So - the appeal of minecraft is?

[strigon33]

Explain to me good sir, how physical inability somehow makes me a troll, at which point I have stated anyone liking it isn't free to do so, and in which way your response is even remotely helpful?

You ask:
Why do you like Minecraft? I don't and I'd like to know.(totaly acceptable questions with reasons)
People answer:
Its a fun cheap and accesible method to create and we find it uncanilly fun probably because humans have a need to create.(totally acceptible answers that answer question and have no angst or disaproval tied to them)
You reply:
But I didn't find the game fun so those reasons are unacceptable.
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I don't really think you're meaning to troll but we answered your question and you aren't happy with it.

 

[Zannah]

You ask:
Why do you like Minecraft? I don't and I'd like to know.(totaly acceptable questions with reasons)
People answer:
Its a fun cheap and accesible method to create and we find it uncanilly fun probably because humans have a need to create.(totally acceptible answers that answer question and have no angst or disaproval tied to them)
You reply:
But I didn't find the game fun so those reasons are unacceptable.
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I don't really think you're meaning to troll but we answered your question and you aren't happy with it.

Please point out anywhere, where I've called any of the reasons given invalid, other then asking for clarification, or pointing out that I can't try the game out myself, due to the graphics?

 

[TuringTest]

He's not called them invalid as much as just completely ignored any response that doesn't lead to debating.

 

[Tarkinor]

I am not sure if it has already been posted, but in my personal opinion, the greatest appeal is the effort. In the Construction Kit, you are given everything you need to complete anything you feel like, as it is a tool. In Minecraft on the other hand, you appear in the world, not with a blank slate, but with a box of chalk at the other end of an obstacle field.

To achieve anything in Minecraft, you need to fight, explore, and really WORK for everything you want. Then, once you've obtained it, you have to put in your time and effort into actually building your personal masterpiece. Once it's all said and done and you look back at your work, no matter the graphics, it is always beautiful.

Unfortunately, it is hard to entirely understand without experiencing it personally, so I would suggest to those who do not like Minecraft, but have not played, to play the free version.

 

[demoman_chaos]

I am normally one for the simpler graphics like in Minecraft, but I really didn't like it. I like games that make you playa certain way, but I didn't like how Minecraft literally just plonks you in the middle of nowhere and that is it.

There is no reason to play Minecraft. You can build a giant doom fortress, but it is just for the sake of building a giant doom fortress. Having a giant doom fortress is no different than having a tiny sand castle gameplay wise. As long as you got a place to hide from the skely archers, zombies, spiders, and the explody guys than what difference does it make? The explodey guys are just gonna blow up whatever you made if you stand near it anyways.

If you could fight, then it may be more interesting. But you don't stand a chance against anything. Youc an kill a thing or two, but if a group of 3 or 4 archers are around, you are dead. Running away is pointless when you are just going to run into another group of things that want you dead.

 

[blha303]

Unfortunately, it is hard to entirely understand without experiencing it personally, so I would suggest to those who do not like Minecraft, but have not played, to play the free version.

Or get the single player files from a friend, as Classic gameplay doesn't really represent Minecraft very well. Sure, the building parts, but you get infinite amounts of every block. It's only 14 euros, it's going to go up to 20 euros when it's released (maybe at the end of the year?), just go for it. Sell an old game or two. It's worth it........... if that's what you're into. If you like pretty graphics and pushing doors open by hand instead of with a button, get Amnesia. Either way, they're both great games........ in their own field.

 

[Zannah]

He's not called them invalid as much as just completely ignored any response that doesn't lead to debating.

In case you were referring to me - I'm not a 'he', and what other then reading should I do with points raised, that while I don't share them, are completely valid? Debating those would mean doing what I'm wrongfully accused of, whereas all I'm doing is trying to bring people that 'don't' contribute by raising valid points back on track.

 

[CWestfall]

I've always been a fan of sandbox games, though they usually have constraints, based on things like how the world works or the reasonable amount of control a mayor or world leader (For example) can have on the world. Minecraft has no constraints; the entire world is 100% customizable. You can go out and explore the world searching out caves and cool looking mountains or whatever, you can (As Yahtzee mentioned) turn the entire continent upside down looking for materials to build your doom fortress, or if you just want to get your build on you and some friends can modhack some materials into multiplayer and go to town.

 

[Orange Lazarus]

You seem to be indicating in most of your posts that you have some sort of medical condition that prohibits you from playing games with low end graphics. It's not that intolerable. Morrowind looks pretty terrible by today's graphical standards too, but you've been able to stomach that, yes?
Anyway, the reason I like minecraft is the accessibility and versatility.

I've tried to use numerous construction sets and level editors and I've never had much success with them. I had to spend too much time learning to use the program just to build the most rudimentary things. It took me 5 minutes in minecraft to learn almost everything I needed to know. It's easy to learn, plain and simple.

And it has been said to death already, building stuff isn't the only thing to do in minecraft. I've got a world where I've built giant towers, but I've also got a world where all I've done is sail around in a boat checking out the world. I've got another one where I've spent to time finding the rare resources to make all the complex recipes.

So perhaps it's not the game for you, but I still recommend you give it a shot, just bring a bucket for all the vomit the graphics will induce.

 

[YouShouldDeleteThisAccount]

Minecraft is cool to create stuff in. But it is no fun at all. It's work. Mind numbing, time expensive work.

It was cool to explore the massive random terrain a bit. And the process of working for materials was engaging enough for a while. But eventually I just got bored, joined a friends Server, got Operator status, and then used the /give command and a whole day of my life with 2 friends to construct a massive pirate ship in a near by body of water. It's bloody epic. But I have no real interest in Minecraft after that.

Although I did recently jump on just to trap a squid in a aquarium with a sign saying "Hi. My name is Yog-Sothoth!"

No one plays Minecraft for the process and gameplay itself, they play it for the end product. Is at least my experience and witnessing of others play it.


Great game? Not really. I don't hate it or anything, in fact I like it quite a bit. But really, there's a quite a few other things that could've been done with similar tech which would've been a better game. If notch focused more on it generating interesting worlds to explore, with various things you can find, it would be one of the best exploration games ever. But I digress.

It's certainly worth the money I paid for it.

 

[Zannah]

You seem to be indicating in most of your posts that you have some sort of medical condition that prohibits you from playing games with low end graphics. It's not that intolerable. Morrowind looks pretty terrible by today's graphical standards too, but you've been able to stomach that, yes?

It's not so much my stomach as it is my eyes - I'd have trouble making out the screen, if I were to take my glasses of, and for the most part when facing older graphics, my eyes start to hurt rather quickly, and turn all red, even faster. Morrowind, and Jedi Knight Outcast where pretty much the first games I remember that were ok to play for more then short times in a row. Taking a game however, where I could hardly stand a five minute review video, and playing it for an amount of time to do such a massive game justice, seems like a quick road to a lot of pain I'd much rather avoid.

 

[ZeroMachine]

You seem to be indicating in most of your posts that you have some sort of medical condition that prohibits you from playing games with low end graphics. It's not that intolerable. Morrowind looks pretty terrible by today's graphical standards too, but you've been able to stomach that, yes?

It's not so much my stomach as it is my eyes - I'd have trouble making out the screen, if I were to take my glasses of, and for the most part when facing older graphics, my eyes start to hurt rather quickly, and turn all red, even faster. Morrowind, and Jedi Knight Outcast where pretty much the first games I remember that were ok to play for more then short times in a row. Taking a game however, where I could hardly stand a five minute review video, and playing it for an amount of time to do such a massive game justice, seems like a quick road to a lot of pain I'd much rather avoid.

I gotta say, then, I don't see the point of this thread. If the only reason you don't give it a shot is because it literally causes you physical pain, then I feel really bad for you. But your question has already been answered.

The problem is, you didn't start out with that reasoning. You pointed out earlier how you preferred the TES Editors because you could build castles and stuff with that, so you didn't see the point of making stuff in Minecraft... and even still, we answered that. In TES, you click to choose parts and place them and edit them and such. The end. In Minecraft, you... well... mine what you need and then craft everything to help you build everything.

I'm not gonna say it requires more work, because I don't know how that editor works, but what I will say is that it requires more time, dedication, and willpower. Let's say you want to make a big black castle- you need to find diamond first. It's taken me over a week to find two diamond pieces, one less than what I need to mine Obsidian, the super-durable black stone. And guess what happened? I got swarmed by skeleton archers and knocked into lava, killing me and incinerating the diamond pieces. Fucking SUCKED. Had to take a break after that >.<

So you see what it is? It isn't just a random editor. It's an adventure to build stuff using what's around you in the world. There's your answer.

Oh, and for the record, there are multiple texture packs that at the very least raise the resolution of the textures, if that helps you at all.

 

[9Darksoul6]

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The answer, as always: individual differences.

S/he's asking why the game is so massively liked, and your answer's "individuals are different from each other".

My answer: "Everybody seems to like it except you. Since you're the anomaly here, what you really should be looking at is the reason you don't like the game; it makes things way simpler."

I don't even like the game. Individual differences is just another term for personal preference. It does explain why massive amounts of people can like something and you can't. There's no need to think there's something wrong with everyone else or yourself. People are just different. Simplest answer is best in this case. Threads like this pop up constantly even when the answer is so obvious.

Despite the fact that I made some criticism, I should remind you that I was backing your side

I know threads like this pop up contantly, and I didn't say you/that guy/anyone else was wrong, I wrote he was "the anomaly" in this case (if "common" is the norm, not being common makes you an anomaly).

In my point of view, personal behavior has a very poor contribution in explaining collective behavior (although the other way around works); I know now that you don't see it like that.
I think it would be easier for people who come up with this sort of thread to focus on themselves rather than looking at everyone else to understand why most people have a different taste than them; that's all...

 

[blankedboy]

Building stuff isn't the only aspect of the game. There's shitloads of stuff to do.
Aaaaaaand I got bored of it after a month or two.

 

[Plurralbles]

i loved it until it becamse so laggy I can't play it anymore.

Tha'ts what I hate most about it. It's such an awesome thing and it finally isn't boring anymore and mods and texture packs are finally worth installing but now I can't play it.

Damn.

 

[strigon33]

I am not sure if it has already been posted, but in my personal opinion, the greatest appeal is the effort. In the Construction Kit, you are given everything you need to complete anything you feel like, as it is a tool. In Minecraft on the other hand, you appear in the world, not with a blank slate, but with a box of chalk at the other end of an obstacle field.

To achieve anything in Minecraft, you need to fight, explore, and really WORK for everything you want. Then, once you've obtained it, you have to put in your time and effort into actually building your personal masterpiece. Once it's all said and done and you look back at your work, no matter the graphics, it is always beautiful.

Unfortunately, it is hard to entirely understand without experiencing it personally, so I would suggest to those who do not like Minecraft, but have not played, to play the free version.

Also you never really know what to draw on a chalk board. You really want to but you can't think of anuthing...

 

[VondeVon]

Minecraft is the new Portal. It's becoming trendy to hate it.

If anything I was commenting on the people who tend to flock to any thread on Minecraft (or Portal) just to say how overrated they think it is, regardless of whether or not that was being discussed.

Seriously? You just can't win! If you're an early lover/hater against the crowd, you're an automatic troll. If you're a later lover/hater with the crowd, you're an automatic follower.

So the lesson is: If you have an opinion that isn't supported, shut the hell up about it or face the flames. Internet peer pressure?

No, the lesson is that you don't have to voice your hate valid personal opinion in every thread about the game.

I agree that spamming every topic remotely related to it with love or hate mail is a bad thing, but it sucks when people feel like they can't actually voice their opinion at all without getting labeled for it.

 

[Mcupobob]

This is how I feel about minecraft. Lovely game, and it just wouldn't have the charm without the simple graphics.

 

[KaosuHamoni]

If you don't like the graphics, then use a goddamned texture pack... -.-

 

[Frozengale]

Basically it comes down to simplicity and the freedom that comes with it. In a Triple A Kit you are going to be given a set of models and skins and what not that are found in the game and that is your tools. You can't change it up unless you go out and learn some 3D Modeling and port your own stuff into the kit. But at that point if all you want to do is make a cool looking world, well you can't probably do that WITHOUT a kit.

Minecraft comes down to one thing. Blocks. Blocks are simple, they don't really look like anything except a block with texture. You might say this is more limiting then a Kit but it gives you more freedom actually. There is no Pillar 1, Pillar 2, Pillar 3 models. If you want a Pillar build a freaking pillar and make it your own, you are only limited by how blocky the thing will look. For one example go onto YouTube and put in "Minecraft Mansion" you will get a load of hits and the thing is that each Mansion looks different, they each have their own way of doing beds, chairs, lighting fixture, even toilets! If you want a Fountain then build a fountain, and your fountain is going to be your own, it won't look like anyone else's fountain. If you want to build a giant robotic duck (which I have seen before) then go build it! It's not like a Triple A Kit is going to have a model for a giant robotic duck unless they are main part of the game.