Straight Guy in Wafflehouse beat down for homophobic slur

[Padwolf]

I don't suppose there was any chance he was just trying to order his meal?

But yeah, that beatdown was a bit uncalled for. Especially, since he was hit first.

Good gods you have made me hungry, haven't had those in a long time!

I think they are all idiots really. He was hit first. The woman shouldn't have hit him expecting to get no backlash for it. He was an ass and it may give him pause to think about what he says in the future. They shouldn't have beaten him down like that though, they could have challenged him and have him thrown out maybe instead of beating him up.

 

[TeletubbiesGolfGun]

hah holy shit, they went e.honda on his ass

he was pushed up against the wall, and she did slap him first, so in the heat of the moment i can't blame the ignorant fuck, but at the same time just using the word ****** doesn't exactly justify the beatdown..

meh, the guy is okay, just got his pride smashed on, life moves on.

 

[RubyT]

I don't know. While I don't condone violence, there's such a thing as having it coming.

You can't parade around antagonizing people and expect them not to hit you at some point. That's not how the world's been for the past 1 billion years of supporting life.

 

[Benni88]

Read the comments on the video itself. There's some gross people in there.

 

[Bara_no_Hime]

The guy was a homophobic asshole. The woman shouldn't have hit him but when he tried to hit her back that wasn't "self defense". He was attempting to retaliate.

This.

People need to remember, self defense only applies if your LIFE is threatened. A slap is not life threatening (unless you have a particularly rare set of diseases), so you can't "punch back" in self defense.

OT: As... stupid as that was, I find it mildly heartening that people were standing up to the homophobe. In a bad and destructive way, yes, but still.

Also, note: I'm at work ATM, so I didn't click the link. I'm only going off of the comments in this thread about what happened. If I got something factually wrong, then that's why.

 

[ramboondiea]

People need to remember, self defense only applies if your LIFE is threatened. A slap is not life threatening (unless you have a particularly rare set of diseases), so you can't "punch back" in self defense.

this isn't even remotely true, not under any legal jurisdiction, self-defence is the application of justifiable force against an unjust threat. this is the underlying rational of the defence and is pretty much the same where ever you look. so in that her attacking him and him being literally surrounded his actions were totally justified, its not a case of "punch backs" its a case of allowing a person to use force when he or others are threatened. it comes down to what is considered reasonable force to match the circumstances, which is what the bigot did, it is not what the attacking group did, it was excessive force to match a situation that they themselves created.

anyway on topic, the man was a dick, cant argue otherwise, still didn't deserve that and it was without a doubt criminal of the group to act in such a way, and I hope they are punished for it, so long as consideration is given for the man provoking them to a degree.

 

[roushutsu]

Good for them for standing up to the guy until everyone decided to throw down. That was a tad unnecessary.

 

[PirateRose]

As much as I want to support the homosexual men for this, I do have to agree that going the violent route was a bad choice of action.

 

[Krantos]

Guy uses homophobic slur - Asshole.

Multiple people beat up 1 guy - Assholes.

Yep, I'm gonna go with "No one involved in this acted like a reasonable adult."

 

[waj9876]

So...is it wrong that I want the homophobic asshole to get off, and the mob that attacked him for his racial slur to do prison time? 'Cause that's what they were. A mob of angry people physically assaulting someone because of their beliefs.

 

[dyre]

Guy uses homophobic slur - Asshole.

Multiple people beat up 1 guy - Assholes.

Yep, I'm gonna go with "No one involved in this acted like a reasonable adult."

Pretty much this. You forgot to add the woman though; she's an asshole too

I guess that's why I can't really conjure any strong emotions about this, because it's just assholes fighting other assholes.

That said, I've gotta say I laughed at the way those gay people "beat him up." I think I'd rather take over 9000 slaps from those guys than one good punch...

 

[Bara_no_Hime]

this isn't even remotely true, not under any legal jurisdiction, self-defence is the application of justifiable force against an unjust threat. this is the underlying rational of the defence and is pretty much the same where ever you look. so in that her attacking him and him being literally surrounded his actions were totally justified

Again, I didn't watch the video, but my point is a Slap is less than a Punch. If he was only slapped, then, if he punches, that's escalation, not rational or justifiable defense. So him trying to punch her for her slapping him is not self defense, even by your definition above. He could SLAP her back, but not punch her back.

And if the slap/punch were between her and him, then him being surrounded doesn't have anything to do with it. If he tried to punch the people surrounding him, then that's different, but that's not the impression I got from the other comments here on the Escapist. Again, since I'm ONLY replying to the comments here on the Escapist, I may have an incorrect impression of events, but that's all I've got to work with at the moment.

My point is, getting slapped isn't anything that needs "self defense" - it's not a threat to one's person. The rest, maybe, but a slap? No.

 

[AlphaLackey]

I support the gay community, but when someone speaks such a slur that is common in today's society, don't react unless he is going to physically harm you. The word, '******' is like the racial slur 'N word' towards African Americans.

The fact that you chose to censor one but not the other suggests otherwise.

 

[fuzz]

The guy should have kept his cool I think. The woman was being manipulative. She knew that by slapping him, if he retaliated the men would jump to her aid. The best thing you can do when a woman is exerting her control in a situation like this is to blow her off. Diminish the power she has to make you angry and she's got nothing, nothing but a slap. Of course I'm using the magical power of hindsight but whatever. The gay guys were in the right to give him grief for his homophobia though. But that group slapping session was pathetic.

 

[CrazyGirl17]

(Face palm) ...I...have no words for this. Maybe the guy deserved it... but still...

 

[antidonkey]

Maybe he wanted a bundle of sticks to be used as a torch or fuel source.