So you discover that your girlfriend is transgendered.

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Lexodus

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Pararaptor said:
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Well excuse me for thinking there's a difference between a bloke who wears women's clothing and somebody who got his knob cut up and reshaped! :mad:
You know how milk & water are both liquids? Same applies here.
No need to get worked up.
Your post makes no sense. Pick a better analogy, and stop trying to tell me off. In fact, I've got one for you; there's a difference between drinking water to quench your thirst and drinking lighter fluid for the same reason. They're both liquids, right? So, by your standards, there can't be much of a difference.
Besides, there are loads of straight transvestites, f.e. Andrew O'Neill. He's even married.
 

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Lexodus said:
In all honesty, I'd probably freak the fuck out. However, from there it would differ, regarding on our relationship.
If it was a friend, after the initial freak-out, I'd come to terms with it and continue being their friend. However, if it was a girlfriend, I'd dump her/him. I am not comfortable with it at all. I'm fine with gay people, straight people, transvestites, and pretty much everything else, but this is the one thing that still freaks the shit out of me. I get that it's your body and you should have the right to do what you want, but you've gotta get that I'm probably going to end up vomiting. Believe me, if I could change my opinion, I would, but I can't.
Transvestites are transgendered too.
This proves how little on the subject you know.
Well excuse me for thinking there's a difference between a bloke who wears women's clothing and somebody who got his knob cut up and reshaped! :mad:
As somebody who is very firmly a man, as opposed to a woman in a man's body, that absolutely scares me shitless. Then again, it's the same with any cosmetic surgery.
I understand it scares you, but that's because you're male. I'm not male by any stretch of the imagination.
I'm also not a "bloke".
But there is a difference between the two.
Transvestites are usually more often than not completely heterosexual males like yourself with a penchant for dressing in women's clothing.

Transsexuals can be lesbians or straight and aren't crossdressing by any means. They are wearing the clothes that suit the way their brain is wired.
I wear female clothes because I am mentally a woman. I'm altering my physical body to match my insides. Make more sense?
-edit- Regardless, they are both transgendered, just on different wavelengths of the spectrum.
-Tabs<3-
 

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Daedalus1942 said:
Lexodus said:
Daedalus1942 said:
Lexodus said:
In all honesty, I'd probably freak the fuck out. However, from there it would differ, regarding on our relationship.
If it was a friend, after the initial freak-out, I'd come to terms with it and continue being their friend. However, if it was a girlfriend, I'd dump her/him. I am not comfortable with it at all. I'm fine with gay people, straight people, transvestites, and pretty much everything else, but this is the one thing that still freaks the shit out of me. I get that it's your body and you should have the right to do what you want, but you've gotta get that I'm probably going to end up vomiting. Believe me, if I could change my opinion, I would, but I can't.
Transvestites are transgendered too.
This proves how little on the subject you know.
Well excuse me for thinking there's a difference between a bloke who wears women's clothing and somebody who got his knob cut up and reshaped! :mad:
As somebody who is very firmly a man, as opposed to a woman in a man's body, that absolutely scares me shitless. Then again, it's the same with any cosmetic surgery.
I understand it scares you, but that's because you're male. I'm not male by any stretch of the imagination.
I'm also not a "bloke".
But there is a difference between the two.
Transvestites are usually more often than not completely heterosexual males like yourself with a penchant for dressing in women's clothing.

Transsexuals can be lesbians or straight and aren't crossdressing by any means. They are wearing the clothes that suit the way their brain is wired.
I wear female clothes because I am mentally a woman. I'm altering my physical body to match my insides. Make more sense?
-edit- Regardless, they are both transgendered, just on different wavelengths of the spectrum.
-Tabs<3-
You've just made my point exactly, and like I said, I have nothing against you doing it. As far as I'm concerned, you're a woman inside, so go ahead and make yourself a woman on the outside, but it'll still freak me out deep down. I'd never want to stop you from doing it, but the idea frightens me- or rather, it just doesn't sit well with me for a number of reasons. Also, I used the word 'bloke' because I'm English; it's just another word for dude, man, guy, etc., in the purest form, i.e somebody with a dick.
And I recognise they're both transgendered, although the level of transgender-ism (if that makes sense) makes all the difference to me. Transvestitism just looks a bit odd to me, but getting gender-correcting surgery is just too far on the scale for me to be comfortable with.
 

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Pararaptor said:
Lexodus said:
Pararaptor said:
Lexodus said:
Well excuse me for thinking there's a difference between a bloke who wears women's clothing and somebody who got his knob cut up and reshaped! :mad:
You know how milk & water are both liquids? Same applies here.
No need to get worked up.
Your post makes no sense. Pick a better analogy, and stop trying to tell me off. In fact, I've got one for you; there's a difference between drinking water to quench your thirst and drinking lighter fluid for the same reason. They're both liquids, right? So, by your standards, there can't be much of a difference.
I'm just saying Transsexuals & Transvestites both fall under the category Transgendered. Why the mad?
Because you're trying to tell me off, or coming off as such, for being okay with one thing and freaked out by the other;
Making a terrible analogy that's not even close to the point you're making;
Posting with a condescending tone.
 

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Lexodus said:
Daedalus1942 said:
Lexodus said:
Daedalus1942 said:
Lexodus said:
In all honesty, I'd probably freak the fuck out. However, from there it would differ, regarding on our relationship.
If it was a friend, after the initial freak-out, I'd come to terms with it and continue being their friend. However, if it was a girlfriend, I'd dump her/him. I am not comfortable with it at all. I'm fine with gay people, straight people, transvestites, and pretty much everything else, but this is the one thing that still freaks the shit out of me. I get that it's your body and you should have the right to do what you want, but you've gotta get that I'm probably going to end up vomiting. Believe me, if I could change my opinion, I would, but I can't.
Transvestites are transgendered too.
This proves how little on the subject you know.
Well excuse me for thinking there's a difference between a bloke who wears women's clothing and somebody who got his knob cut up and reshaped! :mad:
As somebody who is very firmly a man, as opposed to a woman in a man's body, that absolutely scares me shitless. Then again, it's the same with any cosmetic surgery.
I understand it scares you, but that's because you're male. I'm not male by any stretch of the imagination.
I'm also not a "bloke".
But there is a difference between the two.
Transvestites are usually more often than not completely heterosexual males like yourself with a penchant for dressing in women's clothing.

Transsexuals can be lesbians or straight and aren't crossdressing by any means. They are wearing the clothes that suit the way their brain is wired.
I wear female clothes because I am mentally a woman. I'm altering my physical body to match my insides. Make more sense?
-edit- Regardless, they are both transgendered, just on different wavelengths of the spectrum.
-Tabs<3-
You've just made my point exactly, and like I said, I have nothing against you doing it. As far as I'm concerned, you're a woman inside, so go ahead and make yourself a woman on the outside, but it'll still freak me out deep down. I'd never want to stop you from doing it, but the idea frightens me- or rather, it just doesn't sit well with me for a number of reasons. Also, I used the word 'bloke' because I'm English; it's just another word for dude, man, guy, etc., in the purest form, i.e somebody with a dick.
And I recognise they're both transgendered, although the level of transgender-ism (if that makes sense) makes all the difference to me. Transvestitism just looks a bit odd to me, but getting gender-correcting surgery is just too far on the scale for me to be comfortable with.
Well, you accept we're female inside, that's at least something.
It's impossible to get some people to even grasp that part even when I show them the link proving such.
You're doing well, aside from the fact you'd dump your girlfriend if you found out she was trans, but that seems to be the view of most of the free world... *sigh*
-Tabs<3-
 

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Daedalus1942 said:
Lexodus said:
Daedalus1942 said:
Lexodus said:
Daedalus1942 said:
Lexodus said:
In all honesty, I'd probably freak the fuck out. However, from there it would differ, regarding on our relationship.
If it was a friend, after the initial freak-out, I'd come to terms with it and continue being their friend. However, if it was a girlfriend, I'd dump her/him. I am not comfortable with it at all. I'm fine with gay people, straight people, transvestites, and pretty much everything else, but this is the one thing that still freaks the shit out of me. I get that it's your body and you should have the right to do what you want, but you've gotta get that I'm probably going to end up vomiting. Believe me, if I could change my opinion, I would, but I can't.
Transvestites are transgendered too.
This proves how little on the subject you know.
Well excuse me for thinking there's a difference between a bloke who wears women's clothing and somebody who got his knob cut up and reshaped! :mad:
As somebody who is very firmly a man, as opposed to a woman in a man's body, that absolutely scares me shitless. Then again, it's the same with any cosmetic surgery.
I understand it scares you, but that's because you're male. I'm not male by any stretch of the imagination.
I'm also not a "bloke".
But there is a difference between the two.
Transvestites are usually more often than not completely heterosexual males like yourself with a penchant for dressing in women's clothing.

Transsexuals can be lesbians or straight and aren't crossdressing by any means. They are wearing the clothes that suit the way their brain is wired.
I wear female clothes because I am mentally a woman. I'm altering my physical body to match my insides. Make more sense?
-edit- Regardless, they are both transgendered, just on different wavelengths of the spectrum.
-Tabs<3-
You've just made my point exactly, and like I said, I have nothing against you doing it. As far as I'm concerned, you're a woman inside, so go ahead and make yourself a woman on the outside, but it'll still freak me out deep down. I'd never want to stop you from doing it, but the idea frightens me- or rather, it just doesn't sit well with me for a number of reasons. Also, I used the word 'bloke' because I'm English; it's just another word for dude, man, guy, etc., in the purest form, i.e somebody with a dick.
And I recognise they're both transgendered, although the level of transgender-ism (if that makes sense) makes all the difference to me. Transvestitism just looks a bit odd to me, but getting gender-correcting surgery is just too far on the scale for me to be comfortable with.
Well, you accept we're female inside, that's at least something.
It's impossible to get some people to even grasp that part even when I show them the link proving such.
You're doing well, aside from the fact you'd dump your girlfriend if you found out she was trans, but that seems to be the view of most of the free world... *sigh*
-Tabs<3-
I accept that, now accept that I'm not comfortable with the idea of shoving my dick inside something that used to be a dick until it was split and chopped up. That's how I'll always see it; I accept the process and the idea behind it, but for me there will always be the roadblock of 'THIS USED TO BE A DUDE. YOU'RE FUCKING SOMEONE THAT USED TO BE A DUDE', and since I'm not gay, I don't go for that kind of thing. On top of that, even if I was bi, the idea of 'this isn't a real vagina, nor is it a real dick anymore' still wouldn't sit right with me. Also, unfortunately, a lot of people have the surgery but it only makes them look like a dude with tits and a vagina, as opposed to a woman. It really depends on how well the surgery is done, and how well the rest of the body is altered/whether it really needs to be to make them look feminine.Now, I've said my bit, you've said yours, and we've cleared up that I'm not oppressing you in any way. Try to 'correct' me into thinking differently, and you'll be the one doing that.
 

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Lexodus said:
Daedalus1942 said:
Lexodus said:
Daedalus1942 said:
Lexodus said:
Daedalus1942 said:
Lexodus said:
In all honesty, I'd probably freak the fuck out. However, from there it would differ, regarding on our relationship.
If it was a friend, after the initial freak-out, I'd come to terms with it and continue being their friend. However, if it was a girlfriend, I'd dump her/him. I am not comfortable with it at all. I'm fine with gay people, straight people, transvestites, and pretty much everything else, but this is the one thing that still freaks the shit out of me. I get that it's your body and you should have the right to do what you want, but you've gotta get that I'm probably going to end up vomiting. Believe me, if I could change my opinion, I would, but I can't.
Transvestites are transgendered too.
This proves how little on the subject you know.
Well excuse me for thinking there's a difference between a bloke who wears women's clothing and somebody who got his knob cut up and reshaped! :mad:
As somebody who is very firmly a man, as opposed to a woman in a man's body, that absolutely scares me shitless. Then again, it's the same with any cosmetic surgery.
I understand it scares you, but that's because you're male. I'm not male by any stretch of the imagination.
I'm also not a "bloke".
But there is a difference between the two.
Transvestites are usually more often than not completely heterosexual males like yourself with a penchant for dressing in women's clothing.

Transsexuals can be lesbians or straight and aren't crossdressing by any means. They are wearing the clothes that suit the way their brain is wired.
I wear female clothes because I am mentally a woman. I'm altering my physical body to match my insides. Make more sense?
-edit- Regardless, they are both transgendered, just on different wavelengths of the spectrum.
-Tabs<3-
You've just made my point exactly, and like I said, I have nothing against you doing it. As far as I'm concerned, you're a woman inside, so go ahead and make yourself a woman on the outside, but it'll still freak me out deep down. I'd never want to stop you from doing it, but the idea frightens me- or rather, it just doesn't sit well with me for a number of reasons. Also, I used the word 'bloke' because I'm English; it's just another word for dude, man, guy, etc., in the purest form, i.e somebody with a dick.
And I recognise they're both transgendered, although the level of transgender-ism (if that makes sense) makes all the difference to me. Transvestitism just looks a bit odd to me, but getting gender-correcting surgery is just too far on the scale for me to be comfortable with.
Well, you accept we're female inside, that's at least something.
It's impossible to get some people to even grasp that part even when I show them the link proving such.
You're doing well, aside from the fact you'd dump your girlfriend if you found out she was trans, but that seems to be the view of most of the free world... *sigh*
-Tabs<3-
I accept that, now accept that I'm not comfortable with the idea of shoving my dick inside something that used to be a dick until it was split and chopped up. That's how I'll always see it; I accept the process and the idea behind it, but for me there will always be the roadblock of 'THIS USED TO BE A DUDE. YOU'RE FUCKING SOMETHING THAT USED TO BE A DUDE', and since I'm not gay, I don't go for that kind of thing. On top of that, even if I was bi, the idea of 'this isn't a real vagina, nor is it a real dick anymore' still wouldn't sit right with me. Also, unfortunately, a lot of people have the surgery but it only makes them look like a dude with tits and a vagina, as opposed to a woman. It really depends on how well the surgery is done, and how well the rest of the body is altered/whether it really needs to be to make them look feminine.Now, I've said my bit, you've said yours, and we've cleared up that I'm not oppressing you in any way. Try to 'correct' me into thinking differently, and you'll be the one doing that.
I shall go back to playing Web of Shadows then.
-Tabs<3-
-edit- Also... is it at least possible for you to not call us "something" regardless of our gender, we are people... living feeling human beings.
Most people forget this and don't give a shit how we feel.
 

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I shall go back to playing Web of Shadows then.
-Tabs<3-
-edit- Also... is it at least possible for you to not call us "something" regardless of our gender, we are people... living feeling human beings.
Most people forget this and don't give a shit how we feel.
I didn't mean the 'something' as a reference to the person, merely the sexual organ. Sorry that wasn't clear, I'll edit that (^^)
 

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Lexodus said:
Daedalus1942 said:
I shall go back to playing Web of Shadows then.
-Tabs<3-
-edit- Also... is it at least possible for you to not call us "something" regardless of our gender, we are people... living feeling human beings.
Most people forget this and don't give a shit how we feel.
I didn't mean the 'something' as a reference to the person, merely the sexual organ. Sorry that wasn't clear, I'll edit that (^^)
Thank you, much appreciated.
-Tabs<3-