STOP THE PRESSES: GTAV has been Announced

[ChaoticKraus]

What the fuck is up with you guys? Have you all caught the cynicism virus from Yahtzee?

ITS A NEW FUCKING GTA GAME! I don't really care in what direction they go with it. I prefer the humourous and crazy Vice/SA style but i'm not gonna front, GTA IV had some really touching moments and overall Rockstar pulled off a very weighty story without being heavy-handed.

There is no need for GTA when SR3 is almost out

Because the SR games have a history of being soooo much better than GTA, right? (Apply humungous amounts of sarcasm)

What the fuck is up with you guys? Have you all caught the cynicism virus from Yahtzee?

ITS A NEW FUCKING GTA GAME! I don't really care in what direction they go with it. I prefer the humourous and crazy Vice/SA style but i'm not gonna front, GTA IV had some really touching moments and overall Rockstar pulled off a very weighty story without being heavy-handed.

Its not cynicism as it is wary caution after 4 was so squarely aimed at a different crowd then normal.
I for one was bored to death by GTA4- it was dull, far too easy with none of the previous games madcap fun or humour.

I guess you never turned on the radio or watched the TV in GTA 4, that stuff were just as zany as it always has been. That being said i do hope they go for the less serious approach this time.

 

[V8 Ninja]

Meh, I'll just stick to Saints Row for the time being. Never have been enticed by GTA (accept for Vice City), so this won't really change my tune unless ridiculous is the main and only dish of the week.

 

[Mrsoupcup]

Fingers crossed for GTA Toronto

 

[Sixties Spidey]

Please, for the love of God and all that is holy, place the fucking game in London or somewhere overseas. *starts praying fervently*

 

[JoJo]

It's odd how GTA4 has become the plague dog that it is the eyes of this community yet Red Dead Redemption is hailed as a masterpiece, despite suffering even worse from the issues for which GTA4 is loathed.

Anyway, I'm interested in seeing what Rockstar is going to deliver. I just hope they bring back some of that Bully magic.

One word explains all: Yahtzee

OT: Looking forward to this, I liked both SA and IV in their own ways though I liked the story more in the latter so I hope it will be a mixture of what was good in both.

No, sir. The word that best explains it is, "NEXT-GENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN."

It was released not long after console games were finally getting past a resolution of 640X480, and around that time everything was trying to go for the gritty realism. Rockstar tried to balance that with the standard GTA humor, and it just really... didn't awesome much.

Awesome's a verb now. You didn't know that? 'Cause it is. It's a verb. Awesomes.

As for GTA5, well, I'm kind of getting tired of the Americocentrism of all these games; I'd like to step outside New York, Miami, and Los Angeles for once please - that goes for you, too, Volition.

You're free to your own opinion but be warned a lot of the hate on this thread for GTAIV is simply people parroting Yahtzee's opinions, same for the love of SR3. I found parts of GTAIV hilarious, especially my version of Niko who I bought a Russian hat for ASAP. Also Brucie was awesome.

I agree with the location part though, I'd be nice to see it being set either in London again or maybe in a developing nation. Probably won't happen but hey, you never know.

 

[EvilPicnic]

I loved GTA IV, and thought that the griminess only made the satire bite harder (which was as present as ever - some people obviously need to play the game again to remind themselves)

I would also like to point out that GTA4 continues the dark style of GTA3 (it's New York! It's supposed to be moody!), and that it's VC and SA which were the diversions from the norm, hence their non-sequential titles.

That being said, Vice City is still my favourite GTA overall and I think a return to the setting would be fantastic. Or London

 

[Macrobstar]

What the fuck is up with you guys? Have you all caught the cynicism virus from Yahtzee?

ITS A NEW FUCKING GTA GAME! I don't really care in what direction they go with it. I prefer the humourous and crazy Vice/SA style but i'm not gonna front, GTA IV had some really touching moments and overall Rockstar pulled off a very weighty story without being heavy-handed.

There is no need for GTA when SR3 is almost out

Because the SR games have a history of being soooo much better than GTA, right? (Apply humungous amounts of sarcasm)

Ummm yes, SR2 was miles better than GTA4

 

[karloss01]

God, oh GOD let it be more like San Andreas and less like the gritty angst-fest that was GTA IV.

Seriously, GTA IV was just boring. San Andreas is still one of the best gaming experiences ever in my opinion.

I've been reading through the comments within the thread and can't help but be angered by people saying that GTAIV was boring. Seems like The Escapist doesn't like innovation or change...Or a game that shows the sheer power of videogames.
Narratively, graphically and thematically incredible, GTAIV is a masterpiece, and I cannot comprehend how people hate it. "It's not like San Andreas" is not an argument. Judge it on it's own merits.

To say that GTAIV had was too serious is to completely miss the satire of the whole game. There are unlimited moments of hilarity within the game but the humour is more subtle and I find that funnier than the in-your-face laughfest of San Andreas.

I know it's all subjective...people's opinions etc...but I still cannot understand how people can ostracise a game as progressive as GTAIV.

OT: I'm not particularly excited by the announcement of a trailer, but I will definitely be buying GTAV.

I'm kind of failing to see how exactly GTA IV was in any way innovative. Now, before you say anything, I mean innovating in the way that it did something entirely new. What GTA IV was, was an extremely (and, I can't stress this enough: EXTREMELY) well made, story-focused sandbox.

I loved the cut-scenes. They were funny, well-paced and astonishingly written. I also enjoyed majority of the side-characters (Little Jacob, anyone?) and the many, many choices you had to make regarding those side-characters throughout the game.

See, my problem with GTA IV is... hard to explain. While the characters were well-written, I just didn't feel connected to any of them. Hell, I actually DISLIKED Niko.

The missions. They were mostly very plain and unimaginative.

The flying. Good GOD, was it fucked up badly on PC. Why did they have to change the simple (and most of all, WORKING) controls from San Andreas? Also, why didn't they include planes? Or a jetpack? There's no one out there who can say the jetpack wasn't barrels of fun in SA.

Why did they add flying out through the windshield when crashing at high speeds? Who the hell felt the need for that kind of annoying realism? Or why did you have to lose HP when exiting the car while driving? I used that feature in San Andreas a lot because... well, because it was PRACTICAL and FUN.

Seriously, the list goes on and on.

So yeah, it's mostly the little things. My preferences regarding characters are just me being a dick, I guess, but the little, annoying, "realistic" features killed the fun for me.

And that's why GTA IV was boring.

^this

the game went too far with making it realistic. the whole seatbelt/bike helmet thing was the real pisser for me. can't Niko multitask like the previous characters and put the seatbelt on while he drives? i've had moments where i was ejected through the windscreen after moving the car forward a metre from bumping into the car infront or a small wall.

i admit the story was good and gameplay worked, but it had none of the charm of the previous games, it felt like its competitors too much. after the story mode there was nothing interesting to do and the multiplayer was clunky and was rarely fun (the spawn system was crap).

I'm interested to see what they come up with in GTAV but if its the same as GTAIV i'm not bothering, between real life and all these games trying to be realistic i'd rather something not serious like Saints Row, Assassin's creed and Space Marine.

Realism and Grittiness is not a fun game concept.

 

[ChaoticKraus]

What the fuck is up with you guys? Have you all caught the cynicism virus from Yahtzee?

ITS A NEW FUCKING GTA GAME! I don't really care in what direction they go with it. I prefer the humourous and crazy Vice/SA style but i'm not gonna front, GTA IV had some really touching moments and overall Rockstar pulled off a very weighty story without being heavy-handed.

There is no need for GTA when SR3 is almost out

Because the SR games have a history of being soooo much better than GTA, right? (Apply humungous amounts of sarcasm)

Ummm yes, SR2 was miles better than GTA4

I'm talking history here, were counting GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas aswell. Saints Row aint got shit on that line-up.

Besides, saying SR2 is better than GTA4 is kinda wrong. That's just your subjective opinion. I'm pretty sure many people would prefer GTA4.

 

[Macrobstar]

What the fuck is up with you guys? Have you all caught the cynicism virus from Yahtzee?

ITS A NEW FUCKING GTA GAME! I don't really care in what direction they go with it. I prefer the humourous and crazy Vice/SA style but i'm not gonna front, GTA IV had some really touching moments and overall Rockstar pulled off a very weighty story without being heavy-handed.

There is no need for GTA when SR3 is almost out

Because the SR games have a history of being soooo much better than GTA, right? (Apply humungous amounts of sarcasm)

Ummm yes, SR2 was miles better than GTA4

I'm talking history here, were counting GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas aswell. Saints Row aint got shit on that line-up.

Besides, saying SR2 is better than GTA4 is kinda wrong. That's just your subjective opinion. I'm pretty sure many people would prefer GTA4.

Well SR doesn't go back before this gen, so all we have to compare it to is GTA: Immigrant bowling sim

 

[luke10123]

Irrelevant. Saints Row: The Third is coming out in less than a month.

Really interested to see if it avoids going back to the San Andreas type GTA because SR seems to have a good grip on that market (especially if the 3rd is good/reviewed well) and instead stick with the more realistic GTAIV model... not long to wait though! only 8 days

 

[Togs]

I'm talking history here, were counting GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas aswell. Saints Row aint got shit on that line-up.

Besides, saying SR2 is better than GTA4 is kinda wrong. That's just your subjective opinion. I'm pretty sure many people would prefer GTA4.

And plenty of people would agree with Macrobstar, so I dont see how thats a pertinent point.
Plus Rockstars previous effort were not part of the discussion, the point was that SR2 was much more fun then GTA4 for a large number of people, namely the old time fans of GTA who felt a little betrayed by the games shifted focus.
And yes Im aware of that the game had elements of the clasic GTA satirical humour but it was sidelined into little extras compared to the gritty focus of the main plot and gameplay.

 

[karloss01]

What the fuck is up with you guys? Have you all caught the cynicism virus from Yahtzee?

ITS A NEW FUCKING GTA GAME! I don't really care in what direction they go with it. I prefer the humourous and crazy Vice/SA style but i'm not gonna front, GTA IV had some really touching moments and overall Rockstar pulled off a very weighty story without being heavy-handed.

There is no need for GTA when SR3 is almost out

Because the SR games have a history of being soooo much better than GTA, right? (Apply humungous amounts of sarcasm)

compared to GTAIV yes. Saints Row pretty much picked up where GTASA left off with the craziness that GTAIV left out. the diversions were more interesting and the game included Co-op (the multiplayer wern't that good but niether was GTAIV's).

 

[DirgeNovak]

I hate it when they pull that kind of shit. You have something to show us, show it. Those kinds of teases are just annoying.
And since this is Rockstar we're talking about, that means we most likely won't have a single gameplay video before release.

Oh, and for the record, I'm hoping for (and expecting) Vice City.

 

[PlowmanMk]

I for one actually hope they don't make GTAV it's old, wacky self. That's what Saints Row is for. (Although I hate Saints Row series.)

Realism wasn't really the psyche of IV either. Sure it wasn't as crazy as the prequels, but it had a solid story and great atmosphere.

I think the main problem was the gameplay/ missions were a little bland and repetitive. IV had the makings of a great game, it just wasn't thinking outside the box. It was missing some of its crazy streak.
(Compare it with Red Dead, which is a similar build but with a greater variation of things to do)

People need to be more optimistic about GTAV, and need to stop comparing it to its prequels.

 

[SidingWithTheEnemy]

Please, please let me just kill my stupid cousin with his big American titties this time. Why do you always need to so many human failures as your side-kick? That's just wrong.
Now Johnny Gat, even Carlos were fun. They had their lucid moments and didn't cause you that much trouble because of their inborn incompetence.

 

[l3o2828]

Is it going to be more like San Andreas or Vice City?

If no then I don't care. I loved SA and VC and hated IV.

My feelings exactly.
If it's going to keep being a moody gritty realistic boredome fest as IV then my money and time is better spent in Saints row 3 and other, less horrible games.

 

[Soundchekz]

Is this really that much of a surprise? Did anyone NOT see this coming?

 

[Hybridwolf]

As long as rockstar keep the dark humor, great storyline, the brilliant locations, graphics and the fantastic car models, I'll be happy. I'm not bothered about over the top zaniness, saints row can cover that for me. To be frank, I don't even see how people can complain GTA IV wasn't over the top, when you could easily wreck havoc with some creative thinking, have mad races against you mates in ice cream trucks and encounter some brilliant characters. And that was even before the ballard of gay tony...

 

[DustyDrB]

It's odd how GTA4 has become the plague dog that it is the eyes of this community yet Red Dead Redemption is hailed as a masterpiece, despite suffering even worse from the issues for which GTA4 is loathed.

Anyway, I'm interested in seeing what Rockstar is going to deliver. I just hope they bring back some of that Bully magic.

One word explains all: Yahtzee

OT: Looking forward to this, I liked both SA and IV in their own ways though I liked the story more in the latter so I hope it will be a mixture of what was good in both.

Nah, it has more to do with the setting. For one, I'm sick of modern city sandboxes. Another thing I'm sick of in games: Driving cars. Red Dead Redemption offered a unique (and beautiful) setting for video games and had a great story to go along with it. And I found myself getting attached to my horse, and actually took a moment to pay respects when a cougar got to it.

OT: I can't say I'm looking forward to this, as I'm hopelessly burnt out on much of what makes a GTA game a GTA game. Not that I'm gonna say the games are bad. My tastes have just changed.