Student Suspended for wearing a dress.

[Lazier Than Thou]

The only thing I would have learned from this incident is that if I dress in a dress I don't have to go to school anymore. Kinda like Klinger in MASH.

 

[HydraMoon]

The part that breaks my heart is the 'I was pretty' bit. Made me go d'awwww. Let the kid wear the dress and heels, sheesh. I understand the hat rule was broken and as that seemed to go for boys and girls I have no issue with it.

I always ask myself one question in situations like this- what's the harm? So the kid wants to wear a dress- what's the harm from that? Some other kids might wear one too? Ok, so where's the harm in that, exactly? Role-play is healthy for kids to do. Hell, even high school kids do it to a certain extent.

I'm in the South and I get to tsk tsk the Pacific NW, so that's something I suppose? Probably better for me not to throw stones though. erm...

 

[Dags90]

I would have said it was a full Body Kilt. This, though stupid, is hilarious. I've never gotten into and argument so bad that i wore a dress. Given i have wore an dress before as a joke but that was different. He could have also said His mom dressed him. Put the blame on her.

Actually, I remember hearing about some student in Missouri who was barred from a school formal for wearing a kilt.

 

[Saelune]

He only wore the pants to be a troll.

If he was actually gender-queer or a cross dresser, I think it would have been different

I'm not agreeing with the school, but I'm not buying his and his mom's bullshit about it being a moral crusade. Fucking attention whores.

Wait what? It was a bet his mother made to make him see how difficult heels are to wear. There was no initial moral crusading.

That's what I'm saying.

I don't like the way they're turning it into one now.

Why? The school is wrong, and should be called out on it. Why force some future crossdressing student to deal with it later when these people can deal with it now and make it easier for any future students who it applies to.

But they didn't

You can't assume it would be the same situation. You can't say the school wouldn't have reacted differently. This was just a kid dicking around in a dress to get attention. He wasn't actually genderqueer, or anything.

You can't blame someone for an injustice they haven't committed before they actually do it. Its not right. The school solved the issue with the kid, they lowered his suspension. Both mom and kid agreed that they're fine with it now, just disappointed.

Now they're just dragging it into the media to be more like the attention whores they are. They're not moral crusaders, and should stop acting like they're standing up for people who are actually facing gender issues.

So what if it was for attention? If he wore a piece of male clothing for attention (that was not vular or something) would he have been suspended? The school was sexist. What about all the women wearing dresses for attention? Im sure there are plenty. Are they being treated equal to him?

 

[Ghengis John]

Shouldn't the law which struck down "dresses only for girls" dress codes also have stricken "pants only for boys"?

Title (a) Prohibition against discrimination; exceptions. No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance

Or do boys just have less of a right to wear dresses than girls do to wear pants?

Maybe they're just against filling the school with Sherwood Schwartzesque distractions? I'd love to know where the kids father is in all of this though. Oh we have a picture?

Spoiler

Ah that makes a lot of sense.

 

[Saelune]

To conform is to make the same. Sexism then is an enemy of conformity, thus the school is against conforming.

Gender roles =/= sexism. Blokes shouldn't wear dresses.

Actually gender roles are the highest form of sexism.

 

[funguy2121]

OP, it's MSN, so it should be taken with a grain of salt without a second source. It sounds like the kid's been pushing boundaries at the school for a while; he was tempting them to do this. It doesn't make it any more right for them to do so, but I fail to see how dressing in drag to come to school is really so important. Perhaps that's myopic of me, but I doubt you'd see Eddie Izard in stilettos and blush waiting in line at the bank.

 

[Pimppeter2]

He only wore the pants to be a troll.

If he was actually gender-queer or a cross dresser, I think it would have been different

I'm not agreeing with the school, but I'm not buying his and his mom's bullshit about it being a moral crusade. Fucking attention whores.

Wait what? It was a bet his mother made to make him see how difficult heels are to wear. There was no initial moral crusading.

That's what I'm saying.

I don't like the way they're turning it into one now.

Why? The school is wrong, and should be called out on it. Why force some future crossdressing student to deal with it later when these people can deal with it now and make it easier for any future students who it applies to.

But they didn't

You can't assume it would be the same situation. You can't say the school wouldn't have reacted differently. This was just a kid dicking around in a dress to get attention. He wasn't actually genderqueer, or anything.

You can't blame someone for an injustice they haven't committed before they actually do it. Its not right. The school solved the issue with the kid, they lowered his suspension. Both mom and kid agreed that they're fine with it now, just disappointed.

Now they're just dragging it into the media to be more like the attention whores they are. They're not moral crusaders, and should stop acting like they're standing up for people who are actually facing gender issues.

So what if it was for attention? If he wore a piece of male clothing for attention (that was not vular or something) would he have been suspended? The school was sexist. What about all the women wearing dresses for attention? Im sure there are plenty. Are they being treated equal to him?

Your not getting the fucking point

"I'm not agreeing with the school, but I'm not buying his and his mom's bullshit about it being a moral crusade. Fucking attention whores."

Honestly, read what you quote. Its ridiculous.

I didn't say he did anything wrong, or that the school did right in punishing him. I said I just wish he didn't play the role of moral crusader. Its petty.

Now, read before you respond.

 

[funguy2121]

To conform is to make the same. Sexism then is an enemy of conformity, thus the school is against conforming.

Gender roles =/= sexism. Blokes shouldn't wear dresses.

Actually gender roles are the highest form of sexism.

Misogyny? Come on. I personally don't have any misgivings with gender roles at all, until they become compulsory. Unfortunately, that's very very often. Kill your own damned spiders!

 

[Saelune]

He only wore the pants to be a troll.

If he was actually gender-queer or a cross dresser, I think it would have been different

I'm not agreeing with the school, but I'm not buying his and his mom's bullshit about it being a moral crusade. Fucking attention whores.

Wait what? It was a bet his mother made to make him see how difficult heels are to wear. There was no initial moral crusading.

That's what I'm saying.

I don't like the way they're turning it into one now.

Why? The school is wrong, and should be called out on it. Why force some future crossdressing student to deal with it later when these people can deal with it now and make it easier for any future students who it applies to.

But they didn't

You can't assume it would be the same situation. You can't say the school wouldn't have reacted differently. This was just a kid dicking around in a dress to get attention. He wasn't actually genderqueer, or anything.

You can't blame someone for an injustice they haven't committed before they actually do it. Its not right. The school solved the issue with the kid, they lowered his suspension. Both mom and kid agreed that they're fine with it now, just disappointed.

Now they're just dragging it into the media to be more like the attention whores they are. They're not moral crusaders, and should stop acting like they're standing up for people who are actually facing gender issues.

So what if it was for attention? If he wore a piece of male clothing for attention (that was not vular or something) would he have been suspended? The school was sexist. What about all the women wearing dresses for attention? Im sure there are plenty. Are they being treated equal to him?

Your not getting the fucking point

"I'm not agreeing with the school, but I'm not buying his and his mom's bullshit about it being a moral crusade. Fucking attention whores."

Honestly, fucking read what you quote. Its ridiculous.

I didn't say he did anything wrong, or that the school did right in punishing him. I said I just wish he didn't play the role of moral crusader. Its fucking petty.

Now, read before you respond. For fucksake.

Might want to watch the swearing. I am not arguing if they are or are not being attention whores. Im arguing that its fine if it means stopping something bad.

 

[Hamish Durie]

me thinks the school staff are right fools

 

[Merkavar]

i just dont see anything wrong with what he did. if he wants to wear a dress and high heels does it really affect anyone? i just dont see why they even tried to suspend him.

if a guy wearing dresses is suspndable offence then girls wearing pants should also be.

but that would just be stupid. people should be able to wear anything they want as long as it covers up your junk.

 

[Saelune]

To conform is to make the same. Sexism then is an enemy of conformity, thus the school is against conforming.

Gender roles =/= sexism. Blokes shouldn't wear dresses.

Actually gender roles are the highest form of sexism.

Misogyny? Come on. I personally don't have any misgivings with gender roles at all, until they become compulsory. Unfortunately, that's very very often. Kill your own damned spiders!

Not mysogyny. I find nowadays gender roles hurt men more than women. Its weirder for men to wear skirts than women to wear pants, which 50 or so years ago would be crossdressing.

 

[Arcticflame]

To conform is to make the same. Sexism then is an enemy of conformity, thus the school is against conforming.

I don't disagree with many of your other posts, but this is grade A rhetoric tripe. Going with your logic conformists would want everyone to devolve into the stage before the big bang, clearly conformists want you to conform to previous, somewhat anachronistic societal standards, and therefore enforced gender roles.

 

[callmegreen]

This is Retarded.......

Its not like the the kid was like "LOL LOOK AT ME IN A DRESS ITS SO QUEER! FAGS ARE DUMB LOL"

And the Kid isnt some Gender confused boy being singled out by his school.

What ever he got 3 days suspention for doing a dare that his mom set... My moms dared me to do stupid shit to.
NOONE CARES!!
The kid and the mother dont care. All that happened was the kid got caught being a ass THATS ALL

 

[Saelune]

Actually gender roles are the highest form of sexism.

Actually the highest form of sexism is me beating the shit out of someone for being a woman.

But sure, you can believe what you want bro. Personally, I believe that men and woman are different (a crazy notion, I know, but bear with me) and that roles within society naturally build from this base difference. These roles vary over time and from society to society, naturally, but if there are roles in place that do not hamper someone to enjoy life due to their gender, then I support that.

The biggest difference between men and women are the genitals. Now. What about a penis makes wrapping a cloth garment around them wrong due to lack of a bottom piece?

 

[Dags90]

OP, it's MSN, so it should be taken with a grain of salt without a second source. It sounds like the kid's been pushing boundaries at the school for a while; he was tempting them to do this. It doesn't make it any more right for them to do so, but I fail to see how dressing in drag to come to school is really so important. Perhaps that's myopic of me, but I doubt you'd see Eddie Izard in stilettos and blush waiting in line at the bank.

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Boy-wears-dress-to-school-gets-suspended-1429489.php

So that's now four sources. These shouldn't be boundaries in the first place, except I guess the hat thing.