So I Find Myself Discussing Virginity Again

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wench

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e2density said:
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age 7 no joke
Yeah, there are always the mentally strange people that are just born horny...Quagmire.

But I plan on abstinence. Fifteen minutes of fun is not worth a lifetime of syphilis.
You do realize that syphilis is curable now, right? Like, with penicillin. Yeah - still not fun, but it's hardly the death sentence it was during, say, the dark ages. Modern medicine, eh?
 

SimuLord

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I lost mine at 17. To put a girl of 14 in a position where she's seeking her first sexual encounter can have a few different effects on the reader:

1) The girl was poorly raised and is of poor moral character;
2) She's a child who desperately wants to be "adult" and sees sex as a means to that end
3) She was neglected and wants a baby of her own so someone will love her unconditionally
4) The culture in which she grows up is hypersexualized.

To most readers a 14-year-old is a child. To write her as a budding adult can easily run up against suspension of disbelief. You write for your audience, and the audience has expectations that need to be met in order for the writing to be considered effective.

It's not until you're very well-known and renowned that you can plausibly start to "write things for me first and hope someone likes them" as an author attitude.
 

elricik

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I lost mine at 16, but thought about doing the naughty all the time around 13, ahhhhh memories. (It was only three years ago. But seems like way longer.)
I don't think its unreasonable for a girl to think about having sex at 14, in fact I think a lot of girls actually do, regardless of society's opinion. Do I think its right? It depends, is he using a condom? (like I did), and is she on birth control? (Like my partner was.) If the answer to both is yes, and you really do love each other, then I don't really see a problem.
 

Firia

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eeeh, I lost mine pretty early. It was awkwardly preformed, and hardly even considered sex by anyones standards. It kinda just happened though. Coincidently, I learned alot about my prefered sexuality that night.
 

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ive heard stories of chicks in my school losin it to 20 somethings when they were 13, promise i aint lying. so a story about a girl losing hers at 14 is too surprising to me.
 
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MelasZepheos said:
In a discussion regarding a situation in a novel I recently finished, my Creative Writing seminar group told me they thought that 14 and a half was too young for a girl to believably want to lose her virginity.
Juliet (Of Billie Shakespear's play) was 14 when she pledged her life to her young consort.
Pocahontas was tenne (sic) years old when John Smith consumated their love.
Children as young as four years old have an "interest" in their genetalia and that of others.

As always, it depends on necessity, mindset and situation. If your character sees a way out of a dangerous situation by faking lust, then they'll do it. Equally, they could remain a virgin until they die.
 

Lexodus

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The big introduction to it in schools begins at 11, even if they've heard a little beforehand and talked on the playground.
 

manythings

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Time Warp said:
manythings said:
Time Warp said:
manythings said:
I have always believed there is a strong sense that it isn't wanting to lose your virginity young, it's having. The tribe mentality thing that scares girls (lets face it only girls think twice about sex) into doing it. Not conforming to the hive retard means being ostracised.

On topic 16-17 I guess but only if they aren't fuck wits.
Every argument ever comes down to two or more "hive retard". Those who don't conform, in a way, conform, but simply to an alternative hive retard.

In my opinion, any age is okay. Why should I make rules for others? Or even care to think about it? If someone wants to fuck someone else, it's their own problem and whether they get into trouble for it or not is their own problem, too. I'd be, haha, oh the irony, "conforming to the hive retard" if I was trying to push my values on them. If you think you want to do something, just do it. Want to kill yourself? Fine, do it - it's your own life to take, and all others who might disagree and claim that you're selfish are only reflecting upon themselves.
How cleverly ironic, you turned my statement against me proving you think human free will isn't a up there with santa among the other things we made up to feel better about ourselves.

Let me pose a puzzler;

Guy A is drinking himself to death, Guy B takes the drunks booze away and forces him in to rehab etc., Was Guy B right for violating Guy A's choice to drink himself to death?

The reason for enforcing certain groups of rule, astonishingly, is that they try to REDUCE the downward spiral of humanity.
What you call a downward spiral is entirely subjective.

Say, certain fundamental religious groups might say that acceptance of gays is a "downward spiral". Which I'd hope you'd disagree with. Now look at yourself. What makes you say that they're wrong? Or, in that rare potential scenario, what makes you say that they're right?
See this is another problem because I think children fucking and having kids (Yes they're children, they're stupid, they will end up pregnant for these two reasons) I'm somehow the guy swinging the end is nigh placard and pissing on peoples shoes while stinking up your chosen method of public transport.

Over population, crippling food shortages, towering unemployment, schools crammed so full no one ever learns, an eternally droppping standard of basic human leaving space and the never ending ascension of the elite. These are my downward spiral and fuck me, THEY ARE HAPPENING.
 

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I started thinking about it at around 14, but my conclusion was that the only use was for procreation, which I want to put off until my thirties at the earliest.
 

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Eponet said:
I started thinking about it at around 14, but my conclusion was that the only use was for procreation, which I want to put off until my thirties at the earliest.
You're missing barrels of fun, mate.

At least, that's what I think. Sex for me is just sating that primal lust, and boy does it feel good. Children, especially babies, on the other hand, are disgusting and take too much effort. Shoo with them, I say.

Of course you'll disagree, but I'm still the far superior specimen.
 

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MelasZepheos said:
It's irritating, but I'm starting to actually get interested in the subject. (Search bar approved)

In a discussion regarding a situation in a novel I recently finished, my Creative Writing seminar group told me they thought that 14 and a half was too young for a girl to believably want to lose her virginity.

Everyone in my seminar group is an upper-middle class prude making their way through university on daddy's money though, so I take their opinions lightly.

What age do you think teenagers honestly start thinking about having sex, and if they had the opportunity, what age would they start having sex (this is mainly hypothetical, I don't need a long list of the ages of consent etc, and please try and keep it clean.)
Well, it's clear they've never been to a school. Obviously, it depends on the individual, but I've heard stories of girls wanting it at twelve years old. Most virgins are from the ages of 16- 21 (or was that twenty five?)

I say it's very, very believable in today's world that a fourteen year old would want to lose her virginity, especially with the way sex is publicized these days.
 

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MelasZepheos said:
What age do you think teenagers honestly start thinking about having sex, and if they had the opportunity, what age would they start having sex.
Its definitely different for each person. I know I wasn't particularly interested until a relatively late age. Partially because of going to an all boys school (until university!) and partially because I just wasn't surrounded by many people my age who were.

Believably, post-puberty is easy to accept. I know my girlfriend said that she wanted it from 13 (wait....) but waited until 16/17.

I like the 16 boundary in the UK. I think most people by then are going to be ready and its not so high as to be unrealistic (seriously, 18?, wtf US?). I also think that as long as the two people are of relative similar age and experience, as well as both being un-toxicated and without pressure - then I'm not too bothered.