So, MLP season 3 is finally over. What are your thoughts on the season?

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xplosive59 said:
Lazy said:
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- Twilight's transformation felt so forced, the plot of the episode felt like a filler episode with a huge pay-off instead of a legitimate challenge with a suitable reward. It's like playing an RPG and an NPC tells you to "go kill some bandits" and when you do it the guy says "Here is the best sword in the game and a huge mansion, also you are omniscient".
I love it when someone says exactly what I'm trying to say but better. It just feels unearned. I mean, honestly, that was Twilight's big test? The whole cutie mark dilemma seems like average episode stuff to me.
If they had split the episode into a two parter and had a better and more realistic transition into the transformation then I would not have this problem, the fact that there were so many songs also meant there was a lack of story progression for the most part and that time could of been used better.

Also, everything seemed derelict e.g. the farm and the dress shop yet it had only been a few hours, no way could of that much damage been caused in that ammount of time!

Also...

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V da Mighty Taco said:
Loop Stricken said:
Oh, needed more Pinkamena Diane Pie too.
Pink pony is best pony. XD

Anyways, long story short - I really liked the episode, even though it has quite a few problems. However, my main concern that the show could become "The Twilight Sparkle Show" still stands. I don't like seeing the rest of the Mane 6 reduced to side characters for Twi's story too often, yet the two previous two-parters and to an extent this episode were all just that. They were more focused on in this episode, fortunately, but it's still in the end all about Twi. As much as I like Twilight, she's only one reason out of six that bronies in general watch the show. If it wasn't for the mixed writing quality of S2 and S3 along with those two-parters' emphasis on Twilight alone, I would probably not have an issue with Twilicorn. But with those in mind, I can't help but still be concerned a bit, even if this ep being surprisingly good and Amy Roger's returned has made me calm down a fair bit about it all.
Yyyyyyyyes, but it's like being unable to admit that Stargate SG-1 was basically the Daniel Jackson and Friends show for several seasons.
HOW many times has he saved the fkken universe, died, and resurrected now?
 

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I didn't like the finale. When it ended, my cousin and I immediately said "what?" in unison. It was way too short, but that's been the same with many episodes this season. Also, by the 3rd song, I was starting to get annoyed by them.
In total, it was still an alright episode. The parts about the cutie marks being switched was good, but the coronation was rushed as all hell. I think this may take the "worst episode of the season" trophy for me.
But... Bring on season 4! :D
 

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The final episode was rushed, terribly written, and an excellent example of corporate greed ruining a decent tv show. The songs are forgettable and there's no buffer time between them to even allow them to sink in.

The season was okay. Just okay.

I'm just so disgusted by how many people lap up the season finale despite its shitty everything.
 

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I didn't like the finale. When it ended, my cousin and I immediately said "what?" in unison. It was way too short, but that's been the same with many episodes this season. Also, by the 3rd song, I was starting to get annoyed by them.
In total, it was still an alright episode. The parts about the cutie marks being switched was good, but the coronation was rushed as all hell. I think this may take the "worst episode of the season" trophy for me.
But... Bring on season 4! :D
Pretty much this as well. It was the typical producer/publisher logic: People like the pony songs? LET'S GIVE THEM SO MUCH MORE PONY SONGS! SO. MUCH! MOAAAAAR!!!!!!

It was a double whammy for me because I didn't know that this was the season finale. I thought "switched cutie marks? How nice, looks like another lesson for the cuite mark crusaders" then it all gets resolved ten minutes in and I'm like... wait what? then suddenly, LASER BEAMS and WINGS! and I'm like... wait WAT?!

Frankly, it's not only the worst episode this season. It's the worst episode. PERIOD. No episode felt this rushed and badly paced (the discord episode aside but at least that one was fun in general and had friggin discord) and anti-climactic as "Princess Twilight".

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ONTO SEASON FOUR!!!!!
 

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Leemaster777 said:
(Note: This topic WILL contain spoilers for the final episode. You have been warned.)

(Note 2: If you're only entering this topic to hate on MLP, turn around right now. Trying to have a legitimate discussion here.)


So, with Season 3, arguably the most controversial season for the show yet, out of the way, let us take a moment to reflect. What's your opinion on this season? Good? Bad? Indifferent?

Personally, if I had to sum up the season in a single word, it would be "mixed". Now, don't get me wrong, there are PLENTY of good episodes this season. "Too Many Pinkie Pies", "Magic Duel", and "Sleepless in Ponyville" being standout great episodes. But then again, there are a few episodes I would charitably describe as being... lackluster. "One Bad Apple", "Wonderbolts Academy", and "Games Ponies Play" come to mind, in my opinion.

Now obviously, the show isn't solid gold 100% of the time, but the quality of episodes did seems a bit wonky this time around. "Crystal Empire", "Keep Calm and Flutter On", and today's episode, "Magical Mystery Cure" were all somewhat flawed episodes in my mind, despite not really being bad at all.

I'm not saying that the show is getting worse by any means. I have full confidence that Season 4 will be great. I'm just saying that I hope they don't do another short season like this again. I feel like, since it was so short, the flaws in the show seem to stand out more.

As for the finale itself, I liked it, but as I previously noted, it's rather uneven. It kinda felt like two episodes smashed together, with one half being about the cutie mark swap, and the second half being the coronation, and the two halves don't really feel THAT well-connected. Neither is BAD, but it was noticeable in my book.

So yeah, my opinion is that this season is mixed, but still overall fairly good. Not as good as Season 2, but still good.

What about the rest of you?
I would like to say I really liked the episodes "One Bad Apple" and "Games Ponies Play". Lackluster the episode "One Bad Apple" having one of the catchiest song I ever heard in the whole season? Or in the episode "Games Ponies Play" that we actually see Rainbow Dash and Twilight have a very important development for their personalities, equally important to them?
Sorry, but I will disagree with you on this one.

Anyway, I am really, REALLY happy about this episode I watched just now from Youtube! The episode had a very successful pace that make all the song equally important. All the songs was great, with my favourite of course "A true, true friend"!!!
I had a little problem with the "Matrix" feeling when the Mane 6 had their memories back and when Celestia bring Twi to......the room of The Architect? The Architect had a special love for ponies it seems....

But the most awesome moment of course of the episode was when the Twiligh at the end of the episode said "Everything's going to be just fine". You know why? The team behind the MLP series heard the fans about the concerns they have about the "Alicorn is BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD THING TO DO IN MLP!!!!"!!!!

And I will say this to the people they had fear about the transformation of Twilight from unicorn to an Alicorn:

Do you really thing THIS deserve so much hate and concern? It was hinted from the FIRST episode of this Season something like that will happen.
Do you thing because Twi become an freaking Alicorn, she will suddenly disappear from the show or not be with her friends anymore?
You know what, let this happen!!!
Reason? We already saw the writers of the show they put so much effort to make all the episodes enjoyable and they care abouttheir fans!
So even in Season 4 would see the most episodes the Mane 5 be alone without Twilight or episode with only Celestia, Luna and Twi only on it, I don't care because the Team behind these ideas, direction,writing,animation,voice actors,etc, are awesome people and they trying their best bring something new and different to the table without making it worst!!!!

Thank you for listening.
 

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Definitely the weakest so far in terms of overall quality. The season opener was also the weakest by far, as well as the finale (which was decent, but definitely no gala and certainly no wedding).

My biggest gripe, however, is the sheer amount of musical numbers this season. Every time one comes up now I just have to roll my eyes because they get shoved into almost every episode now. I liked it better when they were pretty much relegated to season openings and finales, with one showing up every few episodes to shake things up. But now its every 1-2 episodes and it just gets old very quickly.
 

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Leemaster777 said:
(Note: This topic WILL contain spoilers for the final episode. You have been warned.)

(Note 2: If you're only entering this topic to hate on MLP, turn around right now. Trying to have a legitimate discussion here.)


So, with Season 3, arguably the most controversial season for the show yet, out of the way, let us take a moment to reflect. What's your opinion on this season? Good? Bad? Indifferent?

Personally, if I had to sum up the season in a single word, it would be "mixed". Now, don't get me wrong, there are PLENTY of good episodes this season. "Too Many Pinkie Pies", "Magic Duel", and "Sleepless in Ponyville" being standout great episodes. But then again, there are a few episodes I would charitably describe as being... lackluster. "One Bad Apple", "Wonderbolts Academy", and "Games Ponies Play" come to mind, in my opinion.

Now obviously, the show isn't solid gold 100% of the time, but the quality of episodes did seems a bit wonky this time around. "Crystal Empire", "Keep Calm and Flutter On", and today's episode, "Magical Mystery Cure" were all somewhat flawed episodes in my mind, despite not really being bad at all.

I'm not saying that the show is getting worse by any means. I have full confidence that Season 4 will be great. I'm just saying that I hope they don't do another short season like this again. I feel like, since it was so short, the flaws in the show seem to stand out more.

As for the finale itself, I liked it, but as I previously noted, it's rather uneven. It kinda felt like two episodes smashed together, with one half being about the cutie mark swap, and the second half being the coronation, and the two halves don't really feel THAT well-connected. Neither is BAD, but it was noticeable in my book.

So yeah, my opinion is that this season is mixed, but still overall fairly good. Not as good as Season 2, but still good.

What about the rest of you?
The third season of My little Pony was the most amazing thing in existence. Nothing is better or could possibly attain such heights. The creators knew exactly what they were doing with this season. May My Little Pony never end and continue until the end of days
 

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It was a rushed season with Rushed episodes. That is something we all have to remember. Everything about the season was rushed.

... But if it weren't for that, it would be the best season ever.

Heck, I still think it is the best season ever, and the finale is the best Episode ever.

Problem though... The Finale, although great as an episode makes a bad Finale for being too open ended... Like we still have more episodes to go.

This isn't the best place to speak about this at length though, Escapist Forums are notorious for being forgettable.
 

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Loop Stricken said:
V da Mighty Taco said:
Loop Stricken said:
Oh, needed more Pinkamena Diane Pie too.
Pink pony is best pony. XD

Anyways, long story short - I really liked the episode, even though it has quite a few problems. However, my main concern that the show could become "The Twilight Sparkle Show" still stands. I don't like seeing the rest of the Mane 6 reduced to side characters for Twi's story too often, yet the two previous two-parters and to an extent this episode were all just that. They were more focused on in this episode, fortunately, but it's still in the end all about Twi. As much as I like Twilight, she's only one reason out of six that bronies in general watch the show. If it wasn't for the mixed writing quality of S2 and S3 along with those two-parters' emphasis on Twilight alone, I would probably not have an issue with Twilicorn. But with those in mind, I can't help but still be concerned a bit, even if this ep being surprisingly good and Amy Roger's returned has made me calm down a fair bit about it all.
Yyyyyyyyes, but it's like being unable to admit that Stargate SG-1 was basically the Daniel Jackson and Friends show for several seasons.
HOW many times has he saved the fkken universe, died, and resurrected now?
Glad to see that I'm not alone on this. Let's just hope we're wrong about this and that the crew for MLP:FiM remembers to give all the Mane 6 their due.

Here's a direct copypaste of what I said in my thread on S3's finale in case you're curious, though be warned that it is an monstrously large wall o' text:

WARNING: Tactical Nuclear Wall o' Text incoming! It's over... XD

Now that Magical Mystery Cure has finally aired, I wanted to discuss my thoughts on it and see what everyone else thinks as well (<- main discussion value, I genuinely want to discuss the pros and cons here). If you hate pony threads, then now's your cue to leave. I'm also amatuer at this, so forgive me if I come across as unable to speak my thoughts clear enough. I also won't be stating things like "imo", do to it being obvious that this is all my own personal opinion anyways.

Overall, I enjoyed the episode quite a bit for what it was and for it's short time limit (it should've been longer though), yet at the same time my main concern about Princess Twilight still stands (albeit somewhat lessened)- the show could very well become too Twilight focused at the cost of the focus on the rest of the main cast. First though, I want to go into the episode itself more.

The episode did start a little rushed by going straight from Twi singing merrily to discovering Rarity trying to do RD's job and thinking she always has done this. They do explain it shortly afterwards, but that's something I felt they should've setup beforehand. The main plotline itself though was actually interesting, though Celestia does come across as a bit of a ***** for basically tricking Twi into inadvertently screwing with all her friends lives. Still, seeing the rest of the Mane 6 trying to do each others' jobs was funny. Seeing Pinkie with her straight hair was a nice touch at getting across Pinkie's misery at the situation. I do feel there was too big an emphasis on "destiny", but it doesn't hurt the episode too much. Twi's answer to the situation is one that makes sense, and reminds me of the Discord 2-parter with a heavy focus on their friendships. My main complaint here is that the scene where Pinkie get's helped felt almost glanced over and incredibly rushed, and as a "Pinkie is best pony" guy I was looking forward to seeing her part the most.

As for the Princess part, it's handled fairly well and does a pretty good job of sticking to the characters personalities. Things like RD talking about having a new flying buddy were fun to watch. Celestia showing the events of all 3 seasons so far while discussing what Twi has learned really added a lot to the scene and reminded me of all the good (and sometimes bad) times we've had so far with the show. It's simply a beautiful way to lead up to an event that's bound to change things quite a bit - sort of a "reminder of the past while bracing for a hopeful but changing future" kind of thing, and I liked it. Twi's reaction in particular to suddenly being a Princess felt spot-on the vast majority of the time, with only the flying sequence at the very end standing out to me at this moment as out-of-place. Overall, it genuinely felt like how someone would react to such a radical change, and seeing her talk about how important her friends were in her speech did calm my fears down a bit (more on that later) while being a fairly heartwarming scene.

On the more technical side, the animation was absolutely incredible save for the flying Twilight at the end, which looked incredibly goofy as she got close to the screen. The scene with Celestia and Twi looking back on the past in particular deserves special mention, with the background being a gorgeous space-like scenery with vivid blues and whites dominating the scene. Alicorn Twilight does look a bit iffy at first when her wings are spread, but looks far better during the final scenes. Turns out Twi really knows how to rock a dress. :p Admittedly, I didn't like Celestia's and Luna's looks much at the end, as their dresses look out of place on them. I'm also not fond of Celestia's oversized crown, especially when Luna's is small by comparison. It does look silly and makes it seem like Celestia is above her sister on the royal hierarchy, when the series' pilot established that they're suppose to rule Equestria together. It's a minor nitpick, but it does irritate me nonetheless.

The music was just all around great. Hearing so many songs and each one being done so well really made the episode a lot of fun. Sure, none of them are quite on par with the likes of "Art of the Dress" or "Smile", but I could see myself listening to them in my spare time. Hearing Celestia sing was also quite the treat, especially as someone who's been clamoring for more character development for both of the Royal Sisters. The humor was also done moderately well. While the episode clearly wasn't meant to be comedy focused, it definitely gets some good laughs throughout. Tabitha in particular reminds me why she is my favorite VA, though there was one scene that had me rolling that I just can't seem to recall off of the top of my head. The others get some good laughs as well, though I do feel that a bit more could've been done with Pinkie in general.

Overall, I find myself really liking the episode (much better than A Canterlot Wedding and The Crystal Empire, that's for certain). With the exception of my one major concern, I'm really looking forwards to seeing where they'll take this and how this will impact the show. But that does leave me with that concern; and while this episode did give me a bit of hope that my fears won't happen, it does still point to said possibility that the show could very well become mostly about Twilight instead of all of the Mane 6.

My concern originates primarily from A Canterlot Wedding and The Crystal Empire's major focus on Twilight alone, as well as the hit-and-miss nature of Season 2 and 3's writing. In both of those two-parters Applejack, Rarity, Rainbow Dash, Pinkie Pie, and Fluttershy were nothing more than comedic relief. All five of them could have been removed from those episodes entirely and nothing would've changed. The Crystal Empire even actively encouraged Twilight not to use her friends, in a show titled "Friendship is Magic". While Twi did let Spike save the day in the end, the fact remains that the rest of the Mane 6 did essentially nothing to help stop Sombra. Even the one thing they were allowed to do (don't let the Crystal Ponies know the Crystal Heart is a fake), they screwed up on and thus were entirely pointless. They were side characters for Twi's story in both of the last two "Equestria needs saving" stories. Now with Twilight becoming the Equestrian equivalent of a queen, that leaves more than enough potential for Twi to get even more focus over her friends. Considering that Twilight is only one reason out of six that I watch the show, I'd absolutely hate to see that happen. Twi is indeed awesome, but I still want my Pinkie Pie and Rarity episodes. It's hard to imagine making a Princess a side character at all anymore (like Twi has been in episodes like Fall Weather Friends, Stare Master, and Hurricane Fluttershy) or her not taking the spotlight in episodes focused on the entire Mane 6 (such as Swarm of the Century or Bridle Gossip). I also wonder how episodes dedicated to fleshing out her relationship with another pony (Feeling Pinkie Keen, Bird in the Hoof, etc.) will behandled, though I do admit that those could turn out particularly interesting specifically because of Princess Twi. Now many people have said to me that the writers have done a great job all-around so far and that they trust them not to screw it up. That's the thing with me though - I don't think they've done an all-around good job during Seasons 2 and 3. Season 2 in particular relied on flanderizing the characters a lot, doing things like making RD an unlikable ***** too often and making Pinkie do "random" things even when it doesn't make sense for her to do that. Pinkie's random, sure; but there has always been more to her than just "Lol, I'm random". She does actually think about what she's doing, and while being a fun-loving and energetic pony she does have priorities that she put's above those things. Just watch Too Many Pinkie's again if you still don't get what I'm saying here, as that episode breaks down Pinkie's behavior better than I can. Back on topic, there's a reason people don't like Mare-Do-Well, even if I do think it's underrated. With all that in mind, I can't say that I do fully trust the writing team in general not to muck this up, especially when something like Princess Twilight can so easily go wrong unless handled carefully. Admittedly though, hearing that Amy Keating Rogers is back has calmed me down some, as I interviewed her before back at BronyCon in June (it's on Youtube if you want to see it, though it is my first interview). I've always liked her writing style (Best Night Ever and Friend in Deed tie for my favorite episode) and after talking to her she definitely seems like the type who wouldn't completely neglect the other characters.

Overall though, my concern does still stand even if lessened somewhat by the surprisingly good episode and AKR's return. Whether I end up right or not remains to be seen, and I'll be sticking around until at least Season 4. As I've said in the past, even if the show and / or fandom goes completely to shit, I'll still always enjoy most of Seasons 1 - 3 and won't let either of those affect my opinions on them. As I continue to wait anxiously to be proven wrong, I ask you all the following questions:

- What did you think of the S3 finale overall?

- What are your thoughts on my personal fears over the future of MLP:FiM?

- What are your expectations of Season 4? Are you looking forward to some very interesting episodes coming out of Twilicorn? Are you concerned that it could go downhill from here or that the show has jumped the shark? Do you think there might be more Muffin Queen or other popular BG characters appearing in the show?

- Last but certainly not least, the universal brony question: Who is best pony in your eyes? Mine's still Pinkie.

Feel free to criticize me as much as you wish (I know, a dangerous thing to say on the interwebz), so long as you're mature about it. No "go hang yourself" posts or other crap like that, otherwise you'll just get reported and ignored. I'm genuinely wanting to hear other people's opinions, even if they vary from my own. I don't know how to end this wall-o'-text, so I'll just say moar Celestia plz and have a nice day.

Captcha: "have an inkling". Captcha scares me sometimes.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that Luna didn't have a single line throughout the whole episode, which is sad since Twi's coronation is the perfect opportunity to have Luna say or do something, especially after Luna's scenes in The Crystal Empire episodes.
 

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All in all, I thought it was pretty darn fantastic. The season in general has had some of the best episodes so far (Too Many Pinkie Pies and Magic Duel come to mind), but the finale just knocked it out of the park. I was cautious about the whole Alicorn Ascension thing, though I was sure that such a talented team could do a great job with it, but this blew away all of my expectations. Great songs, fun story, and I think that Twilight meeting with Celestia is my favorite scene from the whole show. Celestia's Ballad is definitely my new favorite song.

Gosh, I'm getting all emotional just thinking about it...
 

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Bhaalspawn said:
So they should have given us more of what we'd already seen, and they should have given us something new?

Princess Twilight is pandering Mary Sue to bronies?

Self referencing their previous characters is a bad thing?

Sounds a lot like...



OT: Loved it.
Oh Bhaalspawn. You should take that to /mlp/ and have some real fun. :D
 

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Bhaalspawn said:
Dangit2019 said:
Bhaalspawn said:
So they should have given us more of what we'd already seen, and they should have given us something new?

Princess Twilight is pandering Mary Sue to bronies?

Self referencing their previous characters is a bad thing?

Sounds a lot like...



OT: Loved it.
Oh Bhaalspawn. You should take that to /mlp/ and have some real fun. :D
I will never set foot into 4Chan. I have a brain and I'd like to keep it by not going anywhere near those bigoted, disgusting assholes.
Good call. I learned the hard way when I went in there that the spoiler tags aren't actual plot spoilers.

-shiver-
 

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The initial two-parter was fun, even if Sombre was a disappointment. I *loved* Magic Duel enough to the point where I've put it in my overall top 5 episodes, today's episode was also pretty high quality. And I'll always remember Keep Calm and Flutter On...just for all the wrong reasons. And then there was that episode where....where...ummm. OH! That one where Applejack did that thing and then...and then...

What happened in those other eight episodes, again?

Uh...

BABS SEED!!!

 

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It was OK but if it wasn't for the fact that Twi got wings at the end and I already knew it was the season final, I'd have though it just another ep.

more over it felt incredibly rushed, not that a 1 EP final can't work, S1's was great, but not in this case. A new Princess was crowned and the status quo reworked, that's not a thing you do in one ep, not to mention they really did not give this change the fan fair it should have gotten. Just, bam, new princess, Twi has wings, enjoy, it really felt like a shameless toy commercial for once. (I mean, I know that's all the show is at its core but they usually do a better job hiding it)

So yes, it should have been a two parter, with part 1 ending with Twi getting blasted by the Elements and part 2 being the rest. Mind you, I'm not, nor have I ever been against Twi going Alicorn, far as I'm concerned it's been something thats gonna happen since, well near the end of S1 really, I just don't think they did they change the justice it deserved.

as for the songs ... eh ... they aren't bad but nothing memorable.

hopefully S4 will be better and this season, massively rushed as it was, (which is funny cause its shorter) isn't the new standard for quality.

It did have its moments though.
Wonderbolt Academy, Sleepless in Ponyvillie, Magic Duel, and Apple Family Reunion are Eps I enjoyed, Keep Calm And Flutter On was also a good ep imo despite the slightly flawed resolution at the end, Too Many Pinkie Pies was also pretty good.

No really memorable songs ether, hell I think the best song was in the Crystal Empire eps, the one where they're singing about the fair they're gonna put on to jog the Crystal Pony's memory's, and that's only cause I remember it, sorta.
 

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It was...it sure was. The highs were almost all average episodes, while the lows were some of the lowest of the low, but I can't bring myself to hate it too much because it doesn't inspire much feeling at all. It's just a bloated mess. Ironic.