Something original for WWII games please.

[Mr.Caine]

One thing I noticed after firing up COD 2 a few days ago is that game developers seem to have very little scope in thinking up new scinarios for WW2 shooters.

Most games seem to follow the American's through France and the pacific, the Russian's through Stalingrad, and the British through North Africa, but there is so much more to World War II than this.

German campaigns. The germans had a huge deal of success and met a huge deal of resistance in the early stages of the war:
- France
- Netherlands
- Poland
- Norway
- Crete
Most of these, especially Crete, would be a fresh alternative to the run of the mill campaigns that seem to be reheated and served to us dressed up like something new.

As well as german campaigns there are many others worth looking at.
- French defence of south france from Italians.
- British troops operating in Burma
- US invasion of West Germany
- SAS in Norway
- Free French rebels

There is a whole tapestry of largely ignored events and campaigns that a games developer could jump on, and develope something truely fresh, original and interresting for the player.

ok for one the playing as the germans would be a godaweful idea because me (american), the Brits, and the Ruskies arent going to line up outside to get a game where we get to kill our countryman and fight for the idea that jews should all be tortured then killed (along with gypies, cripples, retarded people, and many many others)


most likely a studio would fuck the whole SAS and french rebel stealth up and just make it somewhat like splinter cell done except badly (i liked splinter cell all of them)

but everything else might stand a chance but when it boils down to it in a WWII game you dont care where you are or whether you are fighting in France or Italy because you are just going to killing the enemy and for me all they have to do is make interesting locations to fight and thats good enough on the creativity part

this doesnt really have anything to do with this thread but im a sniper in pretty much everygame i play so GAME MAKERS STOP MAKING US HAVE TO BE THE ONE TO ADVANCE

...wow. How ignorant can you be? Read your post carefully.


ok for one the playing as the germans would be a godaweful idea because me (american), the Brits, and the Ruskies arent going to line up outside to get a game where we get to kill our countryman and fight for the idea that jews should all be tortured then killed (along with gypies, cripples, retarded people, and many many others)

You do it ALL the time in multiplayer WWII games. Why can't you bear it in single player? Seriously. Besides, there were other factions Germany was fighting against. Regardless, there is a difference between the Wehrmacht and the SS. Not all the German soldiers were idolizing the Nazi agenda.

Anyway, If the story, game mechanics/play were solid and fluid it most defiantly could work. I stress the word could though. It would be risky (as others have noted) for any company to partake.

 

[lizards]

One thing I noticed after firing up COD 2 a few days ago is that game developers seem to have very little scope in thinking up new scinarios for WW2 shooters.

Most games seem to follow the American's through France and the pacific, the Russian's through Stalingrad, and the British through North Africa, but there is so much more to World War II than this.

German campaigns. The germans had a huge deal of success and met a huge deal of resistance in the early stages of the war:
- France
- Netherlands
- Poland
- Norway
- Crete
Most of these, especially Crete, would be a fresh alternative to the run of the mill campaigns that seem to be reheated and served to us dressed up like something new.

As well as german campaigns there are many others worth looking at.
- French defence of south france from Italians.
- British troops operating in Burma
- US invasion of West Germany
- SAS in Norway
- Free French rebels

There is a whole tapestry of largely ignored events and campaigns that a games developer could jump on, and develope something truely fresh, original and interresting for the player.

ok for one the playing as the germans would be a godaweful idea because me (american), the Brits, and the Ruskies arent going to line up outside to get a game where we get to kill our countryman and fight for the idea that jews should all be tortured then killed (along with gypies, cripples, retarded people, and many many others)


most likely a studio would fuck the whole SAS and french rebel stealth up and just make it somewhat like splinter cell done except badly (i liked splinter cell all of them)

but everything else might stand a chance but when it boils down to it in a WWII game you dont care where you are or whether you are fighting in France or Italy because you are just going to killing the enemy and for me all they have to do is make interesting locations to fight and thats good enough on the creativity part

this doesnt really have anything to do with this thread but im a sniper in pretty much everygame i play so GAME MAKERS STOP MAKING US HAVE TO BE THE ONE TO ADVANCE

...wow. How ignorant can you be? Read your post carefully.


ok for one the playing as the germans would be a godaweful idea because me (american), the Brits, and the Ruskies arent going to line up outside to get a game where we get to kill our countryman and fight for the idea that jews should all be tortured then killed (along with gypies, cripples, retarded people, and many many others)

You do it ALL the time in multiplayer WWII games. Why can't you bear it in single player? Seriously. Besides, there were other factions Germany was fighting against. Regardless, there is a difference between the Wehrmacht and the SS. Not all the German soldiers were idolizing the Nazi agenda.

Anyway, If the story, game mechanics/play were solid and fluid it most defiantly could work. I stress the word could though. It would be risky (as others have noted) for any company to partake.

well by your statement about the wehr and the SS by that notion if i were told to go and kill a bunch of people then i would be excused because it wasnt me who wanted to i was just told to

and the multiplayer thing is just completely invalid

 

[Shoqiyqa]

Or alternatively, throw in vampires and demons with the Nazis. Oh wait, I guess people already did that one. [http://pc.ign.com/objects/802/802866.html]

Also in Return to Castle Wolfenstein, which is only worth playing through if you're slightly drunk and laughing at them a lot.

{accent="German"}Return at once to Castle{/accent} {accent="American"}Wulf Un Stine{/accent}.

"Who are you?"
"I serve you!" *kneels*
*stares*ZAP*
"AAAaaarrrggghhh!!!" *dies*

"Ah, agent Blaskowicz, is it? You are an impressive specimen."
*enters room wearing the remnants of three flak jackets and two helmets and carrying twenty-five grenades, five blocks of dynamite, a rocket launcher, two sniper rifles, a paratrooper assault rifle, two sub-machine-guns, four pistols, a flamethrower and the (7.92mm or 12.7mm, some conflicting info in-game) chaingun with which he's just blown away a cybernetically-enhanced nine-foot zombie while running forwards, plus lots of ammunition for them all*

Impressive specimen, indeed!

 

[Mr.Caine]

One thing I noticed after firing up COD 2 a few days ago is that game developers seem to have very little scope in thinking up new scinarios for WW2 shooters.

Most games seem to follow the American's through France and the pacific, the Russian's through Stalingrad, and the British through North Africa, but there is so much more to World War II than this.

German campaigns. The germans had a huge deal of success and met a huge deal of resistance in the early stages of the war:
- France
- Netherlands
- Poland
- Norway
- Crete
Most of these, especially Crete, would be a fresh alternative to the run of the mill campaigns that seem to be reheated and served to us dressed up like something new.

As well as german campaigns there are many others worth looking at.
- French defence of south france from Italians.
- British troops operating in Burma
- US invasion of West Germany
- SAS in Norway
- Free French rebels

There is a whole tapestry of largely ignored events and campaigns that a games developer could jump on, and develope something truely fresh, original and interresting for the player.

ok for one the playing as the germans would be a godaweful idea because me (american), the Brits, and the Ruskies arent going to line up outside to get a game where we get to kill our countryman and fight for the idea that jews should all be tortured then killed (along with gypies, cripples, retarded people, and many many others)


most likely a studio would fuck the whole SAS and french rebel stealth up and just make it somewhat like splinter cell done except badly (i liked splinter cell all of them)

but everything else might stand a chance but when it boils down to it in a WWII game you dont care where you are or whether you are fighting in France or Italy because you are just going to killing the enemy and for me all they have to do is make interesting locations to fight and thats good enough on the creativity part

this doesnt really have anything to do with this thread but im a sniper in pretty much everygame i play so GAME MAKERS STOP MAKING US HAVE TO BE THE ONE TO ADVANCE

...wow. How ignorant can you be? Read your post carefully.


ok for one the playing as the germans would be a godaweful idea because me (american), the Brits, and the Ruskies arent going to line up outside to get a game where we get to kill our countryman and fight for the idea that jews should all be tortured then killed (along with gypies, cripples, retarded people, and many many others)

You do it ALL the time in multiplayer WWII games. Why can't you bear it in single player? Seriously. Besides, there were other factions Germany was fighting against. Regardless, there is a difference between the Wehrmacht and the SS. Not all the German soldiers were idolizing the Nazi agenda.

Anyway, If the story, game mechanics/play were solid and fluid it most defiantly could work. I stress the word could though. It would be risky (as others have noted) for any company to partake.

well by your statement about the wehr and the SS by that notion if i were told to go and kill a bunch of people then i would be excused because it wasnt me who wanted to i was just told to

and the multiplayer thing is just completely invalid

You're in the army. You follow orders. Right? Not every German agreed with Adolf and the agenda? You understand this, correct? Don't drag a nation down because of one mans ideals. (...)The Multiplayer isn't invalid because if you take the story out of a game, it's "Kill these guys, ok? No questions asked about it". And if you boil down some FPS games, it's basically that.

ok for one the playing as the germans would be a godaweful idea because me (american), the Brits, and the Ruskies arent going to line up outside to get a game where we get to kill our countryman

I am pretty sure Japan, Germany etc have played WW2 games as the allies. Now I'll agree sometimes the enemies are stereotypical and plain ridiculous. However, if it's done correctly and realistically I think it would work in a game.

 

[SsilverR]

I'm waiting for a POW / Concentration Camp Escape game.

Or one from the point of view of a German soldier. Not an evil Nazi, but a guy just doing his job in the army to keep food on the table for his wife and child.

beat me to it ... i always wanted one that shows a more human side to german forces ... also maybe a mini game of football ... the one from the temporary christmas truce between these english an german platoons that just wanted to enjoy xmas

and would the "torture a jew" mini game be going a little too far?

 

[lizards]

One thing I noticed after firing up COD 2 a few days ago is that game developers seem to have very little scope in thinking up new scinarios for WW2 shooters.

Most games seem to follow the American's through France and the pacific, the Russian's through Stalingrad, and the British through North Africa, but there is so much more to World War II than this.

German campaigns. The germans had a huge deal of success and met a huge deal of resistance in the early stages of the war:
- France
- Netherlands
- Poland
- Norway
- Crete
Most of these, especially Crete, would be a fresh alternative to the run of the mill campaigns that seem to be reheated and served to us dressed up like something new.

As well as german campaigns there are many others worth looking at.
- French defence of south france from Italians.
- British troops operating in Burma
- US invasion of West Germany
- SAS in Norway
- Free French rebels

There is a whole tapestry of largely ignored events and campaigns that a games developer could jump on, and develope something truely fresh, original and interresting for the player.

ok for one the playing as the germans would be a godaweful idea because me (american), the Brits, and the Ruskies arent going to line up outside to get a game where we get to kill our countryman and fight for the idea that jews should all be tortured then killed (along with gypies, cripples, retarded people, and many many others)


most likely a studio would fuck the whole SAS and french rebel stealth up and just make it somewhat like splinter cell done except badly (i liked splinter cell all of them)

but everything else might stand a chance but when it boils down to it in a WWII game you dont care where you are or whether you are fighting in France or Italy because you are just going to killing the enemy and for me all they have to do is make interesting locations to fight and thats good enough on the creativity part

this doesnt really have anything to do with this thread but im a sniper in pretty much everygame i play so GAME MAKERS STOP MAKING US HAVE TO BE THE ONE TO ADVANCE

...wow. How ignorant can you be? Read your post carefully.


ok for one the playing as the germans would be a godaweful idea because me (american), the Brits, and the Ruskies arent going to line up outside to get a game where we get to kill our countryman and fight for the idea that jews should all be tortured then killed (along with gypies, cripples, retarded people, and many many others)

You do it ALL the time in multiplayer WWII games. Why can't you bear it in single player? Seriously. Besides, there were other factions Germany was fighting against. Regardless, there is a difference between the Wehrmacht and the SS. Not all the German soldiers were idolizing the Nazi agenda.

Anyway, If the story, game mechanics/play were solid and fluid it most defiantly could work. I stress the word could though. It would be risky (as others have noted) for any company to partake.

well by your statement about the wehr and the SS by that notion if i were told to go and kill a bunch of people then i would be excused because it wasnt me who wanted to i was just told to

and the multiplayer thing is just completely invalid

You're in the army. You follow orders. Right? Not every German agreed with Adolf and the agenda? You understand this, correct? Don't drag a nation down because of one mans ideals. (...)The Multiplayer isn't invalid because if you take the story out of a game, it's "Kill these guys, ok? No questions asked about it". And if you boil down some FPS games, it's basically that.

ok for one the playing as the germans would be a godaweful idea because me (american), the Brits, and the Ruskies arent going to line up outside to get a game where we get to kill our countryman

I am pretty sure Japan, Germany etc have played WW2 games as the allies. Now I'll agree sometimes the enemies are stereotypical and plain ridiculous. However, if it's done correctly and realistically I think it would work in a game.

well now you are just making shit up, you cant just say "forget about the story" because its their its the reason you are killing those guys on the other side of the battlefield and if you blindly follow the orders of "go kill and take jews away from their homes" then you maybe arent evil but your a fucking idoit and either way they still are fighting for the idea of the man

and the people in Japan and Germany dont care anymore because im very doubtful that WWII vets are playing them and that the ideals they were fighting for are now being considered dumb and or evil as in Germany i hear that the government isnt to fond of people talking about nazis their and in Japan they have transformed into a very non-war and productive nation and when we are playing as the allies we are fighting for the same ideal that they were so yet again

your arguement is invalid

 

[Mr.Caine]

One thing I noticed after firing up COD 2 a few days ago is that game developers seem to have very little scope in thinking up new scinarios for WW2 shooters.

Most games seem to follow the American's through France and the pacific, the Russian's through Stalingrad, and the British through North Africa, but there is so much more to World War II than this.

German campaigns. The germans had a huge deal of success and met a huge deal of resistance in the early stages of the war:
- France
- Netherlands
- Poland
- Norway
- Crete
Most of these, especially Crete, would be a fresh alternative to the run of the mill campaigns that seem to be reheated and served to us dressed up like something new.

As well as german campaigns there are many others worth looking at.
- French defence of south france from Italians.
- British troops operating in Burma
- US invasion of West Germany
- SAS in Norway
- Free French rebels

There is a whole tapestry of largely ignored events and campaigns that a games developer could jump on, and develope something truely fresh, original and interresting for the player.

ok for one the playing as the germans would be a godaweful idea because me (american), the Brits, and the Ruskies arent going to line up outside to get a game where we get to kill our countryman and fight for the idea that jews should all be tortured then killed (along with gypies, cripples, retarded people, and many many others)


most likely a studio would fuck the whole SAS and french rebel stealth up and just make it somewhat like splinter cell done except badly (i liked splinter cell all of them)

but everything else might stand a chance but when it boils down to it in a WWII game you dont care where you are or whether you are fighting in France or Italy because you are just going to killing the enemy and for me all they have to do is make interesting locations to fight and thats good enough on the creativity part

this doesnt really have anything to do with this thread but im a sniper in pretty much everygame i play so GAME MAKERS STOP MAKING US HAVE TO BE THE ONE TO ADVANCE

...wow. How ignorant can you be? Read your post carefully.


ok for one the playing as the germans would be a godaweful idea because me (american), the Brits, and the Ruskies arent going to line up outside to get a game where we get to kill our countryman and fight for the idea that jews should all be tortured then killed (along with gypies, cripples, retarded people, and many many others)

You do it ALL the time in multiplayer WWII games. Why can't you bear it in single player? Seriously. Besides, there were other factions Germany was fighting against. Regardless, there is a difference between the Wehrmacht and the SS. Not all the German soldiers were idolizing the Nazi agenda.

Anyway, If the story, game mechanics/play were solid and fluid it most defiantly could work. I stress the word could though. It would be risky (as others have noted) for any company to partake.

well by your statement about the wehr and the SS by that notion if i were told to go and kill a bunch of people then i would be excused because it wasnt me who wanted to i was just told to

and the multiplayer thing is just completely invalid

You're in the army. You follow orders. Right? Not every German agreed with Adolf and the agenda? You understand this, correct? Don't drag a nation down because of one mans ideals. (...)The Multiplayer isn't invalid because if you take the story out of a game, it's "Kill these guys, ok? No questions asked about it". And if you boil down some FPS games, it's basically that.

ok for one the playing as the germans would be a godaweful idea because me (american), the Brits, and the Ruskies arent going to line up outside to get a game where we get to kill our countryman

I am pretty sure Japan, Germany etc have played WW2 games as the allies. Now I'll agree sometimes the enemies are stereotypical and plain ridiculous. However, if it's done correctly and realistically I think it would work in a game.

well now you are just making shit up, you cant just say "forget about the story" because its their its the reason you are killing those guys on the other side of the battlefield and if you blindly follow the orders of "go kill and take jews away from their homes" then you maybe arent evil but your a fucking idoit and either way they still are fighting for the idea of the man

and the people in Japan and Germany dont care anymore because im very doubtful that WWII vets are playing them and that the ideals they were fighting for are now being considered dumb and or evil as in Germany i hear that the government isnt to fond of people talking about nazis their and in Japan they have transformed into a very non-war and productive nation and when we are playing as the allies we are fighting for the same ideal that they were so yet again

your arguement is invalid

What am I making up? Stop talking about the Nazis. I'm not talking about Ideologies, I'm talking about the Wehrmacht. The discussion of this thread was about the possibilities of playing as the Axis. When was the last time you played a WWII game that involved liberating the Jewish people? Most WWII games involve crippling the Axis war machine, not liberating and saving the world. Please be civil as well, I'm not hurling insults at you.

EDIT: Come to think about it, many WWII RTS games allow you to play as the AXIS. They don't receive a lot of controversy.

 

[FinalHeart95]

I'm waiting for a POW / Concentration Camp Escape game.

I've been slowly developing ideas for this kind of game in my mind for what seems like forever now. But with a TWIST!! (story-wise anyway)

 

[lizards]

One thing I noticed after firing up COD 2 a few days ago is that game developers seem to have very little scope in thinking up new scinarios for WW2 shooters.

Most games seem to follow the American's through France and the pacific, the Russian's through Stalingrad, and the British through North Africa, but there is so much more to World War II than this.

German campaigns. The germans had a huge deal of success and met a huge deal of resistance in the early stages of the war:
- France
- Netherlands
- Poland
- Norway
- Crete
Most of these, especially Crete, would be a fresh alternative to the run of the mill campaigns that seem to be reheated and served to us dressed up like something new.

As well as german campaigns there are many others worth looking at.
- French defence of south france from Italians.
- British troops operating in Burma
- US invasion of West Germany
- SAS in Norway
- Free French rebels

There is a whole tapestry of largely ignored events and campaigns that a games developer could jump on, and develope something truely fresh, original and interresting for the player.

ok for one the playing as the germans would be a godaweful idea because me (american), the Brits, and the Ruskies arent going to line up outside to get a game where we get to kill our countryman and fight for the idea that jews should all be tortured then killed (along with gypies, cripples, retarded people, and many many others)


most likely a studio would fuck the whole SAS and french rebel stealth up and just make it somewhat like splinter cell done except badly (i liked splinter cell all of them)

but everything else might stand a chance but when it boils down to it in a WWII game you dont care where you are or whether you are fighting in France or Italy because you are just going to killing the enemy and for me all they have to do is make interesting locations to fight and thats good enough on the creativity part

this doesnt really have anything to do with this thread but im a sniper in pretty much everygame i play so GAME MAKERS STOP MAKING US HAVE TO BE THE ONE TO ADVANCE

...wow. How ignorant can you be? Read your post carefully.


ok for one the playing as the germans would be a godaweful idea because me (american), the Brits, and the Ruskies arent going to line up outside to get a game where we get to kill our countryman and fight for the idea that jews should all be tortured then killed (along with gypies, cripples, retarded people, and many many others)

You do it ALL the time in multiplayer WWII games. Why can't you bear it in single player? Seriously. Besides, there were other factions Germany was fighting against. Regardless, there is a difference between the Wehrmacht and the SS. Not all the German soldiers were idolizing the Nazi agenda.

Anyway, If the story, game mechanics/play were solid and fluid it most defiantly could work. I stress the word could though. It would be risky (as others have noted) for any company to partake.

well by your statement about the wehr and the SS by that notion if i were told to go and kill a bunch of people then i would be excused because it wasnt me who wanted to i was just told to

and the multiplayer thing is just completely invalid

You're in the army. You follow orders. Right? Not every German agreed with Adolf and the agenda? You understand this, correct? Don't drag a nation down because of one mans ideals. (...)The Multiplayer isn't invalid because if you take the story out of a game, it's "Kill these guys, ok? No questions asked about it". And if you boil down some FPS games, it's basically that.

ok for one the playing as the germans would be a godaweful idea because me (american), the Brits, and the Ruskies arent going to line up outside to get a game where we get to kill our countryman

I am pretty sure Japan, Germany etc have played WW2 games as the allies. Now I'll agree sometimes the enemies are stereotypical and plain ridiculous. However, if it's done correctly and realistically I think it would work in a game.

well now you are just making shit up, you cant just say "forget about the story" because its their its the reason you are killing those guys on the other side of the battlefield and if you blindly follow the orders of "go kill and take jews away from their homes" then you maybe arent evil but your a fucking idoit and either way they still are fighting for the idea of the man

and the people in Japan and Germany dont care anymore because im very doubtful that WWII vets are playing them and that the ideals they were fighting for are now being considered dumb and or evil as in Germany i hear that the government isnt to fond of people talking about nazis their and in Japan they have transformed into a very non-war and productive nation and when we are playing as the allies we are fighting for the same ideal that they were so yet again

your arguement is invalid

What am I making up? Stop talking about the Nazis. I'm not talking about Ideologies, I'm talking about the Wehrmacht. The discussion of this thread was about the possibilities of playing as the Axis. When was the last time you played a WWII game that involved liberating the Jewish people? Most WWII games involve crippling the Axis war machine, not liberating and saving the world. Please be civil as well, I'm not hurling insults at you.

EDIT: Come to think about it, many WWII RTS games allow you to play as the AXIS. They don't receive a lot of controversy.

you are making up ideas that would change a WWII game into something that is LIKE WWII but ISNT you cant make a war game with a story then just decide to forget about that wars REAL reasons

and apparently you cant read because as i said you cant fight for a the idea of "jews need to die" and be excluded and that goes for everything not just WWII

i dont get what you mean by saying that most WWII games make you "When was the last time you played a WWII game that involved liberating the Jewish people? Most WWII games involve crippling the Axis war machine, not liberating and saving the world." because last time i checked when Germany was defeated they had in some terms "saved the world"

 

[FinalGamer]

How about a WWI game, with a terrible ending that leaves you completely unsatisfied and feeling so useless, just like in the actual war.

 

[Valkyira]

I'm waiting for a POW / Concentration Camp Escape game.

Aint one already?

The Great Escape or something?

Isn't that a film?
I haven't heard of a game yet.

they did a great escape game for ps2 and there is another quite good one called prisoner of war i think

 

[SnowCold]

I have an original idea, but it's kinda of stupied and not compleatly WW2
In the near/far future, when time travel is possible, but so new, that it was only used once to traval 5 minutes back, some nazi activests break into the lad with the machine and use it to re-wirte history, and make the nazis win.
The player plays an american/british/whatever solider in WW2, already in germen borders, just near the end of the war, when he suddently sees the nazis are getting odd weaponry, like modern guns, and maybe even tanks (the time travelers brought blue-prints or something, IDK).
The game play will be based on using your weak yet large squad the beat the powerful nazis.

Basicly, WW2 on acid.

 

[dragoon47]

Me and my "colleagues" are working an idea like this, where you play as the Germans throughout the campaign, but I'm afraid that Tripwire will top anything we come up with in Red Orchestra II's German SP campaign. I'd really need a lot of support for this, because I don't want to spend my time typing out a storyline and script that I'm just gonna throw into the garbage 3 months from now.

 

[jackbriggs18]

I think if a games developer sold a game campaign from a German army perspective, purely on the grounds of military conquest and didn't involve the politics behind such conquest, it would be such a bad move. In fact, it could be used as an opportunity to show the conditions an average German soldier faced, without resorting to the basic ignorant idea that all german soldiers were evil.
Games managed to brush over the various attrocities acted out by the British, American and Russian's to a greater or lesser extent to focus on a more personal level of soldiery, but such treatment hasn't been granted to German soldiery, which i think feeds the stereotype that all the Nazi armies were full of jew murdering social darwinist's bent on world conquest.

 

[YuheJi]

What about a game where you play a Chinese soldier in the Sino-Japanese War? Or based on the French rebels (which would be pretty interesting, actually).

 

[Bigeyez]

I'm waiting for a POW / Concentration Camp Escape game.

Aint one already?

The Great Escape or something?

Isn't that a film?
I haven't heard of a game yet.

Yeah there was a game on that too...pretty old...uh I wanna say last generation.

Edit:whoops someone beat me to it.

 

[Casbahthegrey]

I think that we need a WWII game that doesn't make the character you play into some invincible hero, look at COD: A minute of heavy breathing and ducking behind some planks that shouldn't work as cover anyway and your fine. We need a WWII game where you are honestly scared to be shot because it will effect the rest of the game: BAM! shot in the leg, there goes 20% of your movement speed. BAM! Oh noes forgot your helmet and lost your ear no more sound out of the right speaker. WWII was hell and millions died, games should reflect that, you shouldn't want to jump over the lip of the trench or run up the fire step, I want a game that makes you wait for artillery support or makes you genuinely fear a German tank rush.
Developers always bang on about realism, lets see some.

 

[quiet_samurai]

How about a WWII game where you play as a Nazi soldier?

Play through the game in the eyes of the enemy and see what the soldiers were going through, and whether they had a choice.

If they ever announced that, it would be shut and shot down faster then hell. Interesting idea, but i don't think the world is ready for that yet.