Something great ruined by being a fan.

[Michelle Weiss]

any movie based on a book i don't have to start saying how much they suck

 

[Brutal Peanut]

I am sure Prius, that Korean MMO, is ruined for a few people on this site now. lol

 

[natster43]

I can only think of one. The beginning to Dead Rising 2 Case West. It starts off at the end of Ending A, but for that to be, Overtime mode and the real ending of Dead Rising 2 would not have happened. But from what I know, Case West is not actually canon.

 

[mechanixis]

Mass Effect 2 (especially its DLC).

All the times my conversation options were limited to "being an asshole" despite choosing the Paragon path. And don't even get me started on the instances Shepard would say something completely out of character without at least giving me a chance to choose a dialog option.

While we are on that, the retcon of the way guns work. Ammo clips aren't progress, it was regressing. And why were some squad mates not wearing armor? Especially in environments exposed to Space.

Guh, this is what I was going to say too. Like how Cerberus is supposed to be a ruthless terrorist organization, but they never actually do anything morally questionable and instead just act super-progressive and buy you a nice ship. Or how the entire Collectors storyline is totally and completely irrelevant to the main plot of the trilogy. Or just how the sequel added extraneous glowy bits to everything, when the simplified aesthetics the technology made hard sci-fi sense in the first game.

 

[Mettking]

Smash Bros. Brawl. I got it on release, unlocked everyting worth unlocking, and haven't touched it since. Nothing was wrong with the game, it was the mentality behind it. I was the idea that you had to play it a certain way or you were dismissed as a noob. I liked the random nature and interesting stage design, but the only way I had to play it was on Final Destination, the most generic and uninteresting stage ever, and nothing else. The 3 things I can't stand put together: No items, Fox only, Final Destination. Joy, I have to use one character, play on the dullest stage, and can't do any "on the fly" stuff which is my strongest point.

 

[ChupathingyX]

Fallout 3 has already been mentioned enough so I won't say that.

What i will say, however, are the recent Crash Bandicoot and Spyro games.

Yeah you know which ones I'm talking about...them.

 

[AgDr_ODST]

Halo: Reach until I learned more details about the backstory.

Anyone who hasn't read Halsey's Journal, but did read the Fall of Reach, and then played Reach, will HATE the ending.

Whats wrong with the ending? I thought that it was fine... is there something I am missing?

The end of The Fall Of Reach book and the Reach game take place at the same time... in the book, Cortana is already on the Pillar of Autumn, and the PoA doesn't stop on Reach after battle- it just instantly makes the jump to Halo.

Reach retconned that by saying that not only did the PoA dock on Reach (reasonable, a quick diversion) but Cortana was also on Reach- which would have completely RUINED the ending of the Fall of Reach.

In Halsey's Journal, though, it reveals that Cortana IS on the PoA, and only a fragment of her is on Reach studying the artifact. What Noble 6 does is reunite the fragment with her core on the PoA.

This creates 3 story fanbases. Those that have only played the games, who have a complete and whole story; those that have read all the books, the journal, and played the games, and completely understand the ENTIRE story; and those that have read the books, played the games, but not read the journal, and are left with a big "wtf?"

not so fast there mate, I've hardly even touched much less read Halsey's journal(don't ask why...I don't know D and to me atleast it made sense....the games are Canon, while the books(entertaining and informative as they are) are not. So my understanding(prior to reading your post anyway) of the story was that Noble 6 was delivering all, not part of Cortana to Captain Keyes when he handed him 'the package'

 

[thethingthatlurks]

Silent Hill: Homecoming...oh wait "something great ruined." Well, something with a modicum of potential ruined by the audience being comprised of Silent Hill fanboys. Anyway, why pray tell was Pyramid Head in this thing, and why wasn't he an active threat? It's bloody fanservice, although instead of making all the iconic female characters take their clothes off, the lovely people at Double Helix instead included everybody's favorite serial rapist with anger management issues.

 

[Swarles]

1. X-Men Origins: When I saw Deadpool I died a little on the inside
2. Bionic Commando: Why Capcom, Why did you turn Spencer into swear machine with a wife arm
3. Watchmen: Loved the comic, LOVED it. But they messed it up with the movie.

*Edit* 4: Star Wars Clone Wars Movie: Worse than the worse parts of all the movies in the series combined. A giant Piece of Shit.

 

[emeraldrafael]

I have trouble playing NHL games. Mainly cause I do some MAJOR team building where its not even funny to play against me. Partially cause I'm a pens fan

I'll get the Sedin twins, Ovi, Crosby and Malkin, the three Staal brothers (I know there's four, but Jared is still in the minors) and just about every other great player in the NHL world and completely fuck someone's game up with a score of 20-1.

Yeah so I have problems with how stacked my team is, and how half the players couldnt function well on a team in real life.

 

[emeraldrafael]

Fallout 3 has already been mentioned enough so I won't say that.

What i will say, however, are the recent Crash Bandicoot and Spyro games.

Yeah you know which ones I'm talking about...them.

You odnt even have to be a fan, they're just bad games.

 

[William MacKay]

Actually just about every spartan was on Reach.This is stated in the Fall of Reach novel. you are right about them not mentioning Master Chief's team though. And what's wrong with Jun being there?

Jun's a new character, not one taken from the novels.

 

[Vault101]

The Akira remake

Ive never seen the original movie but you dont even need to be a fan to know the remake is going to be terrible all signs point to it

because obviously americans cant wrap their heads around the Idea that animated films can be for people other than kids (no offence to any americans out there)

 

[ZeroMachine]

Halo: Reach until I learned more details about the backstory.

Anyone who hasn't read Halsey's Journal, but did read the Fall of Reach, and then played Reach, will HATE the ending.

Whats wrong with the ending? I thought that it was fine... is there something I am missing?

The end of The Fall Of Reach book and the Reach game take place at the same time... in the book, Cortana is already on the Pillar of Autumn, and the PoA doesn't stop on Reach after battle- it just instantly makes the jump to Halo.

Reach retconned that by saying that not only did the PoA dock on Reach (reasonable, a quick diversion) but Cortana was also on Reach- which would have completely RUINED the ending of the Fall of Reach.

In Halsey's Journal, though, it reveals that Cortana IS on the PoA, and only a fragment of her is on Reach studying the artifact. What Noble 6 does is reunite the fragment with her core on the PoA.

This creates 3 story fanbases. Those that have only played the games, who have a complete and whole story; those that have read all the books, the journal, and played the games, and completely understand the ENTIRE story; and those that have read the books, played the games, but not read the journal, and are left with a big "wtf?"

not so fast there mate, I've hardly even touched much less read Halsey's journal(don't ask why...I don't know D and to me atleast it made sense....the games are Canon, while the books(entertaining and informative as they are) are not. So my understanding(prior to reading your post anyway) of the story was that Noble 6 was delivering all, not part of Cortana to Captain Keyes when he handed him 'the package'

If you didn't read the books, sure, that's what you got.

But the people handling the series said the books, comics, the short films, the anime, and the ilovebees audiodrama are, in fact, canon. Completely. Trust me on this, I know the Halo story like the back of my hand... it's my favorite universe. So that argument is invalid when it comes to the Haloverse.

 

[Vault101]

No, but I've has great things ruined by other people being fans. ¬_¬

I agree

 

[Vault101]

Mass Effect 2 (especially its DLC).

All the times my conversation options were limited to "being an asshole" despite choosing the Paragon path. And don't even get me started on the instances where Shepard would say something completely out of character without at least giving me a chance to choose a dialog option.

to be fair Im not sure this is a case of it being ruined "because youre a fan" more that there were things you didnt like in the seaqel, I mean its not like Im "not a fan" because I loved the second one better

its more like when somthing is adapted such as remakes or reboots or long awaited seaquels

for example Fallout 3, its understandable that somone wouldnt like fallout 3 because they took both sides of the wasteland conflict and turned it into "Black and white" and they didnt introduce a new enemy

however for somone like me who was unfamiliar with the fallout universe (didnt know anythign about BOS or the enclave) then it doesnt matter I enjoy the game alot more because I dont have any prior knowelge or expectations

 

[AgDr_ODST]

Halo: Reach until I learned more details about the backstory.

Anyone who hasn't read Halsey's Journal, but did read the Fall of Reach, and then played Reach, will HATE the ending.

Whats wrong with the ending? I thought that it was fine... is there something I am missing?

The end of The Fall Of Reach book and the Reach game take place at the same time... in the book, Cortana is already on the Pillar of Autumn, and the PoA doesn't stop on Reach after battle- it just instantly makes the jump to Halo.

Reach retconned that by saying that not only did the PoA dock on Reach (reasonable, a quick diversion) but Cortana was also on Reach- which would have completely RUINED the ending of the Fall of Reach.

In Halsey's Journal, though, it reveals that Cortana IS on the PoA, and only a fragment of her is on Reach studying the artifact. What Noble 6 does is reunite the fragment with her core on the PoA.

This creates 3 story fanbases. Those that have only played the games, who have a complete and whole story; those that have read all the books, the journal, and played the games, and completely understand the ENTIRE story; and those that have read the books, played the games, but not read the journal, and are left with a big "wtf?"

not so fast there mate, I've hardly even touched much less read Halsey's journal(don't ask why...I don't know D and to me atleast it made sense....the games are Canon, while the books(entertaining and informative as they are) are not. So my understanding (prior to reading your post anyway) of the story was that Noble 6 was delivering all, not part of Cortana to Captain Keyes when he handed him 'the package'

If you didn't read the books, sure, that's what you got.

But the people handling the series said the books, comics, the short films, the anime, and the ilovebees audiodrama are, in fact, canon. Completely. Trust me on this, I know the Halo story like the back of my hand... it's my favorite universe. So that argument is invalid when it comes to the Haloverse.

okay its all canon (I didn't even know that and I wasn't trying to argue fyi) regardless of that though Im in the same bout as you as far as it being my favorite Universe too. And as for the inconsistancies/retcons caused by some the books, animes, journals, games, telling different versions of the same story(the Fall of Reach) that doesn't stop me from enjoying the narrative that they all tell.(can you and I at least agree on that much?)

 

[ZeroMachine]

Halo: Reach until I learned more details about the backstory.

Anyone who hasn't read Halsey's Journal, but did read the Fall of Reach, and then played Reach, will HATE the ending.

Whats wrong with the ending? I thought that it was fine... is there something I am missing?

The end of The Fall Of Reach book and the Reach game take place at the same time... in the book, Cortana is already on the Pillar of Autumn, and the PoA doesn't stop on Reach after battle- it just instantly makes the jump to Halo.

Reach retconned that by saying that not only did the PoA dock on Reach (reasonable, a quick diversion) but Cortana was also on Reach- which would have completely RUINED the ending of the Fall of Reach.

In Halsey's Journal, though, it reveals that Cortana IS on the PoA, and only a fragment of her is on Reach studying the artifact. What Noble 6 does is reunite the fragment with her core on the PoA.

This creates 3 story fanbases. Those that have only played the games, who have a complete and whole story; those that have read all the books, the journal, and played the games, and completely understand the ENTIRE story; and those that have read the books, played the games, but not read the journal, and are left with a big "wtf?"

not so fast there mate, I've hardly even touched much less read Halsey's journal(don't ask why...I don't know D and to me atleast it made sense....the games are Canon, while the books(entertaining and informative as they are) are not. So my understanding (prior to reading your post anyway) of the story was that Noble 6 was delivering all, not part of Cortana to Captain Keyes when he handed him 'the package'

If you didn't read the books, sure, that's what you got.

But the people handling the series said the books, comics, the short films, the anime, and the ilovebees audiodrama are, in fact, canon. Completely. Trust me on this, I know the Halo story like the back of my hand... it's my favorite universe. So that argument is invalid when it comes to the Haloverse.

okay its all canon (I didn't even know that and I wasn't trying to argue fyi) regardless of that though Im in the same bout as you as far as it being my favorite Universe too. And as for the inconsistancies/retcons caused by some the books, animes, journals, games, telling different versions of the same story(the Fall of Reach) that doesn't stop me from enjoying the narrative that they all tell.(can you and I at least agree on that much?)

Oh, well yeah it's an amazing 'verse.

 

[ReservoirAngel]

Doctor Who: Christmas Carol.

Spoiler

If I wasn't a fan, I could have enjoyed it as the fun, insane adventure story that is. But BECAUSE I'm a super-fan, two words kept ringing in my mind: "Father's Day."

Basically, back in Series 1 of the New Who series, in an episode called "Father's Day", the Doctor takes Rose back to see her dad Pete on the day of his death. She saves his life, thus altering history. In simplest terms, her messing with history creates a 'wound' in time, allowing monsters called "Reapers" to appear, and 'sterilise the wound...by consuming everything inside'. They ate the world and everyone in it, essentially. The problem is only made worse when Rose causes a paradox by physically touching her younger self.

Fast-forward to Christmas 2010, and the Doctor is going back in time without a care in the world to COMPLETELY change the entire course of one guy's life. No problems occur. He then lets the kid version of this guy hug his adult self. Physical touching, yet STILL nothing happens.

I could have just enjoyed it, but everything about that just irritated me, cause the writer, Stephen Moffat (the best writer that show's had) just flies straight in the face of the established in-universe logic of the show.

 

[EvilPicnic]

Doctor Who: Christmas Carol.

Spoiler

If I wasn't a fan, I could have enjoyed it as the fun, insane adventure story that is. But BECAUSE I'm a super-fan, two words kept ringing in my mind: "Father's Day."

Basically, back in Series 1 of the New Who series, in an episode called "Father's Day", the Doctor takes Rose back to see her dad Pete on the day of his death. She saves his life, thus altering history. In simplest terms, her messing with history creates a 'wound' in time, allowing monsters called "Reapers" to appear, and 'sterilise the wound...by consuming everything inside'. They ate the world and everyone in it, essentially. The problem is only made worse when Rose causes a paradox by physically touching her younger self.

Fast-forward to Christmas 2010, and the Doctor is going back in time without a care in the world to COMPLETELY change the entire course of one guy's life. No problems occur. He then lets the kid version of this guy hug his adult self. Physical touching, yet STILL nothing happens.

I could have just enjoyed it, but everything about that just irritated me, cause the writer, Stephen Moffat (the best writer that show's had) just flies straight in the face of the established in-universe logic of the show.

I agree, but with DW canon being as loose as it is, I wouldn't worry too much.

The Blinovitch Limitation Effect gets violated all the time; in about half the episodes they stress that nothing can be changed (eg The Aztecs), but in the other half entire plots are built around changing the past (eg Genesis of the Daleks). And then there's the TARDIS's state of Temporal Grace, which seems to be on or off depending on writers' preference.

And as a fan of the Cartmel Masterplan, which imo was the best thing for DW lore since regeneration, several very important new episodes chime wrong for me because they completely contradict parts of it.

So some mental gymnastics may be necessary, but I think the best way to appreciate Doctor Who is to just not stress it and accept that things can change. Which is probably what Moffat intends anyway...