So, I'm dating my cousin now... Yeah...

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BlackWidower

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Sacman said:
Edit: let's get something straight Her Grandmother was the 3rd cousin of my grandfather but was adopted by my great grandparents at a young age and from that point had a daughter than her daughter had a daughter...
E-uh...wait...I just noticed something...hold on.

*math the verb*

Oh shit. Hold on! So by blood she is your fifth cousin, but technically she's your second cousin because her grandmother was adopted by your great grandparents.

Is that right?

If so I was lying when I said fifth cousin through adoption. Shit.

DAMN YOU SEMANTICS!!!

*fist shake*
 

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I've had sex with my sister, kind of, not intercourse, but certainly sexual.
I was around 16 and she was around 15, during summer vacation, we were watching a movie late at night and it kinda went from there.

So, I guess if it feels good, do it.
Uh...You know I've heard of stories like that. Honest question, did you grow up in different households?
No, but our parents divorced when I was 10 and she did spend a lot longer with my father than I did, if that has anything to do with it.
No, I'm thinking of the Westermarck effect, which typically counteracts Genetic Sexual Attraction. It's a visceral "yuck" feeling one would typically get in that scenario, due to the fact that you two grew up together. Also applies to those who are adopted.

Okay, from a purely intellectual standpoint I kinda want more information. You said sexual, not intercourse, so what? Oral?

What about the aftermath? Were things weird between you two?

If you don't want to share I understand. I'm just curious.

NB: Don't get the wrong idea, my curiosity is purely intellectual. I know with topics like this you might presume my motivations are more prurient. I swear they're not. I find odd stuff like this fascinating. Especially as a writer of fiction.
I'm not too sure why we don't have that "yuck" feeling you mentioned towards each other, I have it towards my mother and my aunt and such. Maybe it's because my family is rather eccentric and never really fits in well, we're all vegetarians and think most of the world's population are hilariously stupid. So maybe it was because we see everyone else as so different to us, that it seemed like she was the only person compatible with me and vice versa. And that she was around my age.
I'm not too sure, the only thing I don't like about the whole experience is that my family might find out and might take it a bit too seriously.

And it was just a lot of foreplay and about 30 seconds of hand-based sex. At least, it seemed like 30 seconds.


It wasn't awkward or anything after, for the first few days it was a bit strange talking to her and such, but things fairly quickly went back to normal.
Like if you have a large argument with someone in your household, it's a bit awkward for the first day or so but then you kind of brush it off and forget about it.

She is a little suggestive now though, so I guess it strengthened our relationship (Family-based relationship, that is). I'd rather not go through with it again though, in the same house as my family anyway. I'm still attracted to her, but I think the whole stigma is stopping anything. But if I knew she would be willing to stay with me if the whole family knew and highly disagreed with it, I'd gladly date her. I'd be sure to prevent any child being born though. Which as long as you do that, there's nothing morally incorrect going on, is there?
 

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It sounds like she's a pretty distant cousin, and even if shes not it doesnt matter much. you like someone you like someone. We're all probably related anyway considering we evolved from the same species. But ya, go for it, the right persons the right person
 

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Crash 9000 said:
BlackWidower said:
Crash 9000 said:
BlackWidower said:
Crash 9000 said:
I've had sex with my sister, kind of, not intercourse, but certainly sexual.
I was around 16 and she was around 15, during summer vacation, we were watching a movie late at night and it kinda went from there.

So, I guess if it feels good, do it.
Uh...You know I've heard of stories like that. Honest question, did you grow up in different households?
No, but our parents divorced when I was 10 and she did spend a lot longer with my father than I did, if that has anything to do with it.
No, I'm thinking of the Westermarck effect, which typically counteracts Genetic Sexual Attraction. It's a visceral "yuck" feeling one would typically get in that scenario, due to the fact that you two grew up together. Also applies to those who are adopted.

Okay, from a purely intellectual standpoint I kinda want more information. You said sexual, not intercourse, so what? Oral?

What about the aftermath? Were things weird between you two?

If you don't want to share I understand. I'm just curious.

NB: Don't get the wrong idea, my curiosity is purely intellectual. I know with topics like this you might presume my motivations are more prurient. I swear they're not. I find odd stuff like this fascinating. Especially as a writer of fiction.
I'm not too sure why we don't have that "yuck" feeling you mentioned towards each other, I have it towards my mother and my aunt and such. Maybe it's because my family is rather eccentric and never really fits in well, we're all vegetarians and think most of the world's population are hilariously stupid. So maybe it was because we see everyone else as so different to us, that it seemed like she was the only person compatible with me and vice versa. And that she was around my age.
I'm not too sure, the only thing I don't like about the whole experience is that my family might find out and might take it a bit too seriously.

And it was just a lot of foreplay and about 30 seconds of hand-based sex. At least, it seemed like 30 seconds.


It wasn't awkward or anything after, for the first few days it was a bit strange talking to her and such, but things fairly quickly went back to normal.
Like if you have a large argument with someone in your household, it's a bit awkward for the first day or so but then you kind of brush it off and forget about it.

She is a little suggestive now though, so I guess it strengthened our relationship (Family-based relationship, that is). I'd rather not go through with it again though, in the same house as my family anyway. I'm still attracted to her, but I think the whole stigma is stopping anything. But if I knew she would be willing to stay with me if the whole family knew and highly disagreed with it, I'd gladly date her. I'd be sure to prevent any child being born though. Which as long as you do that, there's nothing morally incorrect going on, is there?
I think most of the planet is stupid as well, and I was a vegetarian for 2.5 years and I never did my sister...then again I don't have a sister...at least I don't think I do...

Anyway, it depends, if your morality is based on an arbitrary book of rules written 2000 years ago, then there is a problem. But I don't agree with that.

It's tough. Though you must know most countries in the world do look down on that sort of thing.

France isn't one of them, and according to this piece, neither is the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Belgium, Portugal, Turkey, Japan, Argentina or Brazil. [http://www.cognitionandculture.net/Olivier-s-blog/incest-in-france.html]

In the United States, Rhode Island has no criminal statute, Ohio only targets parents, and New Jersey has no statute at all for those oven the age of 18. At least, according to Wikipedia.

It seems a little messed up...from the outside looking in. Though I gotta think, the Westermarck effect should have kicked in for you two. If it didn't it might have meant you two didn't spend much time together as kids. Or maybe the Westermarck effect is bullshit and it tends to be society doing the shunning.

By the way, where are you from?
 

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BlackWidower said:
Crash 9000 said:
BlackWidower said:
Crash 9000 said:
BlackWidower said:
Crash 9000 said:
I've had sex with my sister, kind of, not intercourse, but certainly sexual.
I was around 16 and she was around 15, during summer vacation, we were watching a movie late at night and it kinda went from there.

So, I guess if it feels good, do it.
Uh...You know I've heard of stories like that. Honest question, did you grow up in different households?
No, but our parents divorced when I was 10 and she did spend a lot longer with my father than I did, if that has anything to do with it.
No, I'm thinking of the Westermarck effect, which typically counteracts Genetic Sexual Attraction. It's a visceral "yuck" feeling one would typically get in that scenario, due to the fact that you two grew up together. Also applies to those who are adopted.

Okay, from a purely intellectual standpoint I kinda want more information. You said sexual, not intercourse, so what? Oral?

What about the aftermath? Were things weird between you two?

If you don't want to share I understand. I'm just curious.

NB: Don't get the wrong idea, my curiosity is purely intellectual. I know with topics like this you might presume my motivations are more prurient. I swear they're not. I find odd stuff like this fascinating. Especially as a writer of fiction.
I'm not too sure why we don't have that "yuck" feeling you mentioned towards each other, I have it towards my mother and my aunt and such. Maybe it's because my family is rather eccentric and never really fits in well, we're all vegetarians and think most of the world's population are hilariously stupid. So maybe it was because we see everyone else as so different to us, that it seemed like she was the only person compatible with me and vice versa. And that she was around my age.
I'm not too sure, the only thing I don't like about the whole experience is that my family might find out and might take it a bit too seriously.

And it was just a lot of foreplay and about 30 seconds of hand-based sex. At least, it seemed like 30 seconds.


It wasn't awkward or anything after, for the first few days it was a bit strange talking to her and such, but things fairly quickly went back to normal.
Like if you have a large argument with someone in your household, it's a bit awkward for the first day or so but then you kind of brush it off and forget about it.

She is a little suggestive now though, so I guess it strengthened our relationship (Family-based relationship, that is). I'd rather not go through with it again though, in the same house as my family anyway. I'm still attracted to her, but I think the whole stigma is stopping anything. But if I knew she would be willing to stay with me if the whole family knew and highly disagreed with it, I'd gladly date her. I'd be sure to prevent any child being born though. Which as long as you do that, there's nothing morally incorrect going on, is there?
I think most of the planet is stupid as well, and I was a vegetarian for 2.5 years and I never did my sister...then again I don't have a sister...at least I don't think I do...

Anyway, it depends, if your morality is based on an arbitrary book of rules written 2000 years ago, then there is a problem. But I don't agree with that.

It's tough. Though you must know most countries in the world do look down on that sort of thing.

France isn't one of them, and according to this piece, neither is the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Belgium, Portugal, Turkey, Japan, Argentina or Brazil. [http://www.cognitionandculture.net/Olivier-s-blog/incest-in-france.html]

In the United States, Rhode Island has no criminal statute, Ohio only targets parents, and New Jersey has no statute at all for those oven the age of 18. At least, according to Wikipedia.

It seems a little messed up...from the outside looking in. Though I gotta think, the Westermarck effect should have kicked in for you two. If it didn't it might have meant you two didn't spend much time together as kids. Or maybe the Westermarck effect is bullshit and it tends to be society doing the shunning.

By the way, where are you from?
England.
 

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Crash 9000 said:
BlackWidower said:
Crash 9000 said:
BlackWidower said:
Crash 9000 said:
BlackWidower said:
Crash 9000 said:
I've had sex with my sister, kind of, not intercourse, but certainly sexual.
I was around 16 and she was around 15, during summer vacation, we were watching a movie late at night and it kinda went from there.

So, I guess if it feels good, do it.
Uh...You know I've heard of stories like that. Honest question, did you grow up in different households?
No, but our parents divorced when I was 10 and she did spend a lot longer with my father than I did, if that has anything to do with it.
No, I'm thinking of the Westermarck effect, which typically counteracts Genetic Sexual Attraction. It's a visceral "yuck" feeling one would typically get in that scenario, due to the fact that you two grew up together. Also applies to those who are adopted.

Okay, from a purely intellectual standpoint I kinda want more information. You said sexual, not intercourse, so what? Oral?

What about the aftermath? Were things weird between you two?

If you don't want to share I understand. I'm just curious.

NB: Don't get the wrong idea, my curiosity is purely intellectual. I know with topics like this you might presume my motivations are more prurient. I swear they're not. I find odd stuff like this fascinating. Especially as a writer of fiction.
I'm not too sure why we don't have that "yuck" feeling you mentioned towards each other, I have it towards my mother and my aunt and such. Maybe it's because my family is rather eccentric and never really fits in well, we're all vegetarians and think most of the world's population are hilariously stupid. So maybe it was because we see everyone else as so different to us, that it seemed like she was the only person compatible with me and vice versa. And that she was around my age.
I'm not too sure, the only thing I don't like about the whole experience is that my family might find out and might take it a bit too seriously.

And it was just a lot of foreplay and about 30 seconds of hand-based sex. At least, it seemed like 30 seconds.


It wasn't awkward or anything after, for the first few days it was a bit strange talking to her and such, but things fairly quickly went back to normal.
Like if you have a large argument with someone in your household, it's a bit awkward for the first day or so but then you kind of brush it off and forget about it.

She is a little suggestive now though, so I guess it strengthened our relationship (Family-based relationship, that is). I'd rather not go through with it again though, in the same house as my family anyway. I'm still attracted to her, but I think the whole stigma is stopping anything. But if I knew she would be willing to stay with me if the whole family knew and highly disagreed with it, I'd gladly date her. I'd be sure to prevent any child being born though. Which as long as you do that, there's nothing morally incorrect going on, is there?
I think most of the planet is stupid as well, and I was a vegetarian for 2.5 years and I never did my sister...then again I don't have a sister...at least I don't think I do...

Anyway, it depends, if your morality is based on an arbitrary book of rules written 2000 years ago, then there is a problem. But I don't agree with that.

It's tough. Though you must know most countries in the world do look down on that sort of thing.

France isn't one of them, and according to this piece, neither is the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Belgium, Portugal, Turkey, Japan, Argentina or Brazil. [http://www.cognitionandculture.net/Olivier-s-blog/incest-in-france.html]

In the United States, Rhode Island has no criminal statute, Ohio only targets parents, and New Jersey has no statute at all for those oven the age of 18. At least, according to Wikipedia.

It seems a little messed up...from the outside looking in. Though I gotta think, the Westermarck effect should have kicked in for you two. If it didn't it might have meant you two didn't spend much time together as kids. Or maybe the Westermarck effect is bullshit and it tends to be society doing the shunning.

By the way, where are you from?
England.
Huh, well I suggest you be careful, especially considering this story from your neighboring Scotland.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=4794148
 

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It's legal in Colorado too.

I've been in more than one relationship that at least one family member didn't approve of, and I'm currently in one that my mom barely approves of (since it means I'll be moving far away).

If your family doesn't approve, well, you can't force them to. If you two are happy, then that's what matters. :) I hope it works out for you, my friend.
Good sir, that you are applying a good, albeit somewhat cliche maxim of "love who you love no matter what other people say" to a relationship with one's relative most honestly horrifies me.

There are times when parents and/or in-laws in a relationship need to realize that they don't have any right telling their beloved what to do or anything remotely resembling an understanding of who they are. Every romantic comedy ever made has at least one situation like this, this is neither a situation of that manner nor a romantic comedy, good day to you.

As for the OP, I apologize as it is somewhat of an unspoken social convention that one is to support nearly any romance and are even more obligated to do so if it is discovered that family members disapprove of the relationship. This is a situation where I absolutely must ask if you've honestly considered that your family members might be right in this case. I haven't the faintest idea what justifications you tell yourself but I do ask that simple question.
 

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Crash 9000 said:
BlackWidower said:
I'm not too sure why we don't have that "yuck" feeling you mentioned towards each other, I have it towards my mother and my aunt and such. Maybe it's because my family is rather eccentric and never really fits in well, we're all vegetarians and think most of the world's population are hilariously stupid. So maybe it was because we see everyone else as so different to us, that it seemed like she was the only person compatible with me and vice versa. And that she was around my age.
I'm not too sure, the only thing I don't like about the whole experience is that my family might find out and might take it a bit too seriously.

And it was just a lot of foreplay and about 30 seconds of hand-based sex. At least, it seemed like 30 seconds.


It wasn't awkward or anything after, for the first few days it was a bit strange talking to her and such, but things fairly quickly went back to normal.
Like if you have a large argument with someone in your household, it's a bit awkward for the first day or so but then you kind of brush it off and forget about it.

She is a little suggestive now though, so I guess it strengthened our relationship (Family-based relationship, that is). I'd rather not go through with it again though, in the same house as my family anyway. I'm still attracted to her, but I think the whole stigma is stopping anything. But if I knew she would be willing to stay with me if the whole family knew and highly disagreed with it, I'd gladly date her. I'd be sure to prevent any child being born though. Which as long as you do that, there's nothing morally incorrect going on, is there?
Just want to wish you luck with this. A lot of poeple forget that we are all related somehow, it is impossible to be with someone you are not related to, even if it is 100th generation cousins.