So, now that the honeymoon period is over... (Skyrim thread)

[Arkley]

I think they've waited too long before putting out some kind of DLC/expansion. This isn't really a criticism, I know they likely haven't waited this long by choice - they promised huge expansions and that takes a lot of work, not to mention all the bug fixes they've had to work on - but I've long grown tired of Skyrim's existing marvels. Not to mention new content is what keeps a lot of players from trading in their games, and Skyrim's admirable and appreciated lack of a "project ten dollar" system leaves it with no method by which to discourage players from buying it pre-owned.

That said, I'm hanging on to my copy and will be for the foreseeable future, even while it serves only to gather dust on a shelf. I just hope new content comes sooner rather than later.

 

[SajuukKhar]

Some town guard saying "You killed a DRAGON?!" then immediately mocking me about having my sweet roll stolen REALLY took the wind out of my sails when I was trying to roleplay.

I have had guards comment on
-Me being a werewolf
-What armor/weapons I am carrying
-What Daedric weapons I have on me, not necessarily equipped
-What I am skilled at
-Actions taken in the quests
--Rise in the East
--Missing In Action
--In My Time Of Need
--Blood on the Ice
--The Blessings of Nature
--Laid to Rest
--Ill Met By Moonlight
--Summerset Shadows
--Imitation Amnesty
--The Dainty Sload
--Loud and Clear
--Destroy the Dark Brotherhood!
--Innocence Lost
--Bound Until Death
--Hail Sithis!
--With Friends Like These...
--Take Up Arms
--Blood's Honor
--Glory of the Dead
--First Lessons
--Under Saarthal
--Good Intentions
--Containment
--Aftershock
--Tending the Flames

Not to mention all the various NPCs thanking for me helping them with whatever item they wanted me to retrieve and/or what person they wanted me to kill.

 

[Jitters Caffeine]

Some town guard saying "You killed a DRAGON?!" then immediately mocking me about having my sweet roll stolen REALLY took the wind out of my sails when I was trying to roleplay.

I have had guards comment on
-Me being a werewolf
-What armor/weapons I am carrying
-What Daedric weapons I have on me, not necessarily equipped
-What I am skilled at
-Actions taken in the quests
--Rise in the East
--Missing In Action
--In My Time Of Need
--Blood on the Ice
--The Blessings of Nature
--Laid to Rest
--Ill Met By Moonlight
--Summerset Shadows
--Imitation Amnesty
--The Dainty Sload
--Loud and Clear
--Destroy the Dark Brotherhood!
--Innocence Lost
--Bound Until Death
--Hail Sithis!
--With Friends Like These...
--Take Up Arms
--Blood's Honor
--Glory of the Dead
--First Lessons
--Under Saarthal
--Good Intentions
--Containment
--Aftershock
--Tending the Flames

Not to mention all the various NPCs thanking for me helping them with whatever item they wanted me to retrieve and/or what person they wanted me to kill.

But they don't REACT to it. It changes literally nothing. You can be a Werewolf, Archmage, the new Listener of the Dark Brotherhood, Leader of the Thieves Guild, have made contact with every Daedra Lord and won thier favor, become a Thane of every major city, be the Harbinger of the Companions, Murder the Leader of the Stormscloaks all at the same time, and not a single person will react any different to you than when you started the game.

 

[SajuukKhar]

Yes because making comments or either applause or of fear depending on your actions isn't them reacting?

You beat the crap out of someone and afterwards they will tell you go go away or say things like "I am surprised you would show your face after everything you have done".

 

[RyoScar]

I still love Skyrim just as much as I did when I first played it, only complaint is it's a bit buggy.

 

[TehCookie]

I have a strong love hate relationship with Skyrim. It's really fun when you think of it as a sims game. You control a person and you go about their daily life in a fantasy setting and maybe save the world on the side if they feel like it. If I actually try to immerse myself in it I hate it. Everything is so disconnected, you may hear a comment about what you did but it doesn't affect how anyone treats you.

The combat defiantly could be improved, you should be able to bind frequently used shit to keys so you don't have to open the menu every single time you want to poison your bow or change spells. It breaks the flow to pause the battle every second to do that.

Oh and the bugs, some are hilarious others make me want to punch my monitor. The most hilarious ones being dead dragons spawning on top of me. The most common one that pisses me off is when I go to sneak shoot my bow and the enemy sidesteps fifty bazillion feet and dodges it and then detects me. Or just hitboxes in general in that game. One that is both hilarious and annoying is fighting something on a slope and after killing it it losing all traction and slides downhill.

 

[Jitters Caffeine]

Yes because making comments or either applause or of fear depending on your actions isn't them reacting?

You beat the crap out of someone and afterwards they will tell you go go away or say things like "I am surprised you would show your face after everything you have done".

Fine, it's a meaningless, shallow reaction

 

[tellytoy]

Some town guard saying "You killed a DRAGON?!" then immediately mocking me about having my sweet roll stolen REALLY took the wind out of my sails when I was trying to roleplay.

I have had guards comment on
-Me being a werewolf
-What armor/weapons I am carrying
-What Daedric weapons I have on me, not necessarily equipped
-What I am skilled at
-Actions taken in the quests
--Rise in the East
--Missing In Action
--In My Time Of Need
--Blood on the Ice
--The Blessings of Nature
--Laid to Rest
--Ill Met By Moonlight
--Summerset Shadows
--Imitation Amnesty
--The Dainty Sload
--Loud and Clear
--Destroy the Dark Brotherhood!
--Innocence Lost
--Bound Until Death
--Hail Sithis!
--With Friends Like These...
--Take Up Arms
--Blood's Honor
--Glory of the Dead
--First Lessons
--Under Saarthal
--Good Intentions
--Containment
--Aftershock
--Tending the Flames

Not to mention all the various NPCs thanking for me helping them with whatever item they wanted me to retrieve and/or what person they wanted me to kill.

But they don't REACT to it. It changes literally nothing. You can be a Werewolf, Archmage, the new Listener of the Dark Brotherhood, Leader of the Thieves Guild, have made contact with every Daedra Lord and won thier favor, become a Thane of every major city, be the Harbinger of the Companions, Murder the Leader of the Stormscloaks all at the same time, and not a single person will react any different to you than when you started the game.

And that there, my friends, is why I stopped playing Skyrim. I felt like my actions made absolutely no impact on the world. Nothing I did mattered. It was simply "Thanks, here's some loot. Let us never speak of this again." The world seemed the same at the start as at the end. Nobody cares who I am or what I have done besides a passing remark. In Fallout: New Vegas, I felt like my choices mattered. If I started helping the Legion, almost everyone would hate me, to the extent that they might attack me. When I had a bad reputation on the Strip, vendors there charged more.
Having reputations and karma make it easy to see the consequences of your actions. If I started murdering NCR troops, the NCR would hate me. Justifiably so. I have killed dozens of Imperials and dozens of Stormcloaks, yet neither side care. They both welcomed me. Yet, they treat me like I have never done anything. I was already Archemage when I joined the Imperials, yet they treated me like a newbie to combat.

 

[Angry_squirrel]

It's kinda dead for me. To be fair though, it lasted longer than most games

 

[Joseph Harrison]

I still like Skyrim, I play it from time to time especially now with the workshop out, I just find it impossible to roleplay. The Game is very shallow and that really just turns me off.

 

[Jitters Caffeine]

And that there, my friends, is why I stopped playing Skyrim. I felt like my actions made absolutely no impact on the world. Nothing I did mattered. It was simply "Thanks, here's some loot. Let us never speak of this again." The world seemed the same at the start as at the end. Nobody cares who I am or what I have done besides a passing remark. In Fallout: New Vegas, I felt like my choices mattered. If I started helping the Legion, almost everyone would hate me, to the extent that they might attack me. When I had a bad reputation on the Strip, vendors there charged more.
Having reputations and karma make it easy to see the consequences of your actions. If I started murdering NCR troops, the NCR would hate me. Justifiably so. I have killed dozens of Imperials and dozens of Stormcloaks, yet neither side care. They both welcomed me. Yet, they treat me like I have never done anything. I was already Archemage when I joined the Imperials, yet they treated me like a newbie to combat.

The game feels more like an interactive museum tour for Elder Scrolls fans.

"Hey, remember this? This is a reference to Morrowind!"
"OH! How about this guy? Remember him?"
"Here's a book that talks about some character that was in ANOTHER book from Oblivion!"

And yes, the world feels so apathetic to you and their SUPPOSED impending Doom by Ancient Dragon God. The world feels so sterile. Nothing you do has any impact on anything.

Oh, and speaking of being Archmage of the Wizard's College. I was a Warrior who knew literally 3 spells and had an Alteration of like 30. I became the Archmage of Winterhold.

It's kinda dead for me. To be fair though, it lasted longer than most games

I still go back and play Fallout 3 and New Vegas. The games are so much fun and the world so inviting and immersive, and can't stay away for long.

 

[Artemicion]

Skyrim does many small things right but when you put it all together it feels lacking.

 

[putowtin]

hugely enjoyable, yes I don't play it as much as I did a couple of months ago, but I know when I want to go back to it I've still to play the Imperial side of the civil war and countless side missions.

 

[Dansen]

I only played Skyrim for a solid week before I put it down, there is no way that game could compete with Dark Souls for my attention.

 

[SajuukKhar]

Fine, it's a meaningless, shallow reaction

Then what would be an appropriate reaction?

Them climbing on top on buildings and screaming our name in joy for all the heavens to hear?

People VASTLY over-expect what the reactions to events would be.

 

[babinro]

Disappointing. I've put 80 hours into the game though so I could hardly call it bad.

I wouldn't even put it in my top 5 of 2011 looking back though. That list would go:
1) SWTOR
2) Dragon Age 2
3) inFamous 2
4) Arkham City
5) Uncharted 3

 

[Ed130 The Vanguard]

Still have it installed, but I'm not playing at the moment due to Fallout New Vegas.

I'm surprised by Steam Workshop, I didn't expect that many mods on it, or that it would be a half decent competitor to the Nexus sites.

 

[BrotherRool]

Yes because making comments or either applause or of fear depending on your actions isn't them reacting?

You beat the crap out of someone and afterwards they will tell you go go away or say things like "I am surprised you would show your face after everything you have done".

You're going to have to clarify which side you're arguing on I'm afraid. I genuinely can't tell.

From your first sentence I think I'd guess if I had to make a call that you're pro Skyrim reacting.

But that description is so... it feels like you're mocking the game. I'm an outsider, I couldn't get past the first hour of Skyrim, so I'm not reading this with experience, but you're saying that you can beat the crud out of someone and the game responds with 'tut, tut, you really shouldn't do that?'

I'm not even asking for a lot. In _Planescape_ made, 13 years ago in the previous millenia, they had a perfectly acceptable reaction. They'd either attack you on sight for what you'd done or run away in fear. It's over the top but it's not a reaction if you can beat someone up and have them afterwards say 'oh dear' and then treat you like normal.

 

[Fiz_The_Toaster]

I like it, and I'm borderline loving it. I will have more of opinion of that when I actually finish the main quest and stop wandering around going into caves looking for stuff.

I will say I've had a lot of fun going into caves and running into random quests, the quests themselves may or may not be fun or interesting, but I thought it was pretty damn cool.

After finishing the Dark Brotherhood and thieves guild quests, I think those were a lot of fun and really interesting, especially the Dark Brotherhoods, not so much Cicero because he was annoying as hell. I haven't picked a side in the main story just because I wanted to see how long I can last without picking one, and it would be kinda awkward siding with the Imperials right away after what I did.

Right now I'm going back to playing other games that I need to finish, but I know I will be popping Skyrim back into my PS3 every now and then, and possibly play it with a different character.