Star Trek Vs Star Wars

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mattttherman3

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Well first off don't bloody flame each other alright.

I like Star Trek better, for the simple reason that it seems slightly more realistic, although Humanity would probably not be the head of a Federation of Planets, more like the aliens from Independance Day(movie). And at least Star Trek is taking a chance by going back in time, don't mess with the classics some will say, well what possible harm could that do? I really don't like the original series because of the fact that i grew up with The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, and Voyager, Enterprise was sweet(except that bloody opening credits music).

Star Wars is always the same, always always always, you look at the Empire under darth sideous and then you look at the republic from KOTOR, there is not that much of a difference here people, except for swords, because people will use a sword instead of a laser pistol. Plus theres the whole force thing, nice thought but it will never happen, same thing goes with light sabers. My opinion on remaking the original series: Wait until Lucas is dead, then go for it.
 

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Star wars fan myself, if only because I liked Star Wars Episode 1 Racer so much.
 

mattttherman3

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Pohlkat said:
Star wars fan myself, if only because I liked Star Wars Episode 1 Racer so much.
Wow, lol i hated that game, that game was BULL, Now Rougue Squadren, that was fun
 

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b) I know this because I've been most of these, that show up every two or so months, over and over again. you would know this two if you used the search button
 

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Anyone who says Trek is a traitor to the Republic! That being said...LIGHTEN UP! It's "science FICTION". I like trek but it is nothing compared to the awesomeness that is starwars...

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Gxas

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Um, I'm going to throw out the apples to oranges argument here and be done with it.
 

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Kukul said:
Ok I wanted to say "please not this thread again" but I think I am genuinely curious how would someone defend such a piece of shit that Star Trek is. I couldn't stand a single episode. It's boring, it has no atmosphere, it has shitty actors and retarded plot. How could anyone possibly be a fan of such a dumb series, please enlighten me.
I am sorry but Patrick Stewart could kick Mark Hamills arse, how do i know this? Patrick Stewart has been in more movies and can do voice overs other than Mark Hamill(only does himself and luke skywalker)


and by the way, the last thread of this on this website that i found(using the key words Star Trek vs Star Wars) was in august. I believe that Star Wars is better for gaming but I could see Star Trek happening in the distant future. Star Trek tends to make people think more rather than "use the force" for everything.
 

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mattttherman3 said:
I am sorry but Patrick Stewart could kick Mark Hamills arse, how do i know this? Patrick Stewart has been in more movies and can do voice overs other than Mark Hamill(only does himself and luke skywalker)
That is where you are wrong. Mark Hamil also did the voice for The Joker in Batman the Animated Series (the best Joker ever). That alone makes him better than Stewart (in my opinion)

Anyway, I never liked Star Trek, and have always been a bit of a Star Wars fanboy.
 

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rottenbutter said:
mattttherman3 said:
I am sorry but Patrick Stewart could kick Mark Hamills arse, how do i know this? Patrick Stewart has been in more movies and can do voice overs other than Mark Hamill(only does himself and luke skywalker)
That is where you are wrong. Mark Hamil also did the voice for The Joker in Batman the Animated Series (the best Joker ever). That alone makes him better than Stewart (in my opinion)

Anyway, I never liked Star Trek, and have always been a bit of a Star Wars fanboy.
I never knew that he was The Joker. That's awesome. But Star Wars wins!. Think about it. Storm Trooper vs. Red Shirt. Who dies? The red shirt. They always die.
 

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Gxas said:
Um, I'm going to throw out the apples to oranges argument here and be done with it.
Thank you. Star Wars is action, Star Trek is drama.
 

DuncanRR

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Is it a crime to like 'em both equally?

If I have to pick which one's deeper, I'd have to go with Star Trek. The only real underlying theme of the Star Wars saga is Anakin's corruption and redemption. The great thing about Trek is that it deals with a lot of issues, and the characters are developed beyond Joseph Campbell archetypes.

EDIT: My personal favorite Star Trek series is TNG, because that's the one I grew up watching. The original series is just as deep most of the time, but it shows it's age...

PPS: I'm one of a handful of people who actually liked Episode III, bloated CGI fest though it may be...
 

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mattttherman3 said:
I am sorry but Patrick Stewart could kick Mark Hamills arse, how do i know this? Patrick Stewart has been in more movies and can do voice overs other than Mark Hamill(only does himself and luke skywalker)
I know someone's already commented on this, but I just thought you should know that Mark Hamill's post-Star Wars career has been 99.9% voice acting. Don't believe me? Check out his resume: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000434/

EDIT: But yeah, Patrick Stewart kicks Mark Hamill's ass.
 

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I've always been a huge fan of the original star trek series and I enjoyed the original 3 Star Wars. I found the newest three to be shallow and boring...except for the Yoda fight scenes.

I am looking forward to the new ST movie. It actually looks like what ST movies should have been from the start.
 

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I'm gonna add a third option just to be snobby and say Dr. Who > Star Trek/Wars.
 

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I like them both, but watching both the Star Wars movies and some Star Trek stuff again recently, I'd say I prefer Star Trek.

It's more credible, you can actually believe a lot of the stuff that's going on'there. First off, characters are actual characters with some depth to them, of which there isn't a single one on Star Wars.
Second, the makers of Star Trek actually give a rat's ass about the SCIENCE in Science Fiction - actually, they kind of put it there in the first place. Nevermind the techno bubble taking over in the more recent installations of the franchise (and the mind bending 60s-ness of the original show), next to Star Trek, Star Wars looks like the fantasy of a six-year-old made up on a rainy afternoon.

It does have its strengths, however. Star Wars has an extremely well done mythology, giving you goosebumps while watching in a way Star Trek never could - although it gave much of that away over the time in exchange for Ewoks, babbling idiots and an irrelevant "Trade Federation" with French accents to please the 6-year-old moron demographic.

That said, I recently discovered that it's impossible to watch even the original Star Wars movies with a straight face. The last time I did, i couldn't stop wondering when the plot holes would merge to a giant improbability black hole that would swallow up the Star Wars universe, my TV and pretty much everything with it.

So, Star Trek wins.
 

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Star Wars, hands down! Although, my current gf would beg to differ...she's such a nerd! :)
 

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Star Wars is absolutely NOT science fiction. It's fantasy, though Lucas seems to have tried to make it a little more sci-fi by explaining the Force with midichlorians (I can't believe I know how to spell that). Star Wars is all about mysticism and magic with some standard mythological archetypes thrown in. Don't get me wrong, I prefer SW to Trek any day, but I don't think it qualifies as sci-fi. Trek is at least sort of trying to say "this could be the future" but I get real tired of the aliens with different foreheads and nothing else.

Also, Patrick Stewart has done a lot of good work. Mark Hamill more often shows up to make a SW joke than anything else, though he's pretty cool in Avatar and Batman.
 

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Nigh Invulnerable said:
Star Wars is absolutely NOT science fiction. It's fantasy, though Lucas seems to have tried to make it a little more sci-fi by explaining the Force with midichlorians (I can't believe I know how to spell that). Star Wars is all about mysticism and magic with some standard mythological archetypes thrown in. Don't get me wrong, I prefer SW to Trek any day, but I don't think it qualifies as sci-fi. Trek is at least sort of trying to say "this could be the future" but I get real tired of the aliens with different foreheads and nothing else.
Star Wars is space opera. That's not hard s.f. but it's still regarded as science fiction. Think about Lensman, for example.

Star Trek is pretty much space opera, too. It avoids a few of the big space opera tropes (such as mega-huge "epic" scale, like interstellar governments that last thousands of years, or planets with trillions of people on them, or a two-billion-year-long psychic breeding program, or battles fought by ripping whole planets out of another dimension to hurl them at stuff), but it's still space opera at its core. Star Trek just dresses up the magic with more phlebotium (tachyons! chronatons! trilithium! baryon sweep!).

-- Alex