my food. I played the cooking Mama game, and read the factoids. Guess what? I already knew those, and I didn't really care before. Chicken is delicious, and I'm gonna keep eating it. I literally got attacked by a bombastic PETA supporter for eating turkey, and my protein fueled body knocked their fibre-and-starch clean on it's ass. He then told me that he'd make me sorry for torturing an animal. As if I personally killed it. And people think I'M a pushy, arrogant bastard because I'm religious.

I don't think you know the dancing bears I'm talking about. They're illegeally taken first of all. Plus they have their teeth and claws removed and chainedup on a hat plate. not cruel is it?

Animals in circuses are cruel and I've known this since I wasa small child.

And you punched a PETA supporter? I'm sort of doubting your story.

I agree with the OP. PETA bashing is just the new French bashing. Also I hate how it's not ok to say "I like PETA" anymore, nowadays everyone expects you to add a qualifier like "but i disagree with their methods", or "but they're to radical for me". The truth is: Animal rights is a good cause, and PETA's methods raise awareness. There are two kinds of people, those who accept the status quo because it's all they know, or those who get off their asses and start change.

To bring in a related example: It's a lot like people who eat veal but "feel bad about it". There are two kinds of people: one who eats the veal and "feels bad about it" and one who changes their actions to match their sentiments.

Sorry if that made no sense, I'm tired.

I agree with you there. I don't eat veal. I don't even want to eat battery eggs.

 

[Nemorov]

I find it unfortunate that a group that is supposedly there to help stop animal abuse and cruelty uses shock tactics to further their own agendas, which from my personal overview, have little to do with helping animals and more to do with monetary gains and radical social change. This is change I do not personally feel would benefit either animal or human in the long-run. These are only my opinions and I do not wish to sway anyone one way or the other.

I hate the abuse animals sometimes suffer. I hate the way animals are processed in these plants. I really do want to support something like PETA. However I do not approve of radicalism, in any form.

And that is my two cents.

 

[Chilliman]

This was a very well written article, Sir.
Sadly I do not have time to read it.
SHORTER!

 

[PurpleRain]

Well, from what I hear, their hypocritical. They want to save all the cute little puppys, when they kill 80% of the ones they get. Plus, they rip down on the smallest thing. Example? Cooking mama.

What you've heard? Perhaps like I did, you should start a bit of research on them. You may be suprised.

PETA has done more to hurt animals the hunters is my sole problem with them. Any organization that can't do what they stand for don't earn an ounce of care in my book.

Care to back that up with some facts? Also, there's a link on the first page to their victories. It's quite long.

 

[PurpleRain]

This was a very well written article, Sir.
Sadly I do not have time to read it.
SHORTER!

You could shorten your own and just say tl;dr.

I find it unfortunate that a group that is supposedly there to help stop animal abuse and cruelty uses shock tactics to further their own agendas, which from my personal overview, have little to do with helping animals and more to do with monetary gains and radical social change. This is change I do not personally feel would benefit either animal or human in the long-run. These are only my opinions and I do not wish to sway anyone one way or the other.

And that is my two cents.

Okay, firstly it saddens me to think that you don't wish to learn nor change your opinion. I try to do this with myself as much as I can. Refine my own beliefs.

Anyway, like I said before, on the front page is a link to their victories. It is long and worth a read to see what they have accomplished. It basically makes this point
'have little to do with helping animals and more to do with monetary gains and radical social change' void.

 

[Teh Ty]

Well, from what I hear, their hypocritical. They want to save all the cute little puppys, when they kill 80% of the ones they get. Plus, they rip down on the smallest thing. Example? Cooking mama.

What you've heard? Perhaps like I did, you should start a bit of research on them. You may be suprised.

I've been trying to stay out of it. It seems like their cause is noble, but, still, if they ripped down on cooking mama, I think they might be going a bit too far.

 

[lacktheknack]

Heard of dancing bears?

I read a manual on how to train dancing bears, and it's not inhumane at all. The bear gets fed a lot of food throughout, and typically don't mind dancing.

But anywho, I think that PETA needs to read a copy of "Life of Pi", leave zoos and circuses alone, and get their pushy paws off of my food. I played the cooking Mama game, and read the factoids. Guess what? I already knew those, and I didn't really care before. Chicken is delicious, and I'm gonna keep eating it. I literally got attacked by a bombastic PETA supporter for eating turkey, and my protein fueled body knocked their fibre-and-starch clean on it's ass. He then told me that he'd make me sorry for torturing an animal. As if I personally killed it. And people think I'M a pushy, arrogant bastard because I'm religious.

I don't think you know the dancing bears I'm talking about. They're illegeally taken first of all. Plus they have their teeth and claws removed and chainedup on a hat plate. not cruel is it?

Animals in circuses are cruel and I've known this since I wasa small child.

And you punched a PETA supporter? I'm sort of doubting your story.

Punching someone is unbelievable? No, I knocked over someone who gave me a nosebleed and was trying to break my glasses.

And back a bit further, I've never heard the taking away the teeth and claws bit, or the hotplate. Then again, the manual was on how Gypsies did it, which approaches it as one might train a dog.

And animals in circuses are cruel? You need to read "Life of Pi". Then again, I assume most circuses work that way, maybe I'm just a naive twit.