Spartan Vs Astartes

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Mathak

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SckizoBoy said:
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At least it wasn't GK vs SoB.
I've been waiting for an SoB update for a while, but I fear what they'll do to it (esp the characters) after the latest few. I'm actually dreading the second coming of Necrons!
Didn't Matt Ward take care of that in the BA codex? 'And then the BA's and Necrons fought off the Tyranids together. And after, they each went their own way cause they were tired off fighting, and they lived happily ever after!'

Talk about aneurysm-inducing fluff.
 

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On the other hand i believe Master Chief vs a Space Marine is a pure Spartan win.

why? the Chief is onyl special in that hes a good leader and hes lucky every now and then, but he cant luck the SM into suddenly imploding
Well universe wise its like letting Batman lose against a Super Human,...its just not cool :D So he`d win....you get the GW guys and Halo creators to team up and write a Astartes vs Spartans fight M.Chief will whooop some ass :D
 

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Is there actually ANYTHING outside the WH40K universe that could beat an Astartes? As in, from an other game?
ask a star wars fan, he will give you an encyclopaedia of all the ways star wars beats everything..... despite the second bigger badder death star with no exposed ..exhaust port was beaten by ewoks.
Ask a fan anything about his fandom vs another and you will get a biased opinion.
true as i stated in my other post, i bet a die hard care-bear fan would be able to construct a scenario where a car-bear would win against an astartes or even the death star
 

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Chief given his entire arsenal (choice from anything in the Halo series) could probably take out some of them. But not every Astartes is equal in physical strength and combat ability.

Chief with only an assault rifle, pistol and an energy sword? Chief dies a horrible death as a mangled mess of organs and metal.

Then since people were bringing up super weapons like orbital bombardments and MAC rounds, I pose my own ultimate weapon. Chief activates the Halo rings (this assumes he met them before he stopped the Halo ring threat), and now every space marine is dead, then again so is the Chief... alright... we'll call it a draw.
 

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Mathak said:
Didn't Matt Ward take care of that in the BA codex? 'And then the BA's and Necrons fought off the Tyranids together. And after, they each went their own way cause they were tired off fighting, and they lived happily ever after!'

Talk about aneurysm-inducing fluff.
*rushes to get BA codex*

Hmmm *currently leafing through it*, a couple bits of vs Necrons & vs Tyranids with Eldar, no necron cooperation far as I can tell. Anyway, one thing I kept wanting to rage against Matt Ward for was 'deep-striking Land Raiders'. Why, Matt, why?

PS I like Phil Kelly, so guess where I stand!
 

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chief, no matter what or who you throw at him , he will beat it the reason?
Luck.
What if an exterminatus was performed on the planet he was on?

Or if you want to have a luck vs luck fight then the Imperium could send Ciaphas Cain to deal with Master Chief.
 

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Seeing as they're both humans defending their species from evil aliens and the like, I think they wouldn't fight but team up.
erh... the spartans might wanna team up, but dont count on the space marines holding hands with anyone... hell there are some instances of the space marines fighting against the imperial guard, and destroying entire worlds populated by their own civilians.
 

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i've got my SM codex right infront of me guys so if you need any info I'm here lol. Any way Im going to have to go with the SM. Some info about the initiation programme you need to go through to be a SM.
" Each battle brother of the Adeptus Astartes is a champion, a hero of a hundred campaigns. even before their transformation from man to superhuman they are the bravest and most promising scions of their worlds, most hailing from fierce warrior cultures on the deadliest death worlds. When a Chaper select a potential recruit for training they acceot a new son into their family, and it is fitting, therefore, that they take the greatest care in his selection. Each chapter selects recruits in its own way, be it by competition, scrutiny under adversity or the most sacred rituals."
"These Neophytes are subject to the most careful observation and rigorous testing before they can even begin their training. The Chapter Apothecaries examine their flesh down to the cellilar level to ensure that they are free of the taint of the mutaion and strong enough to survive the training."
" over a period of years, the neophyte receives each of the biological implants that will transform him beyond the pinnacle of human potential into a Space Marine battle brother"
" As a Neophyte receices the Chapters gene-seed, his skeletal structure is inscreased in size and strength, and his muscle growth greatly enchanced. He is implanted with a secondary hearth and superior lungs that enable him to survive wounds that would kill a normal human man thrice over. His blood is enhanced by organs that allow him to ingest poison without harm, filter his body of toxins and clot his wounds in an instant. Other organs allow his senses to be made preternaturally sharp or resist the effects if radiation... a Space Marine is implanted with the progenoid glands, organs that are repository of his genetic make-up"
 

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SckizoBoy said:
Mathak said:
Didn't Matt Ward take care of that in the BA codex? 'And then the BA's and Necrons fought off the Tyranids together. And after, they each went their own way cause they were tired off fighting, and they lived happily ever after!'

Talk about aneurysm-inducing fluff.
*rushes to get BA codex*

Hmmm *currently leafing through it*, a couple bits of vs Necrons & vs Tyranids with Eldar, no necron cooperation far as I can tell. Anyway, one thing I kept wanting to rage against Matt Ward for was 'deep-striking Land Raiders'. Why, Matt, why?

PS I like Phil Kelly, so guess where I stand!
Haven't read it myself, but i hear it's page 16.

Personally i just want Alessio Cavatore back..or Andy Chambers.
 

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He might be one of the Sensi also know as the Sons of the emperor woh have no warp presence and thus scare warp monsters and can live in the warp and not go insane. Emperor may have been capable of such feats if he hadn't been crippled by Horus who was his equal
First of all, Horus was not the Emperors equal. He was close, but the only reason he managed to hurt the Emperor was because the Emperor was holding back. If we're gonna get all fanboyish in this thread, we should do it right.

Second, I don't care if he's the Emperor & all the Primarchs fused into one super-being, he still wouldn't be able to pull off the shit that guy did.

Being a Sensei would help, but it's still not enough.

I mean come on. Punched Tzeentch's City into rubble? PUNCHED? BY HIMSELF? The lore writers went way overboard on this one.
 

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The only people who are arguing for the Chief here don't understand what a 40k Space Marine is. That universe is so unrelentingly ridiculous that there's nothing from any other universe that could stand any kind of chance.

There's nothing Chief has that can get through Astartes armour. Even if he did, a Space Marine is stronger, faster, better equipped, better modified and far more experienced. In any kind of fight, Master Chief loses. Even if he's in a Scorpion and the Marine just has his armour, Chief loses.
 

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Are we talking the balanced 40k Table Top model Space Marine? Or the admittedly awesome yet ridiculously overpowered Space Marines of the Warhammer 40k fluff which makes them (and pretty much every unit except Imperial Guardsmen) living gods amongst men?

If it's the balanced option, in the parameters you specified the Space Marine would win without question in a firefight, a normal assault rifle is a flash light compared to a bolter. In hand to hand however I think they'd be on even footing. I reckon an energy blade could pierce a Marines armour and like wise a chain sword could gut a Spartan. The Spartan could probably be more effective at range if they were allowed to bring some of their heavier weapons to bear, like the Spartan Laser, Rocket Launcher etc.

If it's according to the fluff one Space Marine could single handedly defeat the Spartans, UNSC, Covenant and Flood while taking time out to commit a one man exterminatus on all the planets he passes and finish by punching out Cthullu.
nah, in the fluff a space marine would only wipe out one planet, and then get glassed. remember that the only reason the covenant win in halo, whenever the spartans are there, is because they have superior fleets. anywhere there are spartans the ground war is always a close call with ungodly losses, or a loss.
seriously, in the fluff ive read, i only remember one spartan dying as a direct result of ground combat. oh wait, 2. no 3, but one was a spartan 3 who took a hunter shot point blank to save another, and one was another spartan 3 who almost killed said hunter in hand to hand combat, but i cant remember how he died. and the final one was the first one, the very first ground encounter with covenant, and a grunt got a lucky needler shot which pierced his suit. wouldn't have been a problem but they had no way to escape the ship they were blowing up without going into vacuum.
 

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Everybody keeps saying that Spartans are more agile because the Astartes armour is so bulky.

Have you people not seen the Ultramarines movie? They're leaping over ruins like goddamn Spider-Man.
Spartans more agile my arse.
 

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Mathak said:
Haven't read it myself, but i hear it's page 16.

Personally i just want Alessio Cavatore back..or Andy Chambers.
*sob* Fuck... me...

Oh yeah, Alessio, haven't heard from him in a long while. This whole thread (OK, this conversation, at any rate) has now left me somewhat jaded. I will thus look for Golden Daemon entries to make myself feel better.

OT: I'll call it a draw based on everything I've seen... excuse me while I go look at awesome miniatures & paint jobs.
 

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Astartes. They have (In some cases) Centuries of Combat Experience, have incredibly thick Armor, a gun that explodes once inside of you and a Handheld-Vertical Chainsaw. Absolutely no contest.
 

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A better, or at least more enjoyable match-up?

Master Chief vs Ciaphas Cain (HERO OF THE IMPERIUM!)
That's a match MC can't luck his way out of; if the chief is supermaturally lucky, Ciaphas is a bloody abomination of luck-based proportions.