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LilithSlave

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Nobody is make a big deal out of things. And it's all of the little things combined that add up to a whole of male privilege in society.

Being a little annoyed by an annoying commercial is not making a big deal out of things.
 
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chadachada123 said:
gmaverick019 said:
oh sorry, i probably should have put "/generalized sarcasm statement" at the end. the whole "and it all made sense" was meant to be a smartass sarcastic statement.

and yeah, they are stupid enough to give me a laugh and then move on, they don't personally point out anyone so i don't see how it is so offensive to QQ about but hey, people love to be offended about things i suppose..
Whoopsie, that's what I get for not reading the other brony comments first, heh.

We have an accord, then? :3
hah no big deal

and yes, accord we do have!

(i do have a honda accord...so lol for the unknown pun)
 

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artanis_neravar said:
Gothproxy said:
Well I think that the scooter (whether riding shotgun or driving it) isn't manly. At all. Ever. But I also wanna know, what was so wrong with the OP that they got a warning? Seemed like an OK post to me.

Hmmm....

Ad-blockers.

Hmm.....

Smells like a conspiracy to me. (and again, Greed rears his ugly head)
There is a difference between greed and making a living. Is it greed to charge people for food at your restaurant?
Hmm...taking the low road (in a conversation about greed, which is highly subjective anyway)by using a basic necessity (food, water, shelter) as an example tends to negate the whole issue.

If someone is offering a free service, which this site is for most intents and purposes, to the public, great. If that someone gets revenue to keep up the free service to the public by offering advertising space, great. But if that someone gives a warning to a forum poster (who uses the free service to the public) who simply "mentions" ad-blockers in passing, not so great.

I have ad-blockers on my web browser. It comes standard. I didn't install it or anything. When I visit this site, which I do regularly, I still see ads for AT&T and for cars and meat sticks, etc. I have no problem with them nor do I think the OP did either.

NOW, if the OP had said something to the effect of "Hey, here is this great ad-blocker thingy that will cut out all the ads on this site" yeah, a warning or even suspension, or whatever would have been in order. But for mentioning it in passing? I don't think so.

I'm sure most of us here don't mind the ads at all since it helps bring us a website we all really enjoy.

Just don't try to bring in stuff that people know you can't live without. People can do without the internet if they really had to. And if not....well, hehe, won't go there.
 

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These commercials are so stupid and so annoying, I really wish escapist would get someone else to advertise here. For one, it's demeaning to suggest that the kind of advertising that will resonate with me is a bunch of ugly neckbeards driving around and being the gender police because some dude somewhere isn't manly enough for them. Games will never be taken seriously as long as they're considered the domain of the idiot manchild, which is the target audience for this ad.

But more importantly, these ads are dumb because Slim Jim just alienated a huge portion of their customers. Do they really think only guys eat their food? My girlfriend used to eat Slim Jims until this campaign came out, now she's switched to some other brand. As for me, I never touch the stuff, but now I have even less desire to.

We're living at a point in time where people are slowly starting to see all this gender role crap is just made-up nonsense - look at all the bronies in this thread as an example - but you've still got asshats trying to push us backwards. That they think this will win me over is just the creepy icing on a triple-layer douchebag cake.
 

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wrongheaded said:
These commercials are so stupid and so annoying, I really wish escapist would get someone else to advertise here. For one, it's demeaning to suggest that the kind of advertising that will resonate with me is a bunch of ugly neckbeards driving around and being the gender police because some dude somewhere isn't manly enough for them. Games will never be taken seriously as long as they're considered the domain of the idiot manchild, which is the target audience for this ad.

But more importantly, these ads are dumb because Slim Jim just alienated a huge portion of their customers. Do they really think only guys eat their food? My girlfriend used to eat Slim Jims until this campaign came out, now she's switched to some other brand. As for me, I never touch the stuff, but now I have even less desire to.

We're living at a point in time where people are slowly starting to see all this gender role crap is just made-up nonsense - look at all the bronies in this thread as an example - but you've still got asshats trying to push us backwards. That they think this will win me over is just the creepy icing on a triple-layer douchebag cake.
Bravo, sir! Bravo! I agree with you completely. As I'd posted in another thread,

MacGuges said:
It seems like the Slim Jim Dare Sticks campaign has been going on forever, and I for one can't wait for it to end. Every time that "manbulance" driver opens his mouth about how "studies show" their product is essential to my masculinity I can't mute him fast enough. I ought to be all Zen and let his ridiculous marketing-ese roll over me, I know, I know. But this ad is so ridiculous I want to take those loud-mouthed brats aside to tell them to leave their perfectly ordinary, emotionally vulnerable "patients" alone.

I understand the magazine needs advertisers, and that you can't pick your customers, but surely I'm not the only regular Escapist visitor to be offended by this ad.
These Slim Jim ads are offensive sexist garbage, and their tenure's end of the Escapist can't come soon enough, IMHO.
 

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LilithSlave said:
Nobody is make a big deal out of things. And it's all of the little things combined that add up to a whole of male privilege in society.

Being a little annoyed by an annoying commercial is not making a big deal out of things.
I for one am not just a little annoyed with these ads, and if it weren't for just having been laid off and wondering how far my cash will carry me I'd be subscribing yesterday so the Escapist could afford to be more choosy and I wouldn't have to see those bullying "manbulance" losers again.
 

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Thank you, I feel you're spot on.

artanis_neravar said:
bigredlyms said:
maninahat said:
am I just being neurotic about this shit?
yes, and im assuming also that you arent from america because you referred to them as spicy meat stick things. slim jims are supposed to be synonymous with manliness so they make their commercials over the top. the reason i think youre just being neurotic is because the commercial isnt sexist at all actually. in no way does it demean women. what it does do is strengthen gender roles and social "order," it doesnt talk about the women at all. essentially it is homophobic in nature.
Being sexist doesn't mean it is against women, it can be against men and still be sexist.
There's a common misconception (or deliberate obfuscation) that feminism exists to serve women's interests, exclusively. Of course not all feminists may agree about all that feminism is about, but I'd expect most would agree that it challenges the assumption that sex should determine a person's options. It follows that sexism restricts men as well as women.

There's a perception that men always have it better in a sexist society. While its true that guys have historically had wider choice in choosing their occupation as well as preferential access to our most powerful institutions, the sexism that makes all that possible can turn into cudgel to intimidate men who venture into feminine territory without permission. As demonstrated (as juvenile humor) by these Slim Jims ads.
artanis_neravar said:
Silverfox99 said:
Every time I see that I can't help but think that I would rather on the back of the scooter with my arms around a woman than in the ambulance with two scruffy guys trying to offer me their meat sticks.
Agreed, kind of like the other commercial I consider giving up something you love in order to protect your offspring (trading in the sports coupe for a minivan) is pretty damn manly. Ironing your jeans is more likely to make you appear clean and fit, allowing you to attract more people of your preferred sex, manly. The last one (The Exes engagement party) I do agree that that is pathetic, but it is pathetic for anyone regardless of gender.
Yeah, anyone who'd infiltrate a romantic occasion to plead with their ex to come back has crossed a line. But I don't believe the point of this scene is to show that "manly men" respect their ex-girlfriends' relationship choices, but that it is unmanly to express such emotional vulnerability in public. Considered in the whole structure of the ad, the first two patients were intended to represent feminine behaviors the male viewer could reasonably see himself doing, calling the viewer's masculinity into doubt. The third patient represents a clearly unreasonable behavior the viewer is expected to disagree with, allowing him to congratulate himself for being a decent human being. And thanks to Slim Jim, he knows how he can avert that outcome altogether.

But this sequence works because the viewer can recognize each situation as a cliched feminine behavior. "You won't plead desperately with your ex to come back, because you eat manly Slim Jim snacks, unlike a girl who would."