Star Trek Vs Star Wars
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both starwars and startrek are being milked beyond what I consider good taste, no examples needed.
another vote for Dr. Who.
another vote for Dr. Who.
Hmm the improbability drive vs the holly hop and the ability to travel back in time but not move.Illesdan said:
so yeah back to the subject at hand, star wars has more action, unless you include all the star trek episodes combined then maybe not.
Who is scarier? The Sith or The Borg? I would rather face the sith any day, less of a risk to be assimalated.
Who is scarier? The Sith or The Borg? I would rather face the sith any day, less of a risk to be assimalated.
this is like the Nerd war to end all nerd wars. been going on for decades. aside all that. I'm a star wars fan. I'm not going to blog why. I just am
The doctor is the last of his species named the time lords. He travels through time and space saving the universe with his trusty companion from the monsters of the day; most commonly cybermen, daleks or the master. He travels in the TARDIS which is meant to camouflage with the surroundings but it broke and is permanently a police phone box, fortunately you can only get in with a key and did I mention that it is bigger on the inside?mattttherman3 said:
The Doctor doesn't use weapons but saves the day with his wits, sonic screw drver an psychic paper.
It is the longest running sci-fi show of all time.
Meh, Dr Who's just far too silly for me - can't take any of it seriously. Watched the Christmas episode; 'stay out of the shadows of they'll eat you!' 'oh no, the shadows are making a space suit attack us! Really slowly!' bah ;P
As to Trek vs Wars, both have their major failings.
I grew up on TNG, and then Voyager, and loved them both, but looking at them now the acting is pretty horrible, the situations have fairly predictable endings, and they pretty much always carry a message of personal improvement - war is bad, generosity is good, stand up to evil, if in doubt use the deflector array, etc. Voyager went a bit further if I remember right, with having to make some difficult decisions in the quest to get home, which was nice. Didn't seem much of Enterprise, but I liked the modern CGI.
In short, although Trek had some good persistent characters, occasional interesting situations, and long sub plot arcs (in a sort of Borg in the back ground kinda way...), the simplicity of the general moral decision and the common resorting to technobabble to save the day pissed me off a little. Unless the cgi was good, heh.
Wars I initially loved, back when I saw the first episode and all that. However, watching it again makes me realise just how thin the story really is, and just how bad the majority of the line delivery and writing was. The whole thing is just farcical outside of the battles and sections without dialogue. And even in the battles... well, Ewoks? Were they seriously just there for the cute factor? Did their slings seriously injure the troopers though their body armour? Bull. And then Episode 1, another excuse to throw a silly alien race up against the evil military force, but this time they weren't even cute, and there weren't any actors involved. What a cop out. Not impressed.
However, considering how poor the execution of the source material was, the Star Wars franchise has made some nice games - Rogue Squadron was awesome, I played Jedi Knight, I enjoyed Pod Racer (heh
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Summing it up, neither franchise is awesome, though I'm praying that the new Trek movie doesn't suck... really want to enjoy that. Both have had some good and bad games made from them - Star Trek Armada I & II, Elite Force I & II against Rogue Squadron series, Jedi Knight series, Force Unleashed to name some of the better ones (imo). Both's sciences rely on you not picking too closely at how they work, though Trek makes FAR more of an effort to at least put names to its brands of magic. Which you prefer depends entirely on personal preference, and can change over time, so picking a side is closed minded and petty, tbh. There's better sci-fis out there - Firefly for sheer awesome win, Red Dwarf and Hitchhiker's for comedy.
As to Trek vs Wars, both have their major failings.
I grew up on TNG, and then Voyager, and loved them both, but looking at them now the acting is pretty horrible, the situations have fairly predictable endings, and they pretty much always carry a message of personal improvement - war is bad, generosity is good, stand up to evil, if in doubt use the deflector array, etc. Voyager went a bit further if I remember right, with having to make some difficult decisions in the quest to get home, which was nice. Didn't seem much of Enterprise, but I liked the modern CGI.
In short, although Trek had some good persistent characters, occasional interesting situations, and long sub plot arcs (in a sort of Borg in the back ground kinda way...), the simplicity of the general moral decision and the common resorting to technobabble to save the day pissed me off a little. Unless the cgi was good, heh.
Wars I initially loved, back when I saw the first episode and all that. However, watching it again makes me realise just how thin the story really is, and just how bad the majority of the line delivery and writing was. The whole thing is just farcical outside of the battles and sections without dialogue. And even in the battles... well, Ewoks? Were they seriously just there for the cute factor? Did their slings seriously injure the troopers though their body armour? Bull. And then Episode 1, another excuse to throw a silly alien race up against the evil military force, but this time they weren't even cute, and there weren't any actors involved. What a cop out. Not impressed.
However, considering how poor the execution of the source material was, the Star Wars franchise has made some nice games - Rogue Squadron was awesome, I played Jedi Knight, I enjoyed Pod Racer (heh
)Summing it up, neither franchise is awesome, though I'm praying that the new Trek movie doesn't suck... really want to enjoy that. Both have had some good and bad games made from them - Star Trek Armada I & II, Elite Force I & II against Rogue Squadron series, Jedi Knight series, Force Unleashed to name some of the better ones (imo). Both's sciences rely on you not picking too closely at how they work, though Trek makes FAR more of an effort to at least put names to its brands of magic. Which you prefer depends entirely on personal preference, and can change over time, so picking a side is closed minded and petty, tbh. There's better sci-fis out there - Firefly for sheer awesome win, Red Dwarf and Hitchhiker's for comedy.
Bounce a graviton particle beam, off the main deflector dish,Alex_P said:
That's the way we do things lad, we're making shit up as we wish
Your post reminded me of this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2v6rXs5J9M
And I like both star trek and star wars equally, I even like Enterprise and Episode 3 (probably the only person in existence who does).
And I see the mention of Firefly and, awesome show that it was, raise you Farscape.
Eeeeh, I'd say not - no other sci fi has an evil bad race that will rape you to death, eat your flesh, and sew your skin into their clothing... if you're very lucky, in that order.Crofty said:
Firefly had a perfect blend of humour, action and character development, set in a collection of worlds that we could see existing, populated by the sort of people you would expect to see eking out a hard life on a desert moon. It took the whole 'evil empire' thing Star Wars tried to do, but does it so much more maturely and intelligently. It had no aliens, so no silly foreheads. Lasers, plasma guns and all that sci-fi jazz were avoided largely, although all the ballistic weapons did have a strange warmup noise... now why would a revolver or a shotgun go *click* *bwwwwweeee*? Meh. Also, no FTL - journeys between planets take weeks or months - how's that for realism?
ImpStar Deuce > USS Anything.
Babylon 5 was far better than either though. I did love the X-Wing comic series from dark horse and michael stackpole's novels though. Great fix of space soapie after bab5 ended.
[Edit] Wicky32: I believe they signified some kind of recoil compensator activating. I vaguely recall whedon babbling something about it in an interview somewhere.
Babylon 5 was far better than either though. I did love the X-Wing comic series from dark horse and michael stackpole's novels though. Great fix of space soapie after bab5 ended.
[Edit] Wicky32: I believe they signified some kind of recoil compensator activating. I vaguely recall whedon babbling something about it in an interview somewhere.