So sick of the "friend zone".

Recommended Videos

LetalisK

New member
May 5, 2010
2,769
0
0
Naeras said:
Honestly, none of these tips work without the one main ingredient for all of this to work: self-confidence. Women love that shit, and don't really give a damn about everything else if that's not in place.
The biggest lady-magnets I know of never needed to do anything specific to get female attention. They just got it, not because of apparent interests or stereotypical good looks, but because of, well, self-confidence. It works for me too, and I've never been one to hide the fact that I'm a massive nerd.
I'd also like to point out that another reason a self-confident person is better at this is because they learn to accept rejection and move on. Nice Guys TM don't, thus they fixate on someone who they will never get.
 

Tharwen

Ep. VI: Return of the turret
May 7, 2009
9,145
0
41
SaneAmongInsane said:
Tharwen said:
SaneAmongInsane said:
Be a scumbag.

No I'm serious. If you always play it nice, you'll end up screwed over.
Fuck off. What you just said is worse in every way than the 'scumbags' you're talking about. Just learn to talk to girls people and move onto one that's actually interested in you.

Unless that was ironic. In which case, I will congratulate you on your wit and wish you a good day.
Scumbag was probably the wrong word to use, but girls don't get attracted to the door mat guys that do everything for them. Ya gotta be kind of a dick sometimes.
To reiterate:

"Just learn to talk to people"
 

JoesshittyOs

New member
Aug 10, 2011
1,965
0
0
You obviously weren't ready to have a relationship with this girl. Yeah, it's blunt. You valued her friendship over a romantic relationship, and you suffered the consequences of that.

You can't be half in, half out (disregarding friends with benefits). Either you want to get romantically involved, or you don't. I did the exact same thing as you, although mine ended with both of us hating each other's guts. I was so worried of losing her completely, that I never was up front about it. I was her friend for months until I finally told her how I felt, and we eventually got together. But it was doomed before it even started, because I was a friend to her before I was a boyfriend, and it became very apparent that she was interested in kid-with-the-douchebag-haircut. I tried to end it cleanly, with the hopes of remaining friends, yet it's never the same after you've both had feelings (Or I had feelings. I think to her, it was more a series of zeroes and ones feeding into the radioactive battery that was posing as a heart). We practically were at fist-a-cuffs before the end of it. Haven't talked to her in a year.

(Though I have to say, this thread it really making me want to reconnect with her, and work it out)

You really shouldn't be that worried about the "rebound". I know a couple that was the product of a rebound, and they're due to get married this summer (hell, I'm still half convinced that she only started dating the other guy to get back at the breakup-ee).
 

Estranged180

New member
Mar 30, 2011
164
0
0
I was in the friend zone once... until I did something completely insane. I came clean to the person that put me there (me).

I eventually got the girl I had pined over for years aside, and told her which side the bread was buttered on. It took a full night for her to figure out who had been there the whole time, right in front of her face. The man that every other man will be judged against, me.

The best advice I can give you... come clean. You already have nothing to lose. A 'friend' that would treat a friend like that, isn't a 'friend' at all. You've already lost that.

beniki said:
Damn the torpedoes. Damn the 'loss of friendship'. Damn every barrier, be they social, geographical or even mental.
Best advice ever. What's the worst that could happen? She says 'no'?


Captcha: Lose face
I had to lol at that.
 

Bradeck

New member
Sep 5, 2011
243
0
0
Mortai Gravesend said:
Bradeck said:
Sorry if this offends anyone, "I think we should just be friends" is women speak for you're too ugly, smelly, weird, nerdy, stupid, or uncool to date me, and I can do a lot better than you" without all the hurt feelings. If a woman says that to you, she does not want to date you, so stop trying to force yourself on her.
Did the possibility ever cross your mind that not being ugly, smelly, weird, nerdy, stupid, uncool or whatever is not enough to get a girlfriend? He could be none of those things and she could still have a reason to prefer to be friends instead of dating. Your statement offends me with how stupid it is. Maybe they just don't find your personality to be the kind they're looking for in a boyfriend. It doesn't have to be that they think you're awful in some manner, though it's possible, it can be that they're fine being friends with you but simply do not find themselves liking you in a manner that is necessary for a romantic relationship.
Ok tough guy. Your avatar offends me with how dumb it is.

Look, if you are the type of guy that believes the shit, it's because you are the exact guy I am talking about. Sorry, but it's true. You're that guy. Keep telling yourself that your little mantra about genuine friendship is true, I'm gonna go have sex with the prom queen.


You say
 

Bradeck

New member
Sep 5, 2011
243
0
0
Mortai Gravesend said:
Bradeck said:
Mortai Gravesend said:
Bradeck said:
Sorry if this offends anyone, "I think we should just be friends" is women speak for you're too ugly, smelly, weird, nerdy, stupid, or uncool to date me, and I can do a lot better than you" without all the hurt feelings. If a woman says that to you, she does not want to date you, so stop trying to force yourself on her.
Did the possibility ever cross your mind that not being ugly, smelly, weird, nerdy, stupid, uncool or whatever is not enough to get a girlfriend? He could be none of those things and she could still have a reason to prefer to be friends instead of dating. Your statement offends me with how stupid it is. Maybe they just don't find your personality to be the kind they're looking for in a boyfriend. It doesn't have to be that they think you're awful in some manner, though it's possible, it can be that they're fine being friends with you but simply do not find themselves liking you in a manner that is necessary for a romantic relationship.
Ok tough guy. Your avatar offends me with how dumb it is.
Tough guy? Lol? Do the insecure always mistake me making snide comments for me thinking I'm tough?

Look, if you are the type of guy that believes the shit, it's because you are the exact guy I am talking about. Sorry, but it's true. You're that guy. Keep telling yourself that your little mantra about genuine friendship is true, I'm gonna go have sex with the prom queen.
What the hell are you smoking? It just means I have a brain and I know that it takes more than all that junk to get someone to like you. Sorry if that's just beyond you. Basic logic.

Also it's pretty clear that your advice is just the advice of some immature guy who thinks having sex with the prom queen is everyone's goal. Also pretty telling of your age. Now maybe you're so pathetically desperate that you want to have sex with any girl, but personally I have some standards. I wouldn't want to be with some boring girl who didn't care for anything I did. I'm not so pathetically desperate I'd pick up an activity just to make her interested in me.

I say that your comment was stupid because it is.
Dude,

One look at your profile tells me all I need to know.

Knowing everything
Immortality
Crushing your hopes and dreams

Those are your hobbies and activities. Followed by of metaphysical bullshit about identity and power of self. And I'm the loser? Hah! Nice MSN name.

I LOVE what the internet has done for people like you. Words don't make it so. Get off your high horse on sexuality and worthiness. You're some pariah because you're waiting for the one true girl/guy that will respect you for you? Great. I will treat you the same way I treat all the Mormon virgins I come across. Get familiar with pre-nups.
 

liquidsolid

New member
Feb 18, 2011
357
0
0
You should probably find a real girlfriend and replace her. That way you end up happier because dealing with a girl who is insecure enough in herself to like a guy for the sole reason that he does not like her will only make your life more difficult.
 

Bradeck

New member
Sep 5, 2011
243
0
0
Mortai Gravesend said:
Bradeck said:
Mortai Gravesend said:
Bradeck said:
Mortai Gravesend said:
Bradeck said:
Sorry if this offends anyone, "I think we should just be friends" is women speak for you're too ugly, smelly, weird, nerdy, stupid, or uncool to date me, and I can do a lot better than you" without all the hurt feelings. If a woman says that to you, she does not want to date you, so stop trying to force yourself on her.
Did the possibility ever cross your mind that not being ugly, smelly, weird, nerdy, stupid, uncool or whatever is not enough to get a girlfriend? He could be none of those things and she could still have a reason to prefer to be friends instead of dating. Your statement offends me with how stupid it is. Maybe they just don't find your personality to be the kind they're looking for in a boyfriend. It doesn't have to be that they think you're awful in some manner, though it's possible, it can be that they're fine being friends with you but simply do not find themselves liking you in a manner that is necessary for a romantic relationship.
Ok tough guy. Your avatar offends me with how dumb it is.
Tough guy? Lol? Do the insecure always mistake me making snide comments for me thinking I'm tough?

Look, if you are the type of guy that believes the shit, it's because you are the exact guy I am talking about. Sorry, but it's true. You're that guy. Keep telling yourself that your little mantra about genuine friendship is true, I'm gonna go have sex with the prom queen.
What the hell are you smoking? It just means I have a brain and I know that it takes more than all that junk to get someone to like you. Sorry if that's just beyond you. Basic logic.

Also it's pretty clear that your advice is just the advice of some immature guy who thinks having sex with the prom queen is everyone's goal. Also pretty telling of your age. Now maybe you're so pathetically desperate that you want to have sex with any girl, but personally I have some standards. I wouldn't want to be with some boring girl who didn't care for anything I did. I'm not so pathetically desperate I'd pick up an activity just to make her interested in me.

I say that your comment was stupid because it is.
Dude,

One look at your profile tells me all I need to know.

Knowing everything
Immortality
Crushing your hopes and dreams

Those are your hobbies and activities. Followed by of metaphysical bullshit about identity and power of self. And I'm the loser? Hah! Nice MSN name.
Lol? Again, I need to ask, what the hell are you smoking? My profile is a bunch of made up shit. And then you go on to take the quote of about a video game seriously? I'm not sure if you didn't realize it or you're just being childish on purpose.

I LOVE what the internet has done for people like you.
People like me? You mean the ones that make an argument instead of throwing a little tantrum like you're doing?

Words don't make it so.
Nope, but when all you have on your side is "I say so" I'm not particularly sure why you think that's much better. Well except that you're just throwing out empty rhetoric to cover your ass for having said stupid shit.

Get off your high horse on sexuality and worthiness.
I'm sorry? I'm the one actually reasoning, you're the one throwing a tantrum because I disagreed with you and I'm the one on the high horse?

You're some pariah because you're waiting for the one true girl/guy that will respect you for you? Great.
I'm a pariah? Uh no. And 'one true'? Respect me for me? Where the hell does this bullshit come from? I hope not your mouth.

No, I'm simply saying it's pathetically desperate to go after someone if they have no interests in common already. They'd be dreadfully dull if all you have in common is some made up interest for the sake of attracting them.

I will treat you the same way I treat all the Mormon virgins I come across. Get familiar with pre-nups.
Wtf?
I think at this point, it's best if we agree to disagree. We have gotten so far off the point of the original post it's dumb.

Back on topic.

I feel the only way to avoid the friendzone is by not being "friend" material. I'm not arguing against being a friend, or friendly with your mate, but if you are trying to mate with a girl, don't be the super friend. That is just my experience talking.
 

CruisingForBiddies

New member
Oct 30, 2011
195
0
0
Monoochrom said:
CruisingForBiddies said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
SaneAmongInsane said:
Be a scumbag.

No I'm serious. If you always play it nice, you'll end up screwed over.
Until your girlfriend breaks up with you because you are a scumbag. The whole "girls are attracted to proper assholes" thing is a myth. Thats true for an extreme minority. The majority will just kick you in the ass.

Trust me, I know. I have some experience when it comes to being an asshole.
I don't even agree with you there. I would like to think that I have never been an asshole or any other kind of hole for that matter, and I have been in two long term relationships with the two people I wanted to be with. And casual encounters with people that I don't. But from what I gather from the multitude of posts about 'the friend-zone', a situation that seems to be far worse than anything imaginable, is that the people writing them direct all of their affection and desire onto one person. Sure it sucks if they don't reciprocate but you can always find someone else... But I am only 17, what do I know right?
Right.

I mean, what is a ''long term relaionship'' for a 17 year old? Especially if you've had 2 of them.
Hoo boy! Totally missed the point. I was simply trying to say that being an asshole is not a good idea, especially if you genuinely aren't/ do not want to be one. And a "long term relationship" would be about a year plus, which is actually a pretty long time in the grand scheme of things.
 

Vault101

I'm in your mind fuzz
Sep 26, 2010
18,863
15
43
Bradeck said:
4. Do things that are popular. Unless you want the nerd queen, most girls don't play WoW, D&D, or Halo, and they could care less that your lvl 20 knight made it past the dragon in Dark Souls. Play a sport, join an exercise group, learn how to scuba dive, do something that is remotely interesting to the majority of women.

.
.......no fucking way

you shouldnt have to change your hobbies just for the prospect of romance..sure trying new things and having a variety of interests is good...but you shouldnt do things just for the sake of others

a girl you like doesnt like videogames? well fine...if she thinks their "stupid and for losers" then I don't know...mabye show her otherwise? she may learn somthing new..or even gain a new interest

or just tell her to go away

because people like that arnt worth your godamn time...not in this life
 

Guffe

New member
Jul 12, 2009
5,106
0
0
Drake_Dercon said:
Some backstory: About nine months ago,
Dude! Never scare me like that again!
What 30 words into the text and after "some backstory" you give me "about nine months ago...", almost had a heartattack!!!
(sory just had to -.-)

On Topic

You pretty much have to tell her how you feel about it.
Easy for me to say over the internet but it's either that or trying to find another girl.
 

Vault101

I'm in your mind fuzz
Sep 26, 2010
18,863
15
43
Mortai Gravesend said:
exactally..somone that closed mined probably isnt the kind of person you want to go out with (then again, its best not to judge people too harshly)

also





Bradeck said:
I'm gonna go have sex with the prom queen.
are you like...still in highschool? because judging by your other comments that would explain alot...
 

Vault101

I'm in your mind fuzz
Sep 26, 2010
18,863
15
43
Mortai Gravesend said:
But seriously I did kind of wonder where that came from. And I'm 23 so I'm not actually sure I'd want to get together with some prom queen. She'd be like... 18? At the very least it'd probably look a bit creepy to outsiders.
well...I think once you leave school the age difference is less of an issue..of coarse some of it does depend on where you are in life at the time

also the phrase "having sex with the prom queen" actually sounds kind of creepy to me (in that "age difference" kind of way)..amd Im only 20

I think its because I now see highschoolers as kids