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TheSchizoid

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If this post came around two months later I guarantee I'd be here talking about the Green Lantern movie.
 
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ZeroMachine said:
As someone pointed out, I think you meant to quote me- and to explain, Halo's story was always praised- by fans, writers, and the creators alike- that there was only ONE canon. There were some issues, but book, comic, movie, and game were all the same universe. That's why so many fans were pissed.
I actually meant to quote silver wolf.
Silly me.
 

Kasil

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TheSchizoid said:
If this post came around two months later I guarantee I'd be here talking about the Green Lantern movie.
I dunno, the WonderCon footage looks pretty good. Here's hoping they don't just totally fuck it up.
 

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RedEyesBlackGamer said:
silver wolf009 said:
My god, Watchmen. I hated the movie. Absolutely hated it. All because I kept pointing out flaws and exaggerations (They do NOT have super strength!). And I called bullshit on the ending. Decent movie, crap adaptation (for me) that ruined it.
They had super strength in the movie?! I need to re-watch that. I loved it, and I loved the novel. The change to the ending was understandable, the ending from the book was a little weird and would have had people wtf'ing.
 

RedEyesBlackGamer

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Actual said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
silver wolf009 said:
My god, Watchmen. I hated the movie. Absolutely hated it. All because I kept pointing out flaws and exaggerations (They do NOT have super strength!). And I called bullshit on the ending. Decent movie, crap adaptation (for me) that ruined it.
They had super strength in the movie?! I need to re-watch that. I loved it, and I loved the novel. The change to the ending was understandable, the ending from the book was a little weird and would have had people wtf'ing.
I should say superhumen traits. The Rorschach and Police scene comes to mind. He sprang his ankle jumping out of the build in the comic, in the movie he landed and got up to fight again (doing more than he should have). Adrian was portrayed as having superhuman reflexes in the assassin scene. Just little inconsistencies.
 

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Dango said:
Mass Effect 2 (especially its DLC).

All the times my conversation options were limited to "being an asshole" despite choosing the Paragon path. And don't even get me started on the instances Shepard would say something completely out of character without at least giving me a chance to choose a dialog option.
While we are on that, the retcon of the way guns work. Ammo clips aren't progress, it was regressing. And why were some squad mates not wearing armor? Especially in environments exposed to Space.
That too. What I hate about that is Bioware had a chance to explain the change from Mass Effect 1's overheating to Mass Effect 2's ammo clips. I was pissed off when got picked up a weapon at the beginning of the game and said "There's no heat sync" (or something along those lines), and Miranda just told you "There's one." I was expecting some kind of explanation from Miranda on how the galaxy standard for ammunition changed to heat clips while Shepard was dead or something. Since after all a character waking up 2 years later is a perfect time to come up with any explanations you want.

And while we're on the subject, the motivation for the collectors wanting to release a plague on Omega is never explained. Ever.

And that Geth ship did have windows.
And a very, very minor plothole is navigator Pressly saying his grandfather fought in the First Contact War. Judging from his looks, I'd say Pressly is what, in his 40s? 50s maybe? Then why did his grandfather fight in the First Contact war that happened 30 years prior to the events of Mass Effect 1? That always kinda bugged me.

I have tons of ranting to do on the DLC, especially Lair of the Shadow Broker, but I'll stop for now.
 

KeyMaster45

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God of War 3. Played the first game after borrowing it from a Junior on the bus I rode in high school.(I was under 17 so I couldn't buy it at the time) Was utterly enthralled with the game and was ecstatic to hear they were making a second one.

Loved the second one and prepared myself for an epic conclusion to the trilogy in God of War 3.

Then God of War 3 came out and admittedly while it is a fantastic game the story felt extremely lacking and somewhat phoned in. What ruined it was that whole inclusion of Pandora and drawing parallels between her and Kratos' daughter. They had already dealt with that quite nicely in Chains of Olympus so rehashing it in a different context for God of War 3 took away from the overarching goal of Kratos ripping Olympus a new one.

I wanted God of War 3 to be an all out warpath against Olympus and it started out that way. It started to lose steam towards the end as they rushed to make the Pandora inclusion pay off story wise.

The labyrinth was kinda lame. The whole game they hyped up how badass a maze the thing was and that it was like Pandora's temple from the first game.

The ultimate ending of the game was probably the most satisfying part for me, once you were finally done wrapping up all the Pandora stuff and Zeus was dead.
Kratos uses the Blade of Olympus to take his own life, the only act in the entire trilogy that was not part of him being the puppet of one of the gods or the titans

It was a perfect resolution to Kratos' story, but unfortunately we had all the extra crap tacked onto it that was tossed in for the story of the 3rd game. Ultimately it ruined the experience for me and I think it was a big mistake for David Jaffe to step away from the series after the first game. The use of a different creative director on every game I feel really hurt the series more than it did help it. While the gameplay always had that iconic God of War feel to it, every story felt a little more departed from the original creative direction; and God of War 3 was the breaking point of that. The core story always remained and if they'd stuck with just that I think all the games would have been just as brilliant as the first. Instead because of the constant change in directorship we got the core story with extraneous BS tacked on that was not really needed.
 

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Halo: Reach until I learned more details about the backstory.

Anyone who hasn't read Halsey's Journal, but did read the Fall of Reach, and then played Reach, will HATE the ending.
explain?

it's not necessarily the ending or the existence of noble team that i dislike, but there is no way you can support the presence of the pillar of autumn on reach
 

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ZeroMachine said:
silver wolf009 said:
ZeroMachine said:
Halo: Reach until I learned more details about the backstory.

Anyone who hasn't read Halsey's Journal, but did read the Fall of Reach, and then played Reach, will HATE the ending.
Whats wrong with the ending? I thought that it was fine... is there something I am missing?
The end of The Fall Of Reach book and the Reach game take place at the same time... in the book, Cortana is already on the Pillar of Autumn, and the PoA doesn't stop on Reach after battle- it just instantly makes the jump to Halo.

Reach retconned that by saying that not only did the PoA dock on Reach (reasonable, a quick diversion) but Cortana was also on Reach- which would have completely RUINED the ending of the Fall of Reach.

In Halsey's Journal, though, it reveals that Cortana IS on the PoA, and only a fragment of her is on Reach studying the artifact. What Noble 6 does is reunite the fragment with her core on the PoA.

This creates 3 story fanbases. Those that have only played the games, who have a complete and whole story; those that have read all the books, the journal, and played the games, and completely understand the ENTIRE story; and those that have read the books, played the games, but not read the journal, and are left with a big "wtf?"
Thank you for that, it was really bugging me and I had just assumed they decided to do whatever they wanted with the Reach storyline its nice to know there is at least some explanation for it.
 

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The Watchmen Movie, don't get me wrong it wasn't bad but they should have kept the giant squid thing just to fuck with peoples heads. It would have been awesome.
 

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Me no i take different views of what i like
Ex:Big fan of James Bond and there are 6 of them i like all of them some more other less but i enjoy every interpretation of the character even my least favorite George Lazenby i thought that he was very interesthing but he is not my cup of tea
 

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There's probably a few, but the first that springs to mind is the Silent Hill movie. Granted it wasn't a very good movie on its own merits anyway, but all - the way - through I did not for one second stop going, "BUT THAT'S WRONG. THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. THAT'S NOT MEANT TO BE IN HERE. PYRAMID HEAD, GTFO."
 

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RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Actual said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
silver wolf009 said:
My god, Watchmen. I hated the movie. Absolutely hated it. All because I kept pointing out flaws and exaggerations (They do NOT have super strength!). And I called bullshit on the ending. Decent movie, crap adaptation (for me) that ruined it.
They had super strength in the movie?! I need to re-watch that. I loved it, and I loved the novel. The change to the ending was understandable, the ending from the book was a little weird and would have had people wtf'ing.
I should say superhumen traits. The Rorschach and Police scene comes to mind. He sprang his ankle jumping out of the build in the comic, in the movie he landed and got up to fight again (doing more than he should have). Adrian was portrayed as having superhuman reflexes in the assassin scene. Just little inconsistencies.
I actually thought that they did a very good job of adapting the comic, I felt for the most part that they stayed true to the story. The Rorschach/police scene I thought worked well, though I do agree that it worked better in the comic. But I can't see a problem with the assassin scene, given that in both the comic and the film he's fast enough to catch a bullet

OT: I can't actually think of an instance where I've had something ruined by being a fan of it. I occassionally get very hyped up abot something and it fails to live up to expectations, but it doesn't happen often and I can't think of a good example right now
 

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Revrant said:
Hopefully the fact that it's drivel, rather than some contrived hat-loss and generic character exclusion?
That too. The Pokemon may evolve but the characters sure haven't.
 

RedEyesBlackGamer

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b3nn3tt said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Actual said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
silver wolf009 said:
My god, Watchmen. I hated the movie. Absolutely hated it. All because I kept pointing out flaws and exaggerations (They do NOT have super strength!). And I called bullshit on the ending. Decent movie, crap adaptation (for me) that ruined it.
They had super strength in the movie?! I need to re-watch that. I loved it, and I loved the novel. The change to the ending was understandable, the ending from the book was a little weird and would have had people wtf'ing.
I should say superhumen traits. The Rorschach and Police scene comes to mind. He sprang his ankle jumping out of the build in the comic, in the movie he landed and got up to fight again (doing more than he should have). Adrian was portrayed as having superhuman reflexes in the assassin scene. Just little inconsistencies.
But I can't see a problem with the assassin scene, given that in both the comic and the film he's fast enough to catch a bullet
But that was what made it so dramatic. How Nite Owl expressed disbelief, something like "even you are only human". So when he actually did it, it was very dramatic. Being portrayed like that earlier in the movie diminished that.
 

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Redlin5 said:

I haven't watched the show in soooo long. There's a reason for it.
Better question is why is that picture so adorable :/

OT: I can not remember something great being ruined by myself as a fan. I know something bad was made even worse due to me being a fan(x-men 3 , Tom cruise' The war of the world(specially those to wastes of celluloid))