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Sony Slams Wii, 360 For Offering Less Value Than PS3
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Dear Sony:
I feel the need to inform you that I am uninterested in the product you are offering to me at this time. The inclusion of Blu-Ray technology is simply not a selling point for me, and I have little interest in your largest exclusive series, namely Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy. I am not gifted with the patience to find the difference between a Blu-Ray disc and an ordinary DVD, and a great many of your titles are not exclusive to your system.
I have seen the latest in Sony's endeavors into a unified online service (Home), and I am utterly disinterested in this latest iteration of your product. Perhaps some additional work and changes will improve it, so best of luck in your efforts here.
I will not be buying a PS3 at this time.
Signed,
51gunner.
I feel the need to inform you that I am uninterested in the product you are offering to me at this time. The inclusion of Blu-Ray technology is simply not a selling point for me, and I have little interest in your largest exclusive series, namely Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy. I am not gifted with the patience to find the difference between a Blu-Ray disc and an ordinary DVD, and a great many of your titles are not exclusive to your system.
I have seen the latest in Sony's endeavors into a unified online service (Home), and I am utterly disinterested in this latest iteration of your product. Perhaps some additional work and changes will improve it, so best of luck in your efforts here.
I will not be buying a PS3 at this time.
Signed,
51gunner.
this is the worst PR laden bullshit I've ever heard since the Eidos Tomb Raider UnderWorld Reviews thing. Why is Blu Ray even listed there? Wii is just game console, and the 360 doesn't exactly have the infrastructure to support it. And why hold wi-fi in such hi regard? a wired connection is in my opinion a much more faster and stable method. and you can still attain HD with an arcade. you just need component cables. that's it. Why is HDMI output even listed then? Just say HD output or something.
The fact that they sell the PS3 at a loss means nothing in terms of whether or not Sony are greedy. Almost all consoles are initially sold at a loss so that they are more attractive to consumers.Onmi said:
For reference though, the PS3 currently costs around $450 to make. Sony are hoping to break even with manufacturing costs soon.
I found LBP to be pointless and therefore...not fun...Indigo_Dingo said:
I have all three systems and I definitely would not have a PS3 if I didn't win mine. I'll definitely admit I had fun with Resistance and Ratchet and Clank but...there's nothing else that interests me for the system.
I played Home today for the first time...that was an Epic Fail...No matter what Sony does to it, it's always going to be 20 guys attacking that one female in the room....and she's probably a guy, by the way...
No. I would not buy a PS3 for the price of an Xbox360. I wouldn't buy it until it was $100 and came with the entire Resistance series.-V- Otix said:
Blu-Ray isn't a big enough advance for me to care about it. In fact, I've started to move away from physical media. I haven't bought an actual dvd in the past three years. Everything has come from iTunes.
And to clear things up, I'm not an anti-sony fanboy. I loved my PS1 and my PS2. The PS3 just seams like a giant waste of life to me.
Really? Everything I've heard about the sixaxis has been pretty negative.
I wouldn't say that Sony are greedy, or certainly no greedier than any other multi-national corporation, but the problem they face is that by packing all these features in, their manufacturing costs remain high and so they have limited movement on their retail price. When they finally break even with their costs, they're still going to have the most expensive console on the market, unless they are willing to continue making a loss and bring the retail cost down.
What you have to remember in discussions like these is that our viewpoint on the issue is skewed somewhat by the weight of knowledge we possess. Even as an Xbox 360 owner, I'll freely admit that the PS3 is an impressive piece of hardware, but the average consumer simply doesn't care about that. They see the price and that's about it.
I wouldn't say that Sony are greedy, or certainly no greedier than any other multi-national corporation, but the problem they face is that by packing all these features in, their manufacturing costs remain high and so they have limited movement on their retail price. When they finally break even with their costs, they're still going to have the most expensive console on the market, unless they are willing to continue making a loss and bring the retail cost down.
What you have to remember in discussions like these is that our viewpoint on the issue is skewed somewhat by the weight of knowledge we possess. Even as an Xbox 360 owner, I'll freely admit that the PS3 is an impressive piece of hardware, but the average consumer simply doesn't care about that. They see the price and that's about it.
It's on and off about it's "goodness". In some games it's alright, some it's a pointless addon, but really people are complaining for an option thing the developers can choose to use. Some people find it easier to use the SixaxiS than the buttons. The Wiimote and SixaxiS are about the same in motion control.nilcypher said:
Fanboi. Yes, you are... that, or the point sailed majestically over your head and ruffled narry a hair for some other lack of aptitude.-V- Otix said:
I had to choose only one of the three consoles out of budget concerns, and let me tell you I didn't decide based on teraflops or HDMI output or hi-def storage; I chose based on the games each supported. As a died-in-the-wool Halo fan, my choice was simple. (Simplified further because I was pretty sure there'd be room for me in the Halo 3 beta test.) Choice of games is a very personal thing; me, I have trouble understanding why people are willing to sit through MGS4's extensive downtime or play LoZ by making wanking gestures, but if that's their thing I don't have an issue with their choice.
Blu-ray is a limited draw for the general public, because many (me included) don't have TVs that would bring out BR's advantages; most people have screens too small to be worth displaying at 1080p, or have 720p or lower resolution screens, or have upscaling DVD players at less than a quarter the price of a PS3, or simply aren't interested in having a home theatre. So trumpeting Blu-ray isn't going to grab any sales from those already leaning to the 360 or Wii... my critique isn't that Blu-Ray is worthless, just that Sony is wasting their time (time that they don't really have, given the recession we're in) hammering away on this point.
As to whether the Arcade games included with MS's base model are worth it or not, certainly they're worth more than the zero games you get bundled with the PS3.
-- Steve
This table doesn't necessarily show that much, it may show that the PS3 is better when you buy it, but in the long run, it might not be. Don't get me wrong, i LOVE my PS3, i think its the best 5 trillion pound plastic truck in my house, but it does seem like Sony needs to change. Lower prices sure seem to help, but do what Wal-mart does and go SUPER low, and then raise your prices once you are the King of Console Hill.
I'm wondering how you could consider Sony to be the 'winners'? Not that I'm disparaging Sony, but Nintendo and Microsoft have both sold more consoles.Onmi said:
As for the 'breaking even vs console sales' question, if I were Sony, I'd be aiming for both. Don't forget that Sony make money of each game that is sold, which is why they can afford to sell the PS3 at a loss in the first place.
Given that I'm a consumer in their most targeted demographic, yes, they care. Maybe not about my singular opinion, but opinions are rarely singular. There's bound to be countless others out there that feel the same way I do about the product.-V- Otix said: