Sony Slams Wii, 360 For Offering Less Value Than PS3

[jebussaves88]

I think it's arrogance on Sony's part. They've led the console wars longer than either Nintendo or Sega (11 years Sony, and anything beween 1988 and 1995 was basically squabbling beween the two Japanese companies). They've been sitting pretty for a good long while atop their might sales figures. However, if a newcomer like Sony could unravel one of the major two rival hardware companies (being Sega), then Sony really need to start seeing Microsoft as genuine competition.
I think neither are worried that their target audience is abandoning them to Nintendo (although many may make that purchase also, as I plan to do when they're under £100), but at least Microsoft are taking Sony seriously, despite the lead they have. They know Sony are the most popular brand amongst their target demographic, and know that their lead could easily be swept off, and work towards pushing that eventuality at least further into the future. Sony just seems to think it can sit and wait, and things will happen for it. If they want to win against Microsoft, they're gonna have to pull something major out of the hat.

 

[Logan Westbrook]

And people do buy those Add-ons, at the very least a Wireless Router. I should know I have plenty of friends with 360's and a brother with one. I feel qualified to talk about something I've played.

Conversely, I have plenty of friends who don't use a wireless router. Which of us is right I wonder?

 

[BlueMage]

As long as PS3 and 360 exist the two consoles have to constantly compete against each other for the public's money. This means that the two companies will always try to out do each other by creating better consoles, better hardware, better exclusives, so on and so forth. Competition causes evolution. So who ultimately wins? The consumer. So to all the people who wish downfall upon the system they do not own, please take a course in economics.

You realise of course that Sony have just raped that entire concept re: multimedia formats. Ain't monopolies a beautiful thing?

I don't understand, Blu-Ray isn't going to the 360, if you mean it winning the format war, that happened a long time ago to, I.E. Betamix losing to VHS, it still allows for the growth of evolution.

As for the consoles? The next generation will be better, I simply believe that based on competition, of course the reverse could happen and all consoles go the way of the Wii (I mean Shovelware Gallore not that there aren't good games)

Still let it be a contest.

*shrugs* it will pay off for the consumer with quality.

Small problem with that theory. Sony now control the next prime medium for data, movie and game storage - blu-ray. They own it. You want to create a device that can handle blu-ray? Licensing fees to Sony please. You want to commercially release something on blu-ray? Licensing fees to Sony please.

They've got us by the balls now, and when DVD dies, we're going to be stuck with blu-ray for a very long time, because Sony are going to do all in their power to crush any potential competition, stifiling evolution and strangling the market.

 

[bad rider]

Omni, don't waste your breath. Every fanboy clings to the backwards notion that crappy graphics, over-simplified gameplay and constantly re-hashed storylines make the best games.

How come all of your posts seem like they have this intention of shit stirring. Everyone of your posts seem to look to agitate someone without being particularly informative?

 

[BlueMage]

As long as PS3 and 360 exist the two consoles have to constantly compete against each other for the public's money. This means that the two companies will always try to out do each other by creating better consoles, better hardware, better exclusives, so on and so forth. Competition causes evolution. So who ultimately wins? The consumer. So to all the people who wish downfall upon the system they do not own, please take a course in economics.

You realise of course that Sony have just raped that entire concept re: multimedia formats. Ain't monopolies a beautiful thing?

I don't understand, Blu-Ray isn't going to the 360, if you mean it winning the format war, that happened a long time ago to, I.E. Betamix losing to VHS, it still allows for the growth of evolution.

As for the consoles? The next generation will be better, I simply believe that based on competition, of course the reverse could happen and all consoles go the way of the Wii (I mean Shovelware Gallore not that there aren't good games)

Still let it be a contest.

*shrugs* it will pay off for the consumer with quality.

Small problem with that theory. Sony now control the next prime medium for data, movie and game storage - blu-ray. They own it. You want to create a device that can handle blu-ray? Licensing fees to Sony please. You want to commercially release something on blu-ray? Licensing fees to Sony please.

They've got us by the balls now, and when DVD dies, we're going to be stuck with blu-ray for a very long time, because Sony are going to do all in their power to crush any potential competition, stifiling evolution and strangling the market.

...Well that sucks doesn't it. Wait... has any company ever 'Owned' a format before? is this unprecedented? You can probably make a case against it because it has no competitor... I think.

They developed the format, they own the Intellectual Property rights to it. And given Sony's track record, I find it highly unlikely they're going to make it an open standard. Which means, anyone who wants to use their format must license it from them. Hell, if they want to go so far, anyone who wants to VIEW what's on their format must license that right from them. You don't own those blu-ray discs - you just have a license to view the content.

 

[ward.]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA...

Ahahahah...

BWAHAHAHA...

Sony, sony, sony... When will you ever learn?

Learn what exactly?

You know I remember people giving them the same shit with the PS2.

That may be true, but you have to admit, the chart does seem a little like sour grapes. Nothing on it is untrue, but you don't see anyone else doing it, or I certainly haven't.

No body else has had too, it's no secret that sony's poor marketing has hurt it and very few people are aware of what you get.
Infact there are still gamestore empoyees that don't know the sony network is free, people still believe it has no games, etc.

...Well that sucks doesn't it. Wait... has any company ever 'Owned' a format before? is this unprecedented? You can probably make a case against it because it has no competitor... I think.

It won't work exactly like that but sony's quick strike to end the format war before it took off and cost them millions in the long run was a good move.

What they've done is take all the money they made from the PS2 and spend it on something that will end the console war after this one, how is microsofts next console going to compete with the PS3, short answer is, it can't.

 

[jebussaves88]

What they've done is take all the money they made from the PS2 and spend it on something that will end the console war after this one, how is microsofts next console going to compete with the PS3, short answer is, it can't.

Well, the Wii is managing OK and isn't even getting involved in the whole multimedia thing. What MS could do is invent some new form of disc for games alone (I hear there are Tetrabyte sized discs on the way), and just use a download service for movies and the like. I barely use my 360 for movies anyway.

 

[MrGFunk]

If PS3 continue to stick to there guns theres a good chance they'll murg or disappear from the next console generation altogether.

You really believe that Sony will disappear from making consoles? You are an idiot and have lost your privilege to post.

This, considering what I'm about to do, is an ironic post.

This is hilarious. Good job.

V-Otix misquoted me and insulted me. I didn't bite. I pointed out his error, he apologized but the guy still can't help himself from getting banned by insulting everyone else. Pity...

*snip - great post* If they want to win against Microsoft, they're gonna have to pull something major out of the hat.

Excellent point and well made but I think Sony do see Microsoft as competition (they must). Sony's advertising has been sparse. I think they have been disregarding Microsoft's clout and M$ have run riot with their media coverage. Exclusive to Xbox all over everything, (er, no it's not) why is Sony letting them do this?

Hopefully, this and their recent increased advertisment is them recognising they wont be gifted the audience they think they, and do, deserve.

I hate to see Sony getting bad press. It seems overzealous to not think the PS3 is a great machine with loads of great games.

 

[ward.]

What they've done is take all the money they made from the PS2 and spend it on something that will end the console war after this one, how is microsofts next console going to compete with the PS3, short answer is, it can't.

Well, the Wii is managing OK and isn't even getting involved in the whole multimedia thing. What MS could do is invent some new form of disc for games alone (I hear there are Tetrabyte sized discs on the way), and just use a download service for movies and the like. I barely use my 360 for movies anyway.

Indeed, I think even nintendo didn't forsee how well the wii could do though, what sonys mistake there was is not trying to throw the PS2 back into the ring against it (before anyone says it, yes I know they still sell PS2s cheaper then Wii's but they havn't produced any new games for it ).

The problem for microsoft with inventing a new thing or system (as sega discovered with the dream cast) is that without long term backing of a well selling product (the 360 doesn't sell that well and is plagued with design faults) is that there's nothing to carry you through the low times.

 

[Knight Templar]

If PS3 continue to stick to there guns theres a good chance they'll murg or disappear from the next console generation altogether.

You really believe that Sony will disappear from making consoles? You are an idiot and have lost your privilege to post.

Isn't sony still running at a loss (or close to it) with the PS3?

I remember reading that on Game politics (or something to that extent), so sony going out of the console race sega style isn't impossable. Just not likely.

EDIT: Damm, wanted to reply to what was said but couldn't as it was a blocked post.

 

[Cid Silverwing]

Ooooooo, Sony is taunting their competitors.