So Prop. 19 didnt go through (the one about Legalizing Marijuana)

[Gaz6231]

*shrugs* I honestly can't give a shit about this, seeing as I don't give a shit aboot weed. Hooray for indifference!

GASP

An Undecided One?

YOU ARE NOT WELCOME IN THESE HALLOWED HALLS

 

[Dango]

WORDS WORDS WORDS

You're forgetting that Prop 19 included personal growing and that it's already legal to buy hemp seeds.

And you're forgetting... well... everything else he wrote... I'd say a good argument requires a good counter-argument, at least for the sake of gentlemen-ship.

 

[UltimatheChosen]

Sorry fellow Californians, Marijuana is STILL illegal
Proposition 19
No 3,826,487 53.8%
Yes 3,297,590 46.2%

Total votes 7124077

i guess California is still as ass-backwards as ever, especially since it was SHOWN that this would generate tax revenue for the government that they could have given to schools or to fixing roads.

EDIT: Removed some stuff to force people to discuss the ACTUAL ISSUE and not troll on me.

Having a state nullify federal laws?

I don't see any way that could backfire. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War]

 

[Jake the Snake]

*shrugs* I honestly can't give a shit about this, seeing as I don't give a shit aboot weed. Hooray for indifference!

GASP

An Undecided One?

YOU ARE NOT WELCOME IN THESE HALLOWED HALLS

Oh no! But wait! I have the perfect distraction (Pulls out a lava lamp) Muahaha! I have rendered all the pot smokers in the room utterly powerless!

 

[OmegaWarmech]

I think it's a good thing. Due to my lack of experience in the big, wide world, I don't like the idea of drugs being legal. I think we should make stuff like smoking and drinking illegal instead of making some less dangerous stuff legal. Just because it's not as harmful doesn't exactly make it good for you, does it?

Google "America 1920 Prohibition" and I think you'd be rather surprised at how much people hate not being able to drink.

 

[Gaz6231]

And you're forgetting... well... everything else he wrote... I'd say a good argument requires a good counter-argument, at least for the sake of gentlemen-ship.

Oh don't get me wrong, I read his case. He made plenty of good points which I'd be inclined to agree with, even if they were based on what, to me at least, is a rather pessimistic outlook.

In short, I really can't fault his opinion in any specific way without basically telling him he's wrong for no reason.

Oh no! But wait! I have the perfect distraction (Pulls out a lava lamp) Muahaha! I have rendered all the pot smokers in the room utterly powerless!

I...I can't look away...

 

[Samus Aaron]

So you're trying to tell me that it is physically impossible to get addicted to marijuana?

Yep, that's pretty much exactly what I'm trying to tell you. Marijuana has never been proven to have any physically addictive properties.

It is possible to get addicted to literally anything if said thing is used repeatedly, even things like television, which is not physically consumed.

Then I guess by your stance we should make any further TV technology illegal?

Try again when you can smoke in a bar again. Smoking anything makes you practically a pariah these days.

Man, tell me about it. I feel like a leper just because I like a cigarette now and then.

Christ, NO, I said this MULTIPLE times. I'm merely stating the fact that it is addictive to an extent (yes that's right, I'm standing by my argument, and you can stand by yours) not that it should be banned. Not once did I EVER say that these things should be banned because they are addictive. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with something being addictive. And for the last time, my original argument was not about whether marijuana is addictive, but about Prop 19 itself. I couldn't care less about how addictive marijuana is, or anything else for that matter.

 

[Nautical Honors Society]

It was for the decriminalization of marijuana...not legalization.

 

[iDENTiCON]

Democracy triumphs again.

That wasn't sarcasm, btw. People made a decision. It may or may not be the right one, but it's A decision

Total End Game.

 

[yanipheonu]

I just hope a lot of the votes were informed and not "DURRRRR Mary-joo-wanna is bad I'd better say no"

 

[hooksashands]

Does anyone like peanut butter? I'm allergic to it, but that doesn't mean I vote on laws that put people in jail for eating peanut butter. Stop being an asshole, please.

 

[Gaz6231]

Look man am just saying i do not want to respond to this alright its a little to bizzare for me.

It's not bizarre at all, it's a simple question. I'm not asking you if you think ostriches are good poker players, what I'm asking is do you, or do you not, support the irrefutable evidence that early judeo-christian cultures used cannabis oil in anointing ceremonies? Because if you do, your entire argument up to this point becomes invalid. If you don't, you're turning your back on both logic and your religion.

1326zaG

 

[Gone]

I don't see why anyone is surprised. Marijuana is still too much of a taboo thing in our culture for a bill like this one to pass.

I was asked why I don't support the bill this was the only thing I can pull to mind. After reading the little voting info pamphlet I ended up voting yes because of all the things it would do. (Brains before heart and all that good stuff)I think we see this bill pushed through legislation again and put back up to vote as soon as possible and I think in the future the margin will grow smaller and smaller until it passes. (I know nothing of the American law system so I don't know if this is even possible)

 

[Legion IV]

Look man am just saying i do not want to respond to this alright its a little to bizzare for me.

It's not bizarre at all, it's a simple question. I'm not asking you if you think ostriches are good poker players, what I'm asking is do you, or do you not, support the irrefutable evidence that early judeo-christian cultures used cannabis oil in anointing ceremonies? Because if you do, your entire argument up to this point becomes invalid. If you don't, you're turning your back on both logic and your religion.

1326zaG

Remember? Only saying there name backwards will send them back to the dimension from where they belong. comon am just tryin to have fun here.

 

[tthor]

lol ofcourse it would fail to pass, all the stoners forgot it was voting day! lol silly potheads

 

[Bon_Clay]

I just hope a lot of the votes were informed and not "DURRRRR Mary-joo-wanna is bad I'd better say no"

Well the problem with that is if more people were properly informed it wouldn't have gone that way regardless if they are fans of weed or not. I have no interest in it, but there are plenty of pros for legalization, financial and otherwise, and basically no cons.

Democracy loses a lot of its effectiveness the larger the scale the votes are done on in my opinion. Its hard enough to get the majority of the public informed on actual facts to begin with, then on top of that you have nutcases making huge amounts of noise trying to sway peoples opinions and being successful a lot of the time.

 

[x434343]

Sorry fellow Californians, Marijuana is STILL illegal
Proposition 19
No 3,826,487 53.8%
Yes 3,297,590 46.2%

Total votes 7124077

i guess California is still as ass-backwards as ever, especially since it was SHOWN that this would generate tax revenue for the government that they could have given to schools or to fixing roads.

EDIT: Removed some stuff to force people to discuss the ACTUAL ISSUE and not troll on me.

1. Boo hoo, your side didn't pass. Rewrite and return in 24 months.
2. There was no actual PROOF it would greatly increase revenue. In fact, there's a largely-grounded theory about it COSTING California jobs due to the cancellation of Federal contracts. Those contracts would be cancelled because there would be no way to guarantee a drug-free workplace. Before you say, "They can fire anyone who lights up," remember, special brownies aren't something that can be screened (and neither is any other food with weed in it).

 

[Jonny1188]

I have no interest in it, but there are plenty of pros for legalization, financial and otherwise, and basically no cons.

I'm for legalization, but I can't say there aren't any cons. For instance, I think it's hard to argue that DUI's would see a big increase as well as other crimes. Not to mention the fact that the FBI can still crack down on you.

 

[Feste the Jester]

So you didn't vote, but you're complaining about the outcome? You realize if you DID vote you could have made a difference, and I can guarantee the people who fall into the "I don't vote" category is huge. People who don't vote shouldn't complain about the outcome. You didn't do your part to make a difference, or even attempt to, so why should you be bothered about how it went?

I'm bothered by it and don't vote. I CANNOT vote. Remember there is an age requirement on voting. We can still care about the issues though.

OT: Both my parents voted against it. I tried to convince them but they didn't like any of my points.

 

[The_Joy]

Hmmm... I'm also undecided on how I feel about this topic. I would really love to be educated about Marijuana, its effects, application for recreational and medical use, dangers, all of that stuff. It is so difficult finding an unbiased source to get all this information from though. A lot of people in this thread seem to be varied on opinions, and it is a very interesting read, but for someone on the fence about such an issue, can anyone recommend a good source to really learn about it all?