Sony Slams Wii, 360 For Offering Less Value Than PS3

[Baby Tea]

, it also comes with something a PS3 does not: HD cables. Last I checked, and I could be wrong, PS3s do NOT come with HD cables, and you have to buy them separately.

They do only cost £5 max.

I know they aren't expensive (Unless you're buying an HDMI cable), but that's not the point! They say you get more for a PS3 out of the box, but you don't even get HD! Out of the box, the blue-Ray player is useless/pointless. They Slam the 360 for not having 'features' out of the box, when they are guilty of the same thing.
That's my point.

 

[Aardvark]

Release more exclusives that aren't a pile of meh and people might sit up and take notice.

 

[klc0100]

, it also comes with something a PS3 does not: HD cables. Last I checked, and I could be wrong, PS3s do NOT come with HD cables, and you have to buy them separately.

They do only cost £5 max.

I know they aren't expensive (Unless you're buying an HDMI cable), but that's not the point! They say you get more for a PS3 out of the box, but you don't even get HD! Out of the box, the blue-Ray player is useless/pointless. They Slam the 360 for not having 'features' out of the box, when they are guilty of the same thing.
That's my point.

But HD cables really are just an accessory you can still play fine without them you cant really compare not having HD cables to not having WI-FI or free online play.
and the Blu-Ray player is hardly useless.

 

[joystickjunki3]

Value = Very Yes
Desired Titles = Very No

Whats it like living in mid 2007? I bet you're really anxious to know who will be the next American president.

Come on, he's right. He said "desired," and that word can mean different things to different people. All of the titles on the PS3 I'd want to play are rentals. Good rentals, but that's it.

EDIT: But that doesn't mean that the PS3 is a bad choice for everyone.

How can you rent LittleBigPlanet?

by going to your local blockbuster and picking it up for 9.99 and keeping it for a month, leaving you with a 1.99 restocking fee. By that time I would assume the novelty to have worn off, and new games entering your "want to play" list.

You could say the exact same thing about any game in the history of man.

I think that was the whole point, though. We all have the games that we prefer to others and would rather own than rent. One yours obviously seems to be Little Big Planet.

, it also comes with something a PS3 does not: HD cables. Last I checked, and I could be wrong, PS3s do NOT come with HD cables, and you have to buy them separately.

They do only cost £5 max.

I know they aren't expensive (Unless you're buying an HDMI cable), but that's not the point! They say you get more for a PS3 out of the box, but you don't even get HD! Out of the box, the blue-Ray player is useless/pointless. They Slam the 360 for not having 'features' out of the box, when they are guilty of the same thing.
That's my point.

But HD cables really are just an accessory you can still play fine without them you cant really compare not having HD cables to not having WI-FI or free online play.
and the Blu-Ray player is hardly useless.

He said "out-of-the-box" and he's right. W/o HD cables, the HiDef experience that is supposed to be BluRay is pretty much useless. Sure you get more space on the discs for games, but the 360 seems to be doing just fine w/ the dual-layer DVDs.

 

[milomalo]

, it also comes with something a PS3 does not: HD cables. Last I checked, and I could be wrong, PS3s do NOT come with HD cables, and you have to buy them separately.

They do only cost £5 max.

I know they aren't expensive (Unless you're buying an HDMI cable), but that's not the point! They say you get more for a PS3 out of the box, but you don't even get HD! Out of the box, the blue-Ray player is useless/pointless. They Slam the 360 for not having 'features' out of the box, when they are guilty of the same thing.
That's my point.

well if you have a hdtv you will have at least 1 HDMI cable at least 1, and if you buy a ps3 well i dont know!! you can use it! well at least i dont have to worry about having gremlins in my console, good afternoon

 

[Knight Templar]

" Not avalible in earlier models "?

If Sony wants to pull that trick then I get to ignore this year and say sony has zero worthy games next to Wii/360, plus they run at a loss for sony.

But I wouldn't say that because it's stupid, like saying you are better when sales show we don't care.

 

[Limos]

*sigh*

Oh Sony, you poor clueless bastards.

I play the Wii, I don't play the 360, and I sure as hell do not plan on ever buying a PS3. Not only do you not have a single title that interests me in the slightest bit. You cost more than the other two systems! I don't have an HDTV, so BluRay looks exactly the same as DVD to me. My TV isn't High def, so it doesn't matter what I hook up to it, that won't be high def either.

All this shit you are trying to tell me makes you the better value is all shit I DON'T WANT.

 

[BlueMage]

It's completely reasonable - if Sony is NOT OFFERING WHAT I WANT, who cares if their product is technically superior? Hell, I'll be the first to state their product is technically superior. BUT IT IS NOT WHAT I WANT.

 

[Aardvark]

Once again, we have this curious affliction that seems to keep people trapped in a time period a year and a half ago. Perhaps the most fascinating part is these people seem to be able to communicate with modern humans.

Fine then, fancy pants. Once Sony manage to release a number of exclusives that actually pique the interest of the average Wii/360 player, then maybe, just maybe, they'll see an uptake in console purchases.

At least they can always sit back and say, "We're big in Japan".

 

[jdnoth]

For all the add ons I would have needed to connect an xbox360 to my hdtv, use a hard drive and connect to my wireless network, It probably would have come to about the same price as my ps3. Aside from the hdmi cable, I got everything I needed for my ps3 in the box(LBP!!!). Not to say however, that there aren't people with no interest in a hard drive, 1080p graphics, blu ray or wifi. And of course for them, large parts of the Ps3 would have been no more than expensive, useless, plastic clutter. But you can't fault it for it's simplicity. I took out my ps3 and thanks to the built in wifi and free psn, I jumped straight into online gaming within a few minutes of connecting to my network. When I have enough money I will probably buy an Xbox too. But for now, this is much better suited to my interests.

 

[DarthKaos666]

First thing is look at the sales numbers. There was a good article yesterday with some discussion about it too. Basically the PS3 has sold more units than the Xbox 360 did when it was as old as the PS3. The Wii is a run away success but anyone I talk to that does not have younger kids says that the lack of quality content makes it strictly a bowling machine for when company is over.

The next hammer to fall will be that Sony's cost to produce the PS3 will come down. When that happens the price will come down for consumers. There is a very substantial base of PS2 users waiting for this. The PS3 also has a great 2009 line up of exclusive games plus prior system selling exclusives are coming down in price.

The question mark is this: Will the PS3 really be able to produce games that can not be duplicated on other systems? If the exclusives being released can demonstrate that the PS3 is the most powerful console, the price gets dropped, and PS2 owners jump in, developers will swing back to concentrating on maximizing the power of the PS3. At that point what does MS do? If they release a new system to match the PS3, it will cost the same or more. Why not just get the PS3. It will have an established selection of games and it is a complete entertainment device. Plus with MS's track record of systems that fail, confidence will be low in the beginning.

I see why Sony is saying what it is saying and I also can see a strategy for the future. It all hinges on the first party games demonstrating the power of the PS3.

 

[milomalo]

*sigh*

Oh Sony, you poor clueless bastards.

I play the Wii, I don't play the 360, and I sure as hell do not plan on ever buying a PS3. Not only do you not have a single title that interests me in the slightest bit. You cost more than the other two systems! I don't have an HDTV, so BluRay looks exactly the same as DVD to me. My TV isn't High def, so it doesn't matter what I hook up to it, that won't be high def either.

All this shit you are trying to tell me makes you the better value is all shit I DON'T WANT.

so just be clear to me pleaseeee! who is the clueless? you whit your regular(old)tv and your wii? or my self whit my ps3 and my hdtv? i guess sony because if you make a good product and if you are charging only production cost for the console you made making barely no money but being good to me "the costumer" i guess they deserve to die, unlike Microsoft and nintendo the ones who charge twice for a piece of half as graphic card and 1 gaming central processor put in some plastic that melt after a while... and besides making you pay to play online... well i feel sorry for me.

 

[jdnoth]

Also, Jesus Christ look at all the fanboys.

Would you all go back to the IGN forums pls.

 

[cikame]

Xbox360's come with headsets, thats an additional purchase for the ps3, controllers with vibration, thats an additional purchase for the ps3.

If you want a keyboard you can now buy that small bluetooth keyboard for the ps3, thats an accessory that adds clutter. You can't say that your console produces less clutter due to less accessories, when clutter is directly proportionate to how many accessories the user wants, and in the case of the 360 and Wii, they have alot of choice.

But thats all side babble, the key differences between the ps3 and the 360 are their games, 80% are on both so that doesn't matter too much, the ps3 has exclusives like Resident ev...no, um, Tekke... oh dear, its ok though they might still have Virtua.... nevermind.

Ace Comba... this isn't working, yes i'm a fan of Metal Gear Solid but i'm not buying a ps3 for one game, Killzone's shaping up to be a good first person shooter, like Perfect Dark Zero, which has been available on the 360 for years.

I'm not the head of a successful international company so i'm not even going to pretend i know what sony should be doing differently, i think its past it now, developers will keep making games for the 360 till Microsoft brings a new one out, and if sony are still playing the "ps3 has more lasting value" card when that happens, then Xbox won't only have the biggest most exclusive back catalog of games but it will also be more powerful than the PS3, then they can rule the galaxy in a tortoise shaped spaceship with a big golden smiley on it.

 

[huntedannoyed]

You can use numbers to prove anything that is remotely true. I just know that my PS3 is little more than a dvd player to me.

 

[Phyroxis]

For all of you catastrophizing and saying the PS3 is going to kill Sony, I say BS. This company is a Goliath and will not go down with one turn of a market cycle. They're still selling consoles and games so its not like they're totally sunk. I predict a flip next gen in Sony's favor.

The media format is Blu-Ray and it'll be more accepted over time as the general consuming populace start going bat shit crazy for Hi-Def. Right now, of course, its not happening in no small part to the economic downturn.. However on the end of every recession there is a spike upwards and when people start riding that they'll see disposable cash as a godsend and something that should be burnt at every corner. Hi-Def will be everywhere and the top line, biggest muscle, console will be out the doors at top speed.

Sony produces quality hardware, this is a fact. Just look at brick rates of the two. (I'm leaving Wii out of this as its a totally different demographic) Most of the consumers I know and have worked with like to do research before purchasing a product, when they find out M$ has a history of bricking consoles and Sony has a history of solid machines (this is ignoring titles, as of now..I'll get to it) they will see an obvious bonus. Sony will also have been involved with Blu-Ray development longer (they created it) and it will no longer be a "whats that?" concept to most people.

As for titles, thats what Sony needs to work on. They, in their quest for uber hardware greatness, neglected one of the most important things for game consoles... the games. As long as they can get back in the game, pardon the pun, they'll be a big contender.

This is an awkward cycle for game consoles, its the first HD generation and there are some big growing pains that have been associated with it. It'll be interesting to see what happens in the coming years.

 

[Limos]

*sigh*

Oh Sony, you poor clueless bastards.

I play the Wii, I don't play the 360, and I sure as hell do not plan on ever buying a PS3. Not only do you not have a single title that interests me in the slightest bit. You cost more than the other two systems! I don't have an HDTV, so BluRay looks exactly the same as DVD to me. My TV isn't High def, so it doesn't matter what I hook up to it, that won't be high def either.

All this shit you are trying to tell me makes you the better value is all shit I DON'T WANT.

so just be clear to me pleaseeee! who is the clueless? you whit your regular(old)tv and your wii? or my self whit my ps3 and my hdtv? i guess sony because if you make a good product and if you are charging only production cost for the console you made making barely no money but being good to me "the costumer" i guess they deserve to die, unlike Microsoft and nintendo the ones who charge twice for a piece of half as graphic card and 1 gaming central processor put in some plastic that melt after a while... and besides making you pay to play online... well i feel sorry for me.

Sony is clueless for putting so much stress on High Definition. Most people don't have HighDef TVs. Personally I can't see the difference between my normal TV and my friends HDTV. It looks basically the same.

I don't own any BluRay movies, and I don't plan on buying any bluray movies. So why the hell would I need or want a BluRay player?

The Wii has already CURBSTOMPED the 360 and PS3. The 360 has managed to get back on it's feet and is recovering. The PS3 is just sitting on the ground and whining at us about how much better it is (despite having been throughouly curbstomped) and hemmoraging customers like it's going out of style.