They bought an abandoned prison building (which was trying to be purchased by a group who would use it for a homeless shelter) and turned it into a Lobster Sanctuary, a museum all about how we torture lobsters. Fuck those guys.
Boiled alive, just like the crabs I used to go and catch. Chuck em in the pot and have a beer while it cooks!
As you saw earlier in the thread PETA are a bunch of hypocritical extremist freaks, from those websites that were linked. I don't condone any of their campaigns or actions harrasing people.
Notice that the crazies only threw red paint on rich women wearing fur? Why not on the bikers wearing leather? They are a bunch of opportunistic bottom feeders.
the guys from PETA are the kind of guys that would see a dog trying to pull off a mans arm- the guy is in agony and bleeding and is trying to pry it's jays open
a PETA member would punch the man in the face and shout "leave that dog alone!"
also- how the fuck else are you going to kill a lobster- wring it's neck- how the fuck are you going to do that?- I know it's horrible but it's the only way
and the blood throwing thing- well would you feel safer pissing off some woman or a scary looking biker- they may be dicks but not even dicks like having nasty cases of caved in face
Actually my dad (who manages a genetics research centre in the UK) had a visit from one of them.
One of his staff who thought he was being clever asked her if she was driving a car and she saw a baby and a squirrel in the road and she had to hit one which one would she hit.....
She refused to answer ¬_¬
Anyway my cat would probably be upset if he couldn't stay with me - he's really sociable and loves being near/on people....
The hate is on Peta because they know how wrong a lot of what they are campagning for is, they aren't blind to their own hypocrasy yet they still endevour to show offensive adds. It is unreasonable to depict farmers who love and car for their animals as nazis running concentration camps at the best of times, but to do it when you know you're being hypocritcal is just plain disguisting.
They claim to be for all animals, that all animals are equal to the point of denouncing Obama swatting a fly, yet they also want everyone to be a vegitarian (which means mass produced crops, which means individual insect lives taken exponentially increases), the two doctrines contradict each other yet they endevour to pursue both.
They also rate animals more highly than humans, medicines (like say, insulin) that are developed within animals are a big no no. Inless you happen to be a high ranking member of peta, I mean, we wouldn't want the diabetic vice president (MaryBeth Sweetland) to suffer in the interest of upholding her ideals.
"I'm an insulin-dependent diabetic. Twice a day I take synthetically manufactured insulin that still contains some animal products -- and I have no qualms about it ... I'm not going to take the chance of killing myself by not taking insulin."--Glamour, January 1990
Yeah, so? look how popular he is though.
that doesnt make my point invalid at all.
Have you seen most of the female celebs used in PETA ads?
or just no name women?
they never, ever, ever have cloths on.
And then they tried tying THE HOLOCUAST to EATING ANIMALS...in thier "The Holocaust is On Your Plate" campaign.
They also support ALF which has been deemed a Domestic Terrorist Group.
PETA has also been linked to several militant groups from around the world.
they also put down more animals then they save and some of thier facilities have large walk in freezers used for storing dead animals.
Fuck PETA
I believe the PETA is a group who are highly illusioned. Especially on the topic on animal testing. I expect all of those who sign the petition to end it to be on the top of the list for human testing.
They bought an abandoned prison building (which was trying to be purchased by a group who would use it for a homeless shelter) and turned it into a Lobster Sanctuary, a museum all about how we torture lobsters. Fuck those guys.
So your saying that a building specifically designed to house large numbers of humans would be better served outlining cruelty to lobsters while there is still a sizable homeless population?
This is why I hate PETA. You see, nobody disagrees with their pro-animal message. It's that their views are ultimately anti-human that disgusts me. They're the kind of people who would raise a stink over a monkey getting killed while tearing off someone's face while a hurricane or famine ravages thousands of people.
Do I hate PETA? No, not really. I can't hate them, they're too fuzzy! Anyway...
1. One issue I have with them is the fanboy(girl)ism they attract. They attract a type of member that is in it for the "feel good" factor. These people have this warm, fuzzy feeling in the pit of their stomach when they think they're helping the poor animals. Yes, there's plenty of animals that need help, and the basis of their group is a good cause, but when you recruit mindless zombies of propoganda spewing zealots (kinda like religion 0_o) to hand out your propoganda, they're going to draw down some hate. Yes I realize this is rampant amongst many organizations, but that doesn't make it any less annoying for me.
2. The extremism just gets under my nipples. The destruction of private property irritates the crap out of me. I don't care how much money the individuals have or how much attention their going to get. It is wrong; end of story. You do not destroy other people's things. It is as much of a crime as the things they're trying to stop.
3. The insulin argument is actually a good one that you seem to play off with out giving any thought. My mother is type 1 diabetic. Here's some information on insulin in general as well as the current synthesis methods.
Oh my goodness! The poor bacteria plasmids! How could we not realize that they're using these horrible farms of bacteria to create insulin!? :cough: (tongue in cheek there) Many medical advances were first tested on animals to fine tune them for human consumption, if not derived directly from animals to begin with. If the members of PETA are so quick to demand a stop to animal testing, why not go straight to human testing? I have an idea! They can submit themselves first! That's how they can stop animal testing! :cough: Nature itself uses it's own genetic testing day to day. Natural selection anyone? The animal that has the best genetic code for it's environment is determined to be the dominant one. As far as I'm concerned, we're just helping it along. =P Which leads to my next point.
4. If they're really concerned about humans meddling with the lives of animals for their detriment, then they really need to round up every domesticated breed in existance and destroy them as soon as possible. We have bred so many genetic deformities, especially into dogs, that it's sickening. So many breeds have a high tendency to cancer, have faulty joints and have basic psychological disorders that are inherent to individual breeds. Round them all up, disallow anyone to have any more pets, since holding them against their will is evil, and destroy them to purify their genes. Only allow the wild specimines of each family (wolves, coyotes, foxes, dingos, etc...) to exist. Why not? Don't these genetic deformities cause suffering amongst the populations? Uh huh...
Conclusion (tl;dr) - PETA started with fantastic ideals. Their beginnings were in well founded logic with a hope to help living things that couldn't fight for themselves. They've lost that and turned into a group of shock inducing extremists who turn less people towards their way of thinking then they have against it. Many PETA supporters do so for the "feel good" aspect, instead of a true conviction for their beliefs. They are hypocritical on many things, such as using medications that were derived from animal testing. If they were so convicted in their beliefs, they would boycott these things. So no, I don't hate PETA, but I far from love them. There are many alternatives to what they do, such as leaving the damn pets with their loving families. My family and I love our dog damnit, and we personify her to an unhealthy degree. Let us enjoy her company and she enjoy ours. I can guarantee you, she doesn't know any better when she gets pat on the belly or gets a biscuit.
PETA is a cult-like, anti-human organization that puts down most of the animals it rescues, funds convicted criminals such as Rodney Coranado, and uses cheap shock tactics to put forth a dogma that makes little to no sense.
PETA is a cult-like, anti-human organization that puts down most of the animals it rescues, funds convicted criminals such as Rodney Coranado, and uses cheap shock tactics to put forth a dogma that makes little to no sense.
What part of "No", did you think meant... bugger it, can't think of anything funny. I'd just be quoting Dr Cox otherwise.
But seriously. No. I'm not saying another word. For one, I was banned because it was either me that got suspended, or the other twenty people against me. And for two, the reason I got suspended was because I called Kraken a dick. Sort of. The quote is probally in this thread somewhere. Point being, I got over the top and flamed him.
Please stop baiting me now. I feel I've angered the mods enough. I'm sure Labrynith just wants to ban me by simply seeing my name right now.
My personal hatred for PETA comes from their opposition of medical advancement as a whole. They claim medical tests on animals can't be made relevant to humans, which is a total load of bullshit. Their own Vice President uses Insulin treatments derived from experiments on dogs. Millions of people are alive today because of treatments that were tested on animals. Millions more are dying from potentially curable diseases, but PETA would oppose the research that is going into curing these people.
Not only do they just oppose this medical advancement, they support people who firebomb animal testing clinics (look up Rodney Coronado). PETA's President called Coronado, who was convicted of and confessed to multiple counts of Arson, a "fine young man."
PETA protests animal shelters, one of which I know they protested that had a 78% adoption rate. PETA itself only has an adoption rate in the 20%s, euthanizing all other animals they have, while protesting shelters who are much more successful and much more ethical.
The "Holocaust on Your Plate" campaign also offended me greatly. They compared the the raising and slaughter of poultry to the mass genocide of the Holocaust. That alone should piss off any reasonable person.
Let me be perfectly clear. I love animals. I was raised with pets, one of my best friends owned a pet store and I loved every one of those. I live in Wisconsin and have visited numerous farms, for horses, chickens, cows (both dairy and beef producing) and I realize exactly what goes into my chicken quesadillas. They love to show the horrors of bad meat packaging/producing plants and it is disgusting, horrifying footage, which is why pushing for reform is the proper avenue, as Upton Sinclair did.
Another side note, I love vegetarians and have nothing against them, but the second you begin pushing your views on someone else, you join my shit-list.
Unless the only possible way of expressing your opinion is angry zealotry, I see no reason for your reluctance. And if it is, this merely proves my point of PETA operating like a cult.
Unless the only possible way of expressing your opinion is angry zealotry, I see no reason for your reluctance. And if it is, this merely proves my point of PETA operating like a cult.
PETA (said: Peter), isn't that a name to send a shiver down your spine. Doesn't it make you so damn mad? Don't you just want to get a big ol' slab of beef and whack it into one of their thick skulls until they see that they are in fact all idiots?
Why?
Why is PETA such a detested group on these forums? I have never agrued either way, for or against them until yesterday. I decided, with such a hate for the group with little backing claims, I should go out and do some research on them.
The group have many agendas such as: factory farming, fur farming, animal testing, and animals in entertainment, and also campaigns against keeping dogs chained up in the backyard, cock, dog and bullfighting as well as fight against speciesism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciesism). These I can't argue against. These are all things that I would want abolished utterly!
I know people here would hate to see a cruelty against animals and would agree whole-heartedly with their missions, but are more quick to jump on their extremist behaviour.
Also, too many points have been taken too literally. The case of the human milk used instead of cows in ice-cream, it was all satire used to spread more awareness. To quote a member:
Escapian said:
Their intention was not for B&J to actually use human milk, but to bring attention that cow milk should only be used for baby cows, just like human milk should only be used for human babies. B&J felt for the trap, and so did you.
Many of PETA's promosions are generally not to be taken so literally as people do.
I do agree however that PETA are fanatics to their cause and extremists in behavious, but with goals like this, I can't see people here doing any more to better these goals.
Many people had claimed that they wish to make the world vegetarian. They probably do, but that is not their choice as only you have the power to control your own diet and eating behaviours; it is not theirs.
Though, in PETA's mission statement, found here:
http://www.peta.org/about/index.asp
It states that,
'PETA focuses its attention on the four areas in which the largest numbers of animals suffer the most intensely for the longest periods of time: on factory farms, in laboratories, in the clothing trade, and in the entertainment industry.'
I don't see them coming after your meat.
People also have claimed that they hurt themselves with extremist fanatic acts more then the help save animals. I would be inclined to disagree finding out, after a bit of research that they do a massive amount to help their cause:
http://www.peta.org/about/victories.asp
...with a look that could kill!
Going onto two years of being on this site, I have never witnessed such idiocy then that I saw on the 15th of July when a thread of PETA was made. The topic was a user being dumbfounded by a game that PETA had made and had set up a link. The following 16 pages of comments however barely touched on the subject, instead ending up in a massive wank about how PETA is nothing but the devil. Few people were actually able to make sense of what had happened and presented good arguments. The arguments in return were nothing but the same misinformed attacks that wee throughout the thread.
Man 2 said:
Man 1 said:
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That doesn't sound all to bad or evil now does it? So stop repeating things you half-heard somewhere and recheck your sources.
They must have changed it recently. Because as of last year their goals read that they were going to free animals entirely and that that included pets.
I'm not targeting this at one person or any person, nor am I saying it was the entire community, I?m just saying for some people to think before they start typing.
I'm really just ranting now and I don't want to. I just really want people to think before they act and stop following the crowd.
I'm not arguing to say that PETA is amazing and everyone should join, hell, I'm not trying to promote them, I just want people to have some sense before they put in their two cents.
And please, I really want this to be civil. I want actual fact and not anti-propaganda, nor do I want to see one line of text exclaiming how evil PETA is or how People should Eat Tasty Animals.
We had some person at our school, and she was die-hard PETA. She got really pissy when someone told her to shut the fuck up and whipped a tray of spaghetti across the room. The tray cam flying towards me and my friends. We all ducked, but that was fucking ridiculous.
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