So... Repopulate?

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Kuchinawa212

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Depends how desperate. I mean for humanity. It could take a few hours to reason we should start ASAP. If there is still hope, maybe a few days, weeks
 

kwagamon

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Souplex said:
kwagamon said:
If I was the last man on Earth, regardless of how many women there were, humanity would grind to a halt. This isn't saying that no woman would want me or anything emo like that, it's just that I could NEVER work up the nerve to just openly say something like that.

...I should probably do something about that.
She could always make a move.
It explicitly says that for this scenario, she won't. In non-scenario terms, that's my style. My technique, if you will.
 

tobi the good boy

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No i wouldn't, not to keen on humanity(im certain its our fault we ended up in this situation) but sure i'd keep them around for amusement and company (and to drive off insanity) like with any friend.
 

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tobi the good boy said:
No i wouldn't, not to keen on humanity(im certain its our fault we ended up in this situation) but sure i'd keep them around for amusement and company (and to drive off insanity) like with any friend.
Humans only cause insanity, find a sock puppet. If everyone else is dead they should be on sale! Supply and demand man ;)
 

8bitmaster

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you can't do it with 2 because no matter how many children there are, they can't repopulate any further without extreme probability of birth defects. You would need at least 3-4 people for a probable way of repopulation.
 

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maddawg IAJI said:
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maddawg IAJI said:
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Shag first. Consequences be damned!

Also repopulating the world with only two people means that the subsequent generations will have a similar gene pool. That's just not a good idea in an evolutionary perspective.
The 3rd Generation of offspring would most likely be mentally disabled unless you could find another person to mate with. There isn't even a real gurante that your offspring would survive given the conditions and if you lack the training to deliver said baby safely.
Though if some major religions are to be believed then perhaps the last two people on earth could make like Adam & Eve 2.0 and hope an all-knowing and all-powerful deity can sort shit out.
I think if an all knowing deity existed, then the disaster wouldn't have happened in the first place xD
If you have ever played SimCity where you have spent hours building up your ideal city and then you get that feeling where you are tempted to click the red button labeled "initiate natural disaster"...yeah, I assume even god can get bored.

There is nothing like introducing a little bit of chaos into organised life..for teh lulz xD
 

tobi the good boy

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2fish said:
tobi the good boy said:
No i wouldn't, not to keen on humanity(im certain its our fault we ended up in this situation) but sure i'd keep them around for amusement and company (and to drive off insanity) like with any friend.
Humans only cause insanity, find a sock puppet. If everyone else is dead they should be on sale! Supply and demand man ;)
Words of wisdom,
 

maddawg IAJI

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Kaboose the Moose said:
maddawg IAJI said:
Kaboose the Moose said:
maddawg IAJI said:
Kaboose the Moose said:
Shag first. Consequences be damned!

Also repopulating the world with only two people means that the subsequent generations will have a similar gene pool. That's just not a good idea in an evolutionary perspective.
The 3rd Generation of offspring would most likely be mentally disabled unless you could find another person to mate with. There isn't even a real gurante that your offspring would survive given the conditions and if you lack the training to deliver said baby safely.
Though if some major religions are to be believed then perhaps the last two people on earth could make like Adam & Eve 2.0 and hope an all-knowing and all-powerful deity can sort shit out.
I think if an all knowing deity existed, then the disaster wouldn't have happened in the first place xD
If you have ever played SimCity where you have spent hours building up your ideal city and then you get that feeling where you are tempted to click the red button labeled "initiate natural disaster"...yeah, I assume even god can get bored.

There is nothing like introducing a little bit of chaos into organised life..for teh lulz xD
Very very true my friend. Just reading that, I guess that would explain why everyone likes staring at Car Crashes too.
 

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maddawg IAJI said:
If it is only two people, Repopulation is out of the question. Not a big enough Gene Pool. You'd need a good number of people to make a sustainable population and even then, that wouldn't last forever.
This. With 2 human beings and only 2 it is simply not going to work. If I wake up and discover I'm the last human alive, I'm not going to look for sex. I'm going to spend the rest of my life packing and burying artifacts of humanity and, doing my damndest to carve out monuments that I and humanity existed.

I don't want kids anyway but that would be a crappy reason to not repopulate if I say, found a group of survivors.
 

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I must agree with the first post. Despite what the Bible tells us, two humans is too few to propagate a viable population. First rule of genetics; you have to spread the genes apart otherwise it leads to homozygosity. After a couple generations, you'll be left with offspring with such severe mental and physical retardation that they'll be lucky if they can chew their own food (see Charles II of Spain).
 

maddawg IAJI

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canadamus_prime said:
maddawg IAJI said:
If it is only two people, Repopulation is out of the question. Not a big enough Gene Pool. You'd need a good number of people to make a sustainable population and even then, that wouldn't last forever.
That's pretty much what I was going to say. Contrary to popular belief, 2 individuals aren't enough to repopulate an entire species. To establish a viable population, I'd estimate that you'd need to begin with at least 10 individuals, 5 males and 5 females.
You'd need a lot more then that man. At least a good hundred or so just to make sure that you have enough Diversity.
 

WolfThomas

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As to the OP's question I wouldn't bring up sex in such abrupt terms, it'd just happen. Seriously the two of us are huddling for warmth, frightened by the sound of wild dogs, both missing everyone we've ever known, it's going to happen very fast even if it's not particularly romantic or even pleasant, it'd be too tired depressed and desperate human beings trying to find some small shred of comfort in a bleak and empty world.

As for kids, well shit I think we'd probably use scavenged contraception because we'd wouldn't want to bring a kid/s into such a horrible world (plus attempting natural childbirth). But then if it did happen we'd love and teach them everything we know. We'd compell them to search out other humans and have strict rules about their physical interactions if they're male and female. But at the same time it's a screwed up situation and if they entered into a relationship once they're reached adult age I wouldn't like it, but I don't know what I'd do.

Kaboose the Moose said:
Though if some major religions are to be believed then perhaps the last two people on earth could make like Adam & Eve 2.0 and hope an all-knowing and all-powerful deity can sort shit out.
Yeah but there's a difference between bilblical Adam and Eve and two modern humans. Even though I don't believe in it, the Adam and Eve of the bible were basically perfect humans, close to superhuman, tall strong and without a single genetic defect. They lived for centuries if not millenias, in fact pre-flood humans in general were meant to live for ages Noah died at the age of 900. It was only post floods that humans weren't allowed to marry relatives and didn't live to much more than a 100. Yeah so once again I don't believe this, just yeah Adam and Eve work within the context of the story.
canadamus_prime said:
maddawg IAJI said:
If it is only two people, Repopulation is out of the question. Not a big enough Gene Pool. You'd need a good number of people to make a sustainable population and even then, that wouldn't last forever.
That's pretty much what I was going to say. Contrary to popular belief, 2 individuals aren't enough to repopulate an entire species. To establish a viable population, I'd estimate that you'd need to begin with at least 10 individuals, 5 males and 5 females.
You'd probably want more males than females because that way you can produce more offspring at once. While inbreeding is going to be a problem, applying eugenics (the only time I think it's probably aceptable) in preventing those with obvious defects from breeding should hopefully breed out obvious bad conditions (internal stuff we can't really monitor). There are species such as the Cheetah who've gone through a huge genetic bottleneck and had to undergo a large amount of inbreeding but have made it back after the defects were breed out of the group and died.

Dorian6 said:
I must agree with the first post. Despite what the Bible tells us, two humans is too few to propagate a viable population. First rule of genetics; you have to spread the genes apart otherwise it leads to homozygosity. After a couple generations, you'll be left with offspring with such severe mental and physical retardation that they'll be lucky if they can chew their own food (see Charles II of Spain).
As I said above, while I don't believe it, Adam and Eve were meant to be physicaly perfect no defects to come out during inbreeding. Thousands of years of background radiation and chromosome mismatchs would eventually lead to these surfacing but by then they'd have several generations removed from each other.
 

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Find an artificial gestation machine and get busy about twenty thousand times. Then, raise the test tube babies and have them repeat the cycle. God willing, we'll eventually get to soemthing resembling a sustainable population.
 

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maddawg IAJI said:
Kaboose the Moose said:
maddawg IAJI said:
Kaboose the Moose said:
Shag first. Consequences be damned!

Also repopulating the world with only two people means that the subsequent generations will have a similar gene pool. That's just not a good idea in an evolutionary perspective.
The 3rd Generation of offspring would most likely be mentally disabled unless you could find another person to mate with. There isn't even a real gurante that your offspring would survive given the conditions and if you lack the training to deliver said baby safely.
Though if some major religions are to be believed then perhaps the last two people on earth could make like Adam & Eve 2.0 and hope an all-knowing and all-powerful deity can sort shit out.
I think if an all knowing deity existed, then the disaster wouldn't have happened in the first place xD
What about Noah's Ark? In that case an all-knowing deity, instead of fixing people, decided to mercilessly kill all but one family. And that family was only saved because they dedicated their mortal lives to the loving worship of a genocidal deity.

OT: She might have STI's or HIV! And without any doctors to test her I am not willing to take that risk, especially not for a mentally/physically retarded, repopulating species.
 

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I would probably bring it up sooner. I wouldn't be serious about it at first though, just bring it up as a joke. Use the moment to plant the idea in her head; make her think about.
 

2fish

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To everyone discussing if this is possible:

While you were here debating if this would work your mate just walked out the door with a manikin from the dollar store. Stop talking logic in an illogical scenario please; this is more about morals and choice than science.

To everyone else:
Sorry to have interrupted what promises to be a fun thread.

Where did I put my sock puppet? Lefty where are you pal?
 

TehCookie

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Never, if he brought it up I'd say no. He's not the one who would have to deal with the pregnancy and childbirth (especially with no hospitals).
 

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"Well, it's the end of the world, we're the only two people left, there's no chance we can repopulate the world, but if you ever get bored, call me. I'm going to go to that liquor store, get trashed and watch the sun go down."

Yeah if the world was destroyed I'd have other things on my mind besides getting laid.
 

Redlin5_v1legacy

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Shrug and do whatever the heck I always wanted to do before I died. I know two people can't save a race. Even if she was up to it, I wouldn't want the offspring as that would mean bringing them into a world where they are doomed to die alone.