So, on a scale of 1-10, how bad is this?

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GWarface

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Friends that draw on your face, do the coffeetable-trick or really anything dumb to you while you sleep = stupid friends..

Friends that grope you and touch your special place while you sleep = really fucking insane friends..

Get that guy out of your life.. And tell the girl, she has to know..
 

Krantos

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Probably about a 7.5 where 1 is laugh about it and 10 is call the cops now.

Should he have done that, definitely not. Is it unacceptable, yes. Should they not have gotten that drunk in the first place and avoided the whole thing? Hell, yes.
 

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On a scale from one to ten, this is an eleven. What he did really is messed up. Good for you for calling him out.
Well, ten. Eleven would have been if he raped her, I think. Doesn't make this any less disgusting, though.
 

AstylahAthrys

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That is horrible. If a guy ever did that to me, I'd want to know so I could call the cops. Being drunk is no excuse, and if she is in a state where she can't say "yes," it's an implied "no" and it's sexual assault. He's a pervert.
 
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That's kinda messed up. Though on a scale of one to ten I'd say something like a five or so. Right in the middle. There are plenty of things you can do that wouldn't be as bad and plenty of things that would be far worse. It's a pretty rotten thing to do and it speaks volumes of his character, but it could have been worse and there are worse things that can be done. At least he was honest with you. It's the kind of thing he wouldn't have to ever tell anyone but he told you about it. At the very least this man must trust you and that's gotta mean something.
 

PureChaos

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sure it's bad but at least it was just a grope, if she was passed out he could have done much worse.
 

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That is super douchey, I can't really give it a 1-10 score but he really deserves a hell of a lot of stick for this. You might want to think about letting her know, or get him to confess or something, because if he's done it once and doesn't agree with you when you say it's wrong he may well do the same again or worse.


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Shiny Koi said:
Um. Yes it is. Take this to court and you would be able to prosecute the OP's friend for rape.

Rape is defined as any sort of nonconsensual "sexual" contact. As I said above, kissing someone against their will can be and has been construed as rape.
What he's done is hideous, but it isn't rape, no court would call that rape*, maybe if he penetrated her vagina or anus then it might be depending on the jurisdiction, but otherwise it's sexual assault.

*OK, maybe in Australia where you live, but otherwise no, certainly not "virtually every jurisdiction"
 

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I think the real key there is actually in the "the other day he told me" part.
Was this a feeling so guilty he had to offload it, or asking you for advice on what to do, or was it basicly bragging about it?
Given the huge lack of detail and the human tendency to imagine the worst possible case I think the way he was telling you this is actually very important for figuring that out.

Also, he is still her friend too, tell him to admit it to her. Part of something like that being traumatising is how much time she has for her imagination to come up with possibilities which contintue to develop the longer they remain uncertain. If she can ask him for specific details right away its less psychologicaly distressing for her.
Actually, a good time for him to admit that is next time they get drunk together, it takes the awkwardness out of anything and she'd tell him what she really thinks.

Lastly, if she was so drunk she passed out, chances are he was almost drunk enough to pass out.
I've known people who thought it would be a good idea to bite through their glass or try to jump off a roof when they were that drunk. (niether needed an ambulence luckily)
Alcahol does have a habit of messing with the "that is a totally stupid freaking idea" filter in your head. This isn't something he did sober.
 

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no youre not - id tell your friends friend about what happened with some goood proof of it and be done with this guy.

Holy shit, if a friend of mine would do that i would smack him as hard as i could as long as i could and then never talk to him again.
 

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Shiny Koi said:
TrilbyWill said:
Mr.Pandah said:
If she was legitimately knocked out, like, cold on the mattress because she passed out, I'd say that is crossing the line. At least he didn't rape her or something. That would be a sticky situation...
is it wrong i want to laugh at that last sentence, merely because of the context of sex?
but yeah, i would say maybe a 3 if she was just drunk because its uncomfortable and kind of taking advantage. but out cold is about an 8. at least it wasnt rape.
Um. Yes it is. Take this to court and you would be able to prosecute the OP's friend for rape.

Rape is defined as any sort of nonconsensual "sexual" contact. As I said above, kissing someone against their will can be and has been construed as rape.
seriously? that makes sense.
then how come men cant legally be raped by women in scotland?
 

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Shiny Koi said:
TrilbyWill said:
Mr.Pandah said:
If she was legitimately knocked out, like, cold on the mattress because she passed out, I'd say that is crossing the line. At least he didn't rape her or something. That would be a sticky situation...
is it wrong i want to laugh at that last sentence, merely because of the context of sex?
but yeah, i would say maybe a 3 if she was just drunk because its uncomfortable and kind of taking advantage. but out cold is about an 8. at least it wasnt rape.
Um. Yes it is. Take this to court and you would be able to prosecute the OP's friend for rape.

Rape is defined as any sort of nonconsensual "sexual" contact. As I said above, kissing someone against their will can be and has been construed as rape.
This seems kind of weird...what does sexual assault refer to, then?
 

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No.

A friend would never do that, fuck. You want to know what a true friend would do? Pass out in the bathtub.

Let me tell you, that like a bed outside of a bed.
 

Iwata

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The guy's a creepy douchebag, and you should start looking for a new friend.
 

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Wrong. When someone is completely helpless and you care about them, you protect them from creeps trying to touch them, not touch them yourselves. If she was awake and consensual than sure but this is crossing the line.

7/10 on the wrong scale. At least he was able to restrain himself from going further but you have every right to be disgusted with him.