Story Premises that Just Don't Make Much Sense if You Think About it.

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DevilWithaHalo

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Imthatguy said:
The billions that died on Alderaan beg to differ. Omnicidal madness was the modus operandi for the Empire.
Kind of a kick the dog moment really. I get wanting to destroy what was considered the homeworld of the Rebel Alliance, and less than 2 billion people is a small price with a galaxy wide Empire at stake. Wiping out a few million in retaliation though? Hunky Dory.

I get that narratives require conflict and/or antagonism, but if killing a few more people is the only thing that seperates the good guys and the bad guys; we have to seriously re-examine the body counts in some of these stories and who's suppose to be good and/or bad.
 

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DevilWithaHalo said:
Imthatguy said:
The billions that died on Alderaan beg to differ. Omnicidal madness was the modus operandi for the Empire.
Kind of a kick the dog moment really. I get wanting to destroy what was considered the homeworld of the Rebel Alliance, and less than 2 billion people is a small price with a galaxy wide Empire at stake. Wiping out a few million in retaliation though? Hunky Dory.

I get that narratives require conflict and/or antagonism, but if killing a few more people is the only thing that seperates the good guys and the bad guys; we have to seriously re-examine the body counts in some of these stories and who's suppose to be good and/or bad.
The rebels killed a 'few million' military personnel in that case. Whats the ratio of civilians to militant rebels on alderaan?

Personally I thought the rebels sucked they had ill defined goals and they really dropped the ball in the EU.
 

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For me Prototype 2

The story makes some sense but it still don't explain much. like,

1. Why is Alex Mercer (protagonist of the first game) almost Snidely Whiplash evil in this game? When it the first Mercer was like kinda the good guy

2. What about Pariah(Elizabeth Greene's Child) that supposed to be like uber evil and powerful

3. If Mercer infected Heller(protagonist of the sequel) why throughout the game did he try to convince Heller to his side instead of being evil?

4. If Mercer DID convince Heller was there anyway to make Blackwatch and Gentek seem almost an devastating imposing force instead of people gamers need to consume?
 

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Proeliator said:
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The Gundam series for one reason:

Where the fuck do they get the INFINITE BATTERY LIFE?
I thought they said a lot of them were nuclear reactors, which is why it was bad to blow 'em up.
Fair enough. That doesn't explain why the machines of war have fingers.
 

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MegaManOfNumbers said:
Fair enough. That doesn't explain why the machines of war have fingers.
To give the enemy the bird, of course! :)
Lol, yeah I know why they did it, but not why they did it. Though being able to pick up weapons on the battlefield does seem to be an advantage... then again if your forces had the weapons integrated, the other guys couldn't use your weapons... but then you wouldn't be able to use a comrade's as easily if yours broke...
The logic circle spirals onward!
 

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Proeliator said:
MegaManOfNumbers said:
Fair enough. That doesn't explain why the machines of war have fingers.
To give the enemy the bird, of course! :)
Lol, yeah I know why they did it, but not why they did it. Though being able to pick up weapons on the battlefield does seem to be an advantage... then again if your forces had the weapons integrated, the other guys couldn't use your weapons... but then you wouldn't be able to use a comrade's as easily if yours broke...
The logic circle spirals onward!
It's like the preceding theory of electron behavior in an atom due to the wave-particle effect prior to de Broglie's discovery!

Yeah, weird analogy.
 

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i know, right?

there are several demotivation posters that make fun of it.

Tomorrow, When the War Began also aimed at the same stupid thing, set in australia they were invaded by asian agressors, and you knew they wanted to say "herp derp north korea is evuil"

but the thing that saved it was that they never really identified them. so it could be china, chich could be to some extend plausable. still, what the hell does china want with australia. (no offence, australians)

these kind of movies really makes me questions if they either want to make a cheap cash in for the lulz or if it is secretly a goverment approved project like argo and they are going to say" you have seen what they can do. time to kick them commie asses. for 'merica, fuck yeah!" and start a stupid war.
The Red Dawn remake was a Chinese invasion until the studio spent a million bucks to reshoot the opening scene and digitally changed all Chinese posters, written characters, references to Korean. They didn't want to alienate China since it's now one of Hollywood's biggest growing markets.

[link]http://www.chengduliving.com/china-invades-america-in-red-dawn-2010/[/link]
This is an article with some of the first released images from the movie way back in 2010. That would have ultra mega PISSED off China and the movie would hever have gotten a release there.
 

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rhizhim said:
revjor said:
rhizhim said:
i know, right?
The Red Dawn remake was a Chinese invasion until the studio spent a million bucks to reshoot the opening scene and digitally changed all Chinese posters, written characters, references to Korean. They didn't want to alienate China since it's now one of Hollywood's biggest growing markets.

[link]http://www.chengduliving.com/china-invades-america-in-red-dawn-2010/[/link]
This is an article with some of the first released images from the movie way back in 2010. That would have ultra mega PISSED off China and the movie would hever have gotten a release there.
and again, it would had worked if they left the agressor unidenified.
How so? How many armies ever have been an anonymous group without any form of identity. No way an army is going to invade the U.S.A. nowadays where nobody knows who they are or what language they're speaking. If you never identify them you'd have to diversify the aggressor or you'll end up basically making a movie about a weird bland race war. I'd like to see how well your career in film works out after that.
 

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Every single game Nintendo has ever made.

Plumber from Boston saves princess from fire breathing turtle using carved out animal hides and drugs!

Giant pink black hole eats everything to get food!

Peter Pan fights pig to save princess!

Space Bounty Hunter badass is dependent on male authority figure for every instruction and scared of being she has killed five billion times!

Fox John Wayne starfighter!

You get the idea.
 

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For me it's the shipwreck premise. Person on boat get thrown of boat or their boat sink during a storm. Then they wake up on the beach of some tropical island. Yeah right, that person should of drowned. That one really ticks me off heh.
 

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rhizhim said:
i know, right?

there are several demotivation posters that make fun of it.
Some fun facts about the North Korean military.

It's air force is made up a handful of modern Migs (all set to defend the capital) the same jets they were flying in the 1950's during the first Korean War, and BIPLANES. The average pilot of the modern jet has ten hours of flight time a year while the Nato minimum for their pilots is 200 hours.

All oil in the nation is basically ultra cheap gifts from the Chinese and used exclusively by the government. Reserves of it are very limited and doubtful the army could even drive to the southern coast of South Korea.

The "nuke" they set off has been determined to be extremely weak and scientists believed it was a barely functioning dud that almost didn't explode.

Border guards from the North, which are the biggest and strongest men to intimidate their rivals, are as much as six inches shorter than the guards from the South, mostly due to malnutrition.

Reserve forces are armed with bladed weapons.

Regular troops are often not issued bullets.

North Korea spends a fourth of it's GDP on the military, but South Korea often has spent more on it's military than North Korea's ENTIRE GDP, not counting all the money the US spends on military in the South.

Yeah, this seems like a nation that could totally launch an invasion of the nation with the largest military spending on the PLANET.
 

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Muspelheim said:
Cthulhu; a being of unimaginable power and part of an incomprehensible cosmic plot, a being that could eradicate mankind without even realizing it. Unless you ram him with a boat, and he'll play nice and go back to bed. He's just a bone idle old sod who wants his sleepies at heart.
Funny you should say that...I just read Call of Cthulhu for the first time today, and I had to do a double read to make sure what I was reading was correct. I pretty much just came to the conclusion that for some odd reason, boats are his Kryptonite..I did have another theory though. I pretty much guessed that in most likely hood, this Cthulhu was just some sort of very powerful, physical illusion of the real Cthulhu....the real Cthulhu could probably pull something off like that. I don't know, I just find it hard to believe that the actual High Priest of the Old Ones could be momentarily delayed by a simple boat. Based on Lovecraft's theme of humanity being utterly insignificant to the beings of the cosmos, Cthulhu being defeated by a small man-made vessel is quite a silly notion.
Lovecraft himself thought Call Of Cthulhu was a rather clumsy piece of work "full of cheap and cumbrous touches." So take that as you will. It's definitely not anywhere near his best work, it's just the most recognised.
 

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Most J-Horror movies dont make sense to me. Ringu was ok, but after that it got too...I dunnon....pseudo sci-fi?
 

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speaking of mass effect does anyone else not find it odd how shepard doesnt raise an eyebrow at the racism towards the vorcha?
Yep, always found it weird and not keeping in line with the themes of the series. In a universe where the treatment of potentially dangerous alien species is so often discussed, the devs inserted a Tolkienesque Orc expy treated by everyone as barely better than animals.

From me, something I've even once made a thread about on these very forums. Witches and executions thereof in fantasy settings. Because if you think about it, in a fantasy setting, magic users are potentially extremely dangerous. They may very well commit the crimes townsfolk accuse them of. Maybe that hot girl the hero saves by massacring the "bigoted" townsfolk is actually guilty of mass murder? But any questions you might have are never addressed, because we're hardwired to immediately think "innocent woman being lynched by a primitive mob" when we see any situation like that. It happens in all forms of fantasy fiction and that bugs me.
 

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Tuesday Night Fever said:
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There's just one problem with that idea: if the company knew about the derelict on LV-426, then why haven't they ever attempted to investigate it again, in all the decades following the incident with the Nostromo?
We don't know that they haven't.

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If they did, then why did the company not take any measures to prevent people from stumbling onto the derelict ship?
When Newt's parents discover it, not only is the ship fully exposed, with no effort having been made to conceal it, but there's not even anything in place to prevent someone from going inside.
So, either Weyland-Yutani are incredibly incompetent, or they had no prior knowledge of the ship.

WanderingFool said:
Hell, maybe the Conduit wasnt even so much of a main part of the plan, as it was simply a means of learning how the Protheans did it (basically, it could have been Sovereign just satisfying his own curiousity.) Of course, with Shepard in the mix, what was a curiousity became essential.
So, you're saying that Sovereign essentially failed to bring back the Reapers because.. he got side-tracked?

That's pretty damn hilarious, actually.

Captcha: IT'S OVER

Cut that ominous shit off, captcha.
 

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So, either Weyland-Yutani are incredibly incompetent...
That's the general gist of it, yeah. Pretty much the entire series of movies shows them to be fairly incompetent at just about every single point. From sending a bunch of more-or-less unarmed scientists who have no real understanding of why it's important to keep their helmets on (clearly, they never read "War of the Worlds") to an alien planet to find God based on some cave drawings, to sending down space truckers to investigate what could have potentially been the single greatest scientific find ever, to sending in an incredibly small unit of trigger-happy Marines to handle something that they know is incredibly dangerous and don't want riddled with bullets, to throwing away probably hundreds of billions of dollars on a theoretical bioweapon that they've been shown completely incapable of controlling over the better part of a century leading to their eventual downfall.

Yeah... Weyland/Yutani isn't exactly a paragon of corporate responsibility.