So I beat Dragon Age: Ori- Wait what? Oh fuck you EA!

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WanderingFool

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Solo-Wing said:
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Seriously? This is the silliest BioWare rant I have ever seen. And that is really saying something.
Oh excuse me for wanting to finish the rest of the games quests and do more stuff with my character! I guess this is my punishment for only using Auto-saves!
I would say that that is your punishment for only using auto-saves, but it looks like it has already been said.

But really, what more would you have done? Those few side quests that you decided to not finish pre end game? Thats a pretty flimsy reason for completely hating DA:O.

If the complaint was for a game like Oblivion or Skyrim (I personally havent beat skyrim's main questline yet, so I dont know for sure), where after you beat the game and you didnt get to continue to interact with the world, yeah, that would suck...

*Looks at FO3 pre-Broken Steel*

But for a RPG like DA:O, its a largely lineir story-driven game, so when the end game comes, its the end, period.

Dont like it? Dont beat the game yet...
 

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I would be more upset that some of the DLC is important to the god damned Dragon Age storyline!!!!! Awakening anyone?! Or how about Witch Hunt, if they actually do anything with that storyline instead of just letting it sit there? And then there's Dragon Age 2 with Sabastian ripped from the game to be sold as DLC without removing all traces of his dialog from the main release! At least have the decency to cover your tracks when you blatantly rip off your customers!
 

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Its not an open-world game, when the main quest is over its over. So... yeah.

It just lets you play the DLC from there, its hardly pushing it down your throat. (And its just as well they do that, considering you were relying on autosaves. In a 50+ hour RPG!)

wintercoat said:
I would be more upset that some of the DLC is important to the god damned Dragon Age storyline!!!!! Awakening anyone?! Or how about Witch Hunt, if they actually do anything with that storyline instead of just letting it sit there? And then there's Dragon Age 2 with Sabastian ripped from the game to be sold as DLC without removing all traces of his dialog from the main release! At least have the decency to cover your tracks when you blatantly rip off your customers!
Neither are vital to the storyline. Origins' storyline is completely wrapped up - simply adding info about Morrigan does not make it vital.

And Awakening is a full-blown expansion pack - I think its about time we reclaimed that phrase and stopped lumping it in with DLC.
 

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Now it has been a significant amount of time since I played this, but doesn't the game itself tell you that once you go into the landsmeet, there is no going back? It isn't just about not having post game content (sidequests and so fourth) but the entire final third of the game becomes pretty much linear. Once you hit the landsmeet there are changes to the world that cant be gone back on.

So basically, what you're asking for is to go back almost a third of the games play-time. Like so many other people have said, next time, save manually. Why wouldn't you do that anyway?
 

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Blood Brain Barrier said:
poiumty said:
Solo-Wing said:
burningdragoon said:
Seriously? This is the silliest BioWare rant I have ever seen. And that is really saying something.
Oh excuse me for wanting to finish the rest of the games quests and do more stuff with my character! I guess this is my punishment for only using Auto-saves!
Why yes. Yes it is. What the hell were you thinking?

Never rely only on auto-saves again. They're safety measures, not your personal checkpoints. Hopefully next time you'll learn your lesson.
If you're a console player, auto-saves are all that exist. Sadly.
No...they aren't. Why would you think that?
 

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Solo-Wing said:
So I just beat Dragon age Origins. Alistair is the new king. Morrigan disappeared with my yet to be born son, and the ending was just dandy. Now lets see what kind of End game content there is :D

Hmmm... I am at the camp. Huh all of the quests I did not finish are gone from my Quest list except for the ones asking me to buy DLC.... And I can't travel the world map anymore!? Oh fuck you EA!

So appearently there is NO post-game content! The game takes everything away and asks you to buy DLC is you want to do ANYTHING.

Where do you get off EA!? Or maybe Bio-ware? No... I am certain EA was the ones that green-lite and forced this idea. I mean how else were they gonna milk their customers out of their money?

So anyways I was enjoying DA:O... But now I think it is a horrible bloody game for this stunt.

I might have bought some DLC, but then they went and took everything that made the game good away in order to push their DLC.

I am never touching this game again.

Have you guys ever came across a company pushing it's DLC as much before?
You realise that the reason all your quests are taken away and there is no real end-game content is because of the very likely event that your character dies in the final fight?

I mean, mine did.

It's not so they can peddle their DLC on you, that's what the story-breaking camp NPC is for. Surely you noiced him?
 

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Blood Brain Barrier said:
If you're a console player, auto-saves are all that exist. Sadly.
I played Dragon Age: Origins on a Xbox 360 and ended up with about 30 manual saves plus a few auto.

Your statement is confussling.
 
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Why would you rely on auto-saves? I mean, I may be a special case since I save every five seconds (an old habit I picked up when playing Far Cry), but still, you should do some manual saves often in games like this.

DustyDrB said:
Yureina said:
Welcome to EA/Bioware games. Isn't it fun?

Aside from ME2, which I liked too much, i've never fell for this little scheme of theirs. But never again I say. They are dead to me now. :eek:
Scheme? When the story ends, it ends. I see no scheme.
When Origins (and ME2, and DA2) where it ends, puts you in a small place (camp in DA:O, house in DA2) or the galaxy in ME2, and tells you to watch out for DLC.

She's probably referring to that.

Basically, it gives off the idea that there might be a bit more to do, but there isn't. Which feels kind of odd.
 

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This is seriously the single most stupid EA rant i have ever seen... As it has been said above playing an RPG and relying on auto-save is just asking for trouble.
Also dont know if you catched the big hints EVERY MAJOR NPC SAYS THAT YOU SHOULD FINISH EVERYTHING BEFORE GOING TO DENERIM FOR THE FINAL BATTLE!

Next think you'll say is that you play Elder Scroll and Fallout games with one save slot... Its just wrong


Then again it wouldnt make much sense for the Lord Commander of The Grey bloody Warderns to be runninng around gathering people knickers or what not.

And last but not least you could always start again with a new character and origin. It is called Origins as in plural. Be a dwarf those guys are fun or a fireball tossing naked elf chick.
 

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Irridium said:
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Why would you rely on auto-saves? I mean, I may be a special case since I save every five seconds (an old habit I picked up when playing Far Cry), but still, you should do some manual saves often in games like this.

DustyDrB said:
Yureina said:
Welcome to EA/Bioware games. Isn't it fun?

Aside from ME2, which I liked too much, i've never fell for this little scheme of theirs. But never again I say. They are dead to me now. :eek:
Scheme? When the story ends, it ends. I see no scheme.
When Origins (and ME2, and DA2) where it ends, puts you in a small place (camp in DA:O, house in DA2) or the galaxy in ME2, and tells you to watch out for DLC.

She's probably referring to that.

Basically, it gives off the idea that there might be a bit more to do, but there isn't. Which feels kind of odd.
Ohhh, ok. I thought she was just thinking that no post-game content was a scheme. I guess I never really noticed because I don't finish the main story in those games until I've done almost everything. And when DLC does come out, I just start the game over entirely.
 

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Irridium said:
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Why would you rely on auto-saves? I mean, I may be a special case since I save every five seconds (an old habit I picked up when playing Far Cry), but still, you should do some manual saves often in games like this.

DustyDrB said:
Yureina said:
Welcome to EA/Bioware games. Isn't it fun?

Aside from ME2, which I liked too much, i've never fell for this little scheme of theirs. But never again I say. They are dead to me now. :eek:
Scheme? When the story ends, it ends. I see no scheme.
When Origins (and ME2, and DA2) where it ends, puts you in a small place (camp in DA:O, house in DA2) or the galaxy in ME2, and tells you to watch out for DLC.

She's probably referring to that.

Basically, it gives off the idea that there might be a bit more to do, but there isn't. Which feels kind of odd.
From what i recall if you didnt play The Wardens Keep before the final battle you could do it after the story ends.

EDIT : Also to complete my previous post you can also pick up the expansion pack which is about 20~25 hours of additional content with your old character.
 

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Frankly seems kinda silly to finish the game, then complain that you've finished the game... sure some games, big open worldy types, let you carry on doing random shit once you've finished the story but DA:O was a story game, once the story is finished there isn't anything left for your characters to do save the DLC. If you wanted to finish your side quests you should have done them before taking on the final level and saving the world. Yeah the way they push the DLC in DA:O is a bit shit the guy in your camp was really annoying but its not like you had to go and talk to him.
 

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Solo-Wing said:
So appearently there is NO post-game content!
There isn't in Mass effect, there isn't in Fallout 3 or Fallout New Vegas, infact there's alot of game that when you've finish the main story line you've finished the game.

Solo-Wing said:
I am never touching this game again.
I'm sure the games gutted to hear that.
 

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Start a new game or think before you rid yourself of saves before the endgame.

This is pretty much a rule to every RPG.
 

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Solo-Wing said:
So I just beat Dragon age Origins. Alistair is the new king. Morrigan disappeared with my yet to be born son, and the ending was just dandy. Now lets see what kind of End game content there is :D

Hmmm... I am at the camp. Huh all of the quests I did not finish are gone from my Quest list except for the ones asking me to buy DLC.... And I can't travel the world map anymore!? Oh fuck you EA!

So appearently there is NO post-game content! The game takes everything away and asks you to buy DLC is you want to do ANYTHING.

Where do you get off EA!? Or maybe Bio-ware? No... I am certain EA was the ones that green-lite and forced this idea. I mean how else were they gonna milk their customers out of their money?

So anyways I was enjoying DA:O... But now I think it is a horrible bloody game for this stunt.

I might have bought some DLC, but then they went and took everything that made the game good away in order to push their DLC.

I am never touching this game again.

Have you guys ever came across a company pushing it's DLC as much before?
I find your post tangentially hilarious, since in another, people were complaining that Bioware stopped being good, since EA became involved, and when the issue of Dragon Age:O came up, it was immediately assumed by some people that it was good only because Bioware worked on it alone before being acquired by EA.

Disclaimer: I dislike EAs business practices, and find them to be a company of ill repute, and for supporting SOPA, I wish them the worst possible outcomes in the Market.
 

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DustyDrB said:
Blood Brain Barrier said:
poiumty said:
Solo-Wing said:
Never rely only on auto-saves again. They're safety measures, not your personal checkpoints. Hopefully next time you'll learn your lesson.
If you're a console player, auto-saves are all that exist. Sadly.
No...they aren't. Why would you think that?
I've never played a console game where I've been able to go to a menu and choose a save game slot. It's always been reach this checkpoint or get past this monster and it automatically saves. Then again, I haven't played a console for about 8 years.
 

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Woodsey said:
...Didn't you get banned?
OT: Yeah, pretty sure that there were various NPCs practically shouting at you that "THIS IS THE FINAL BATTLE. POINT OF NO RETURN. JUST SAYIN'."
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but you got this game recently, no? Why didn't you just get the Ultimate edition? Only slightly pricier with all the content!
 

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Blood Brain Barrier said:
DustyDrB said:
Blood Brain Barrier said:
poiumty said:
Solo-Wing said:
Never rely only on auto-saves again. They're safety measures, not your personal checkpoints. Hopefully next time you'll learn your lesson.
If you're a console player, auto-saves are all that exist. Sadly.
No...they aren't. Why would you think that?
I've never played a console game where I've been able to go to a menu and choose a save game slot. It's always been reach this checkpoint or get past this monster and it automatically saves. Then again, I haven't played a console for about 8 years.
If so, then you have had a very confusing console experience.

Manual saving in RPGs on consoles existed long before 2004. I suggest you look at the menus a bit harder next time.