Teacher orders kindergarteners to beat up class "bully"

[Eamar]

Holy crap, I know bullying is a touchy subject here but... people are condoning this? Really? I can imagine wanting to do that, perhaps, or backing up the bullied kids if they'd gone and hit the kid back themselves, but for a professional teacher to actually follow through with it... I'm sorry but that is never acceptable. Thank god you people aren't running schools.

Also the kid is six frickin' years old. This isn't some shithead teenager who could probably do with a good smack. He's very much still at an age where his behaviour could be corrected in a less extreme way. I knew a kid who was a bully at that age. He got punished for it in non-violent ways, was kept away from the kids he was bullying, and eventually he learned how to behave. He's actually a lovely young man now. This kid isn't the bully who made highschool hell for you, he's a young child. Quite possibly a bit of a shit, sure, but again:

six years old

Sheesh.

 

[gazumped]

Speaking from experience, you don't stop a bully with kindness and analysis. You stop them by standing on their neck and telling them not to fuck with you again.

I dunno, maybe I grew up in a particularly screwed up area but most of the troublemakers at my school it turned out were the ones who got beaten by their parents or left alone by their parents while they were going out and getting drunk, or just got plain sexually molested by their parents.

Okay this one might have turned out to just be a brat, but what if this was one of those bullies who bullies because they are bullied? Think you might actually get somewhere a lot quicker with kindness than with just giving them more of the treatment they get at home.

 

[thebobmaster_v1legacy]

I doubt he'll be bullying the kid again.

Speaking from experience, you don't stop a bully with kindness and analysis. You stop them by standing on their neck and telling them not to fuck with you again.

Standing on a six year old's neck and yelling at them? This is acceptable to you?

When you yourself are a six year old... sure.

And being forced by a teacher to do it, even if you don't want to? That's the lesson we want to teach?

 

[The Artificially Prolonged]

I think the teacher showed the students an important lesson in why they are stronger if they stand together against bullies. He has the muscles but they have the numbers

In all seriousness though having a teacher promote child on child violence is irresponsible and down right deplorable. Bullying is a problem that teachers should not ignore but are certainly much better ways of dealing with it. Although admittedly if I was the parent of a child who was being bullied I would probably advise him and his mates to jump the bully and give him a beating but then I not a teacher who is given responsibility over other peoples children. Its that trust that the parents place on schools when the children are in the school's care that this teacher has broken by her actions.

 

[thebobmaster_v1legacy]

Holy crap, I know bullying is a touchy subject here but... people are condoning this? Really? I can imagine wanting to do that, perhaps, or backing up the bullied kids if they'd gone and hit the kid back themselves, but for a professional teacher to actually follow through with it... I'm sorry but that is never acceptable. Thank god you people aren't running schools.

Also the kid is six frickin' years old. This isn't some shithead teenager who could probably do with a good smack. He's very much still at an age where his behaviour could be corrected in a less extreme way. I knew a kid who was a bully at that age. He got punished for it in non-violent ways, was kept away from the kids he was bullying, and eventually he learned how to behave. He's actually a lovely young man now. This kid isn't the bully who made highschool hell for you, he's a young child. Quite possibly a bit of a shit, sure, but again:

six years old

Sheesh.

Finally, someone actually considering the age of the kid. I was wondering if I was going crazy for thinking about that.

 

[Yopaz]

I was bullied a lot when I was growing up and I do not approve of this. After all the pain I have had to suffer I still think that what the teacher did was wrong.

It's great because the bully get to see what it's like for his victims? No. This is bad because it encourages bullying as a solution. These kids have now learned the lesson that they should bully someone of they get bullied.

I am also against violence as a way to discipline children.

 

[Samurai Silhouette]

Oh god, if this was my kid, I'd find the teacher off school grounds.

 

[Eamar]

Holy crap, I know bullying is a touchy subject here but... people are condoning this? Really? I can imagine wanting to do that, perhaps, or backing up the bullied kids if they'd gone and hit the kid back themselves, but for a professional teacher to actually follow through with it... I'm sorry but that is never acceptable. Thank god you people aren't running schools.

Also the kid is six frickin' years old. This isn't some shithead teenager who could probably do with a good smack. He's very much still at an age where his behaviour could be corrected in a less extreme way. I knew a kid who was a bully at that age. He got punished for it in non-violent ways, was kept away from the kids he was bullying, and eventually he learned how to behave. He's actually a lovely young man now. This kid isn't the bully who made highschool hell for you, he's a young child. Quite possibly a bit of a shit, sure, but again:

six years old

Sheesh.

Finally, someone actually considering the age of the kid. I was wondering if I was going crazy for thinking about that.

Yeah, it's pretty disturbing. I can only hope most of the people commenting didn't read the full article, otherwise... damn :S

I remember being six years old. I was very much still learning how to interact with people, and how other people reacted to my behaviour (though I was never a "bully", I'm sure I probably upset some other kids pretty badly, with or without knowing it). That doesn't fully excuse bullying, but it sure as hell doesn't make the kid an irredeemable piece of scum that needs his behaviour beaten out of him >.<

 

[Xannidel]

You people who are promoting these acts ought to be ashamed, these are 6 year old kids! They are not tough as bricks or anything, plenty of them probably act out for attention and nothing else. The teacher could have EASILY have written a letter to the parent(s) and even talked to the child with a therapist if they chose to go with that decision. How do you think this kid will feel? He had 20 some odd kids who hit him, some multiple times, to what? Teach a lesson about how bullying is wrong? That is hypocritical and probably gives all those kids the idea that beating people up is OKAY as long as it proves a point (probably doesn't even matter WHAT the point may be).

 

[bat32391]

While I'm all for bullies getting the shit knocked out of them, the kid is SIX. It's not like he is some shithead teenage that deserves a good punch to the face, he's just a little kid.

 

[Syzygy23]

If the kid was a bully then he deserved it and I see nothing wrong here. Bullies will only stop when they realized there are consequences and I think this kid just learned to stop.

So you think Kids should learn that violence solves their problems, and that vicious retaliation is acceptable?

Seriously, how can you even think that this would teach a bully a lesson, most of them have problems and can be quite angry kids, hitting them isn't going to solve anything, not that they should hit them even if it would solve anything.

Um, maybe because that's sort of how the world works?

What, do you think the bully will learn his lesson if everyone writes up a cross-indexed, alphabetized, formal list of complaints about his behavior?

Oh, I know! The kids should form a committee to come to a consensus about bullying! THat'll learn him!

Nope, instead he probably learned something totally useless, like how if he torments one or two kids the rest will come down upon him like a swarm of angry hornets.

 

[Eamar]

If the kid was a bully then he deserved it and I see nothing wrong here. Bullies will only stop when they realized there are consequences and I think this kid just learned to stop.

So you think Kids should learn that violence solves their problems, and that vicious retaliation is acceptable?

Seriously, how can you even think that this would teach a bully a lesson, most of them have problems and can be quite angry kids, hitting them isn't going to solve anything, not that they should hit them even if it would solve anything.

Um, maybe because that's sort of how the world works?

What, do you think the bully will learn his lesson if everyone writes up a cross-indexed, alphabetized, formal list of complaints about his behavior?

Oh, I know! The kids should form a committee to come to a consensus about bullying! THat'll learn him!

Nope, instead he probably learned something totally useless, like how if he torments one or two kids the rest will come down upon him like a swarm of angry hornets.

There's a world of difference between one of the kids he was accused of bullying pushing him back and the godamn teacher lining up the whole class and forcing them to hit him.

The police report alleges that the teacher chose to show the child "why bullying is bad" by instructing his peers to "Hit him!" and "Hit him harder!"

If that's true, do you seriously think that's a person who should be working with kids?

 

[Cheery Lunatic]

Aw look, the state that gave us George W. Bush is uncomfortable being associated with unnecessary violence

Please stop and reflect over what you just said. I sincerely hope you were kidding.
Cuz, y'know, one person represents an entire area.

I honestly do not know what to make of this.