I call bullshit on this some teachers just need to not teach as they are hurting students more then helping em and some just hate kids.Corpse XxX said:
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Students suspended, expelled over Facebook posts
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Yes, you're wrong for using the moronic phrase "No smoke without fire"...if the students had continued to press the issue, instead of realizing their mistake then an investigation would be warranted, but that's clearly not the case since you know, when they had the chance to accuse the personnel again - they didn't.Zaik said:
All I hear about is people getting in trouble because of their Facebook. Arrested, expelled, fired, excommunicated, etc. Yet its user base continues to grow daily.
If you are gonna start slandering people on facebook then you deserve everything that's coming your way.
Firstly i don't see how anyone can be suspended based on "what they said on Facebook", or what they said anywhere, for that matter. Secondly, i don't see how many people on this thread seem to think it is normal for it to be any of the schools business what the students say about their teachers. Any person should have the right to go up to someone else and say "This is exactly what i think of you...", as long as they don't start harassing the other person.
This is retarded. Yeah, the students weren't too bright, but they're fucking kids, they're supposed to be retarded.
They say this kind of shit about their teachers ALL THE TIME. I don't see why they'd get suspended for it just because it's on Facebook.
If that ever happened to me, I'd prolly move to another school and set their cars on fire. But, of course, I wouldn't be so reckless as to post that on Facebook.
They say this kind of shit about their teachers ALL THE TIME. I don't see why they'd get suspended for it just because it's on Facebook.
If that ever happened to me, I'd prolly move to another school and set their cars on fire. But, of course, I wouldn't be so reckless as to post that on Facebook.
Back in school I once said "Man, Mr. X sure is an asshole" only to find that said teacher stood right behind me.
I had to spend the afternoon cleaning shit. And you know what? I deserved it.
What's the difference between being overheard during a conversation and having your facebook feed read?
There is none.
This has nothing to do with free speech or anything, insulting an authority figure was never a smart idea and always ended badly.
Too many spoiled brats these days seem to forget that a teacher is a superior, not some dick who "makes your life hell".
Not to mention that calling a teacher in public (that's what the internet is) a paedophile is slander, which, as far as I know, isn't covered by "Free Speech" even in the USA.
I had to spend the afternoon cleaning shit. And you know what? I deserved it.
What's the difference between being overheard during a conversation and having your facebook feed read?
There is none.
This has nothing to do with free speech or anything, insulting an authority figure was never a smart idea and always ended badly.
Too many spoiled brats these days seem to forget that a teacher is a superior, not some dick who "makes your life hell".
Not to mention that calling a teacher in public (that's what the internet is) a paedophile is slander, which, as far as I know, isn't covered by "Free Speech" even in the USA.
It wasn't a message to the guy and there has been no formal comment made, it's just kids joking amongst themselves. It is going to be taken as seriously as kids writing on desks for crying out loud. It CAN ruin lives, I know that but it hasn't at all. If anything it has raised more issues because it's now getting news coverage. If he'd just left it nobody would have been any the wiser, but now employers are going to find this news story which is something much more credible. What's more a suspension is official unlike a facebook status.Witty Name Here said:
What's more, qualifying statements with "I think" all the time is ridiculous and a point I've made all the time on here. If I say a game is good I mean I think it's good. If somebody asks you what you think of somebody and you say "he's an arsehole" you obviously mean "I think he's an arsehole" and obviously don't mean that he is literally an arsehole. People don't need to justify everything with THIS IS AN OPINION, NOT ABSOLUTE FACT.
I don't see why it's any different if the kid had said "I think he's a pedo" rather than "he's a pedo", either way, by your argument, a future employer is going to see them as the same. Although in my opinion (IT'S MY OPINION) he isn't going to see it as anything REMOTELY significant.
Well, one is on school grounds, the other isn't. One is in private, the other isn't.Staskala said:
Authority in the sense that they are a teacher, they have no true authority.
Superior? No. Tell that to a substitute that randomly got pissed at me and broke a projector and proclaimed to the class "look at what you made me do!". :/ I was this [___] close to telling him "fack you". Superior, teachers are not.
So... if I tell someone in a private place that XXXXXXXX is an asshole, that isn't private because it is the internet? Privacy of belief, 1st Amendment covered.
Just because you are a teacher doesn't absolve you of being an ass. I'm currently a college student and up until last semester I was going to be a highschool teacher. Several of the students I met in teacher certification classes... well...I wouldn't want them to be my teacher, let's put it that way.Corpse XxX said:
No it's not an easy job, it's thankless and you're never going to make any real money at it, but that's the choice you have to make. Many teachers treat their students poorly because of this, giving out unfair punishments, abusing their students, and being lackluster in their teaching and that's not right.
I think the students used harsh words and no they shouldn't have posted that on facebook because they are accusing the teacher of serious things here with no proof so yes they deserve punishment (though maybe not expelling). At the same time though the school is esentially saying "you are not allowed to have an opinion of our teachers unless it is good" which is ridiculous.
This is true. I had a Math teacher who did not give a damn about her job. She hunched while she walked and even looked the part. Life was not going her way and was a generally awful person.Screamarie said:
That said; I wouldn't slander her over the internet for all to see. That's between me and an idle conversation with friends at lunch time.
