Teacher orders kindergarteners to beat up class "bully"

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Eamar said:
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The teaches is fucked up, but I would be lying if I said I felt sorry for the kid.
He deserves it and more.

I had my problems with bullies in school, until I decided to send 2 of them to the hospital by hitting them with a chair several times. But it was after school and everyone else in my class was on my side and said I didn't do anything. No consequences for me and those 2 bastards became so nice to me and everyone else.

Trust me, once you send a bully in the hospital, he will almost always get out as a better men.
...Wow. I seriously hope your actions were proportionate to what they did to you :S

Yes, I'm sure being beaten up by 20 of your peers, and getting 24 injuries as a result (meaning some kids attacked twice) wouldn't cause any mental scarring at all.
By being a bully, he forfeited all protection from bullying.


Six. Years. Old. Six.

I'm sorry you had a hard time growing up, but you sound downright scary right now.
They deserved even more.
Going 3 years trough hell... a broken rib is nothing compared to that.

And yes, it is extreme to do that to a 6 y/o.
I was talking more in general about bullies. I live by the motto "Don't do to others what I don't want them to do to me". So if I do something to someone, he/she is free to do the same to me. But also if someone does something to me, I assume he is happy if I do the same to him.

But yeah, I should have made it clear that I think it's a bit extreme at that age.
 

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Jesus some of you people scare me. The kid was fuckin six years old. Six god damn years old. Do you know what kind of social interaction a six year old has? Fuck all. Do you know what he'll get out of this entire thing? An authority figure had his entire class line up and attack him one by one. He wont realize that bullyin was bad. He wont regret his actions. All he'll know is that teachers shouldn't be trusted.

Here's a fun tidbit from the article.

The mother added -- and the police report confirmed -- that some of Aiden's classroom friends told him that they didn't want to hit the boy but did so because they were afraid not to.
Kids didn't want to hit him but were scared not to hit him. And some sick fucks are condonin this behavior? Just no.
 

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thebobmaster said:
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And? Why is this bad? Bullies suck, and most teachers don't do shit. Maybe there would be less adult bullies too if we all did this. I don't see anyone else trying to stop it, and not only does it cause mental scarring, it also pushes unstable kids to go shoot up schools. I'm sorry, but after being bullied all through school, I'm not sympathetic.
Yes, I'm sure being beaten up by 20 of your peers, and getting 24 injuries as a result (meaning some kids attacked twice) wouldn't cause any mental scarring at all.
He deserved it. In the real world, if you hit someone, you get rocked by everything they've got. Just because he's in school doesn't mean he's immune to karma.
 

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Ergh... Reality, y u make me see both sides?

On the one hand, a teacher allowing students to beat the crap out of each other is obviously a bad thing. On the other, getting revenge on a bully is always an appealing idea, since it tends to never happen in my experience. Clearly, no party is completely innocent, but... Ergh. Having a hard time with this one.
 

Darren716

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Aren't you supposed to be put in time out when you're in kindergarten instead of being physically assaulted by your class mates?
 

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Cheery Lunatic said:
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Well I was pretty shocked until I read the headline... "Texas teacher"... now I'm only shocked the teacher didn't shoot the kid outright.
Oh hey, three posts until we got an ignorant one like this. Record.
Texans really are that worthless. Trust me, I live in this ass backwards state. He's more well informed than you are, apparently.

OT: Stories like this make me laugh. God forbid the deserving reap that which they sow.

Catchpa: in stitches. oddly accurate
 

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the kid is six and you guys are saying he deserved it
He was a lil kid who was ordered to be beaten up by a teacher
He is not the devil He is not a high schooler who enjoys hurting people
He most likely didn't know what he was doing was wrong

And for the record i was dropped out of school due to bullying And i never would ever codone this sort of behaviour and you should all be ashamed of yourselfs for condoning it
violence solves nothing
 

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I actually find the idea of 24 small children wildly beating another child while being egged on by the teacher because he was a bully mildly amusing. But then again I hate children. The teacher was out of line with her methods though. Now, telling one or three kids to hit a bully and telling the bully to take it like a ***** is perfectly fine. Sort of. 24 is a bit much, especially for 6-years old. 3 would have been sufficient, 10 if she wanted to be overzealous about it.
 

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Oh for fuck sake, some of you guys are driving me off the edge of my damn seat here. The kid is six years old, SIX fucking years old. And some of you are praising this bullshit?! Your idea of solving a violent problem is to lower yourself to the level of the other person by doing the same violent shit? A person who is six years old and has no fucking idea what he is doing?! Jesus Christ, seeing shit like this just makes me glad I live out in the middle of nowhere by myself, lest I end up in a community fuelled by a shitty vengeance system.

As for the teacher, fire her arse. Prevent her from getting work that is with young children again.
 

Evil Smurf

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when will people learn that violence solves nothing! It breeds violence!
 

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Does, uh. Does anyone here remember a whole lot, from when they were 6? That kid who was mean to you, yeah? Sure, we all remember that. Everyone had SOME fuckwit bully on their shoulder.

Bullies stop being that big a concern, though, as you grow up. Sure, they're bad- and in some cases very distressing, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to trivialise it- but a single bully can usually at least be evaded, or dealt with by a superior.
You know what never really stops being utterly fucking terrifying? Having an entire room full of people- peers, in fact- LINING UP TO HURT YOU. How is anyone OK with this?

I mean, damn, the kid had friends in that class- "Some of Aiden's classroom friends told him that they didn't want to hit the boy but did so because they were afraid not to."

So, instead of dealing with this like a fucking paid professional, the teacher had this kid's friends punch him. Great.
 

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Midgeamoo said:
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I just hate the think what the kids learned from the incident.
Probably that his classmates are bastards and deserve his bullying all the more.
I meant the kids in that teacher's class who were made to participate in this... thing.
 

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I can see how the accusation of being a bully warrants running the gauntlet...
/sarcasm

Not to mention that being a bully at six years of age probably means he was hogging the toys, or some other stupid childhood problem that most people shed once they've spent a few years among peers.

But whatever, I suppose some members of this community are touchy about bullying. And in any case it's easier to be emotional than rational...
 
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I think the teacher was trying to reenact this scene...


Little critters flying everywhere.

Didn't work out though, which is a shame.
 

BrionJames

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That's pretty fucked up. That being said, I agree with Ma Fratelli in her statement, "Kids suck."
 

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thebobmaster said:
Yes, I'm sure being beaten up by 20 of your peers, and getting 24 injuries as a result (meaning some kids attacked twice) wouldn't cause any mental scarring at all.
from the article:
"Twenty-four of those kids hit him and he said that most of them hit him twice," Amy Neely, the mother of 6-year-old Aiden, told KENS-TV. She did not specify what injuries her son may have received.

so no, not 24 injuries. and that's testimony from someone who wasn't there at the time and whose gotten her information from a bias source (the kid), and thats even if she is sticking strictly to what she's been told(since she herself is also a biased source liable to the same sort of exaggeration you just used). Pretty sure if i was telling mummy about getting hit at school i'd play it up a little too, especially if I was a six year old bully who got in trouble.

From her reaction you know for a fact that had the child actually received any injuries from this, she'd be parading them around as part of her efforts to 'stop the teacher from working in a classroom again'. The fact that no injuries are mentioned means that there were no marks left behind from the incident, also notice the article quotes the police report which would detail any injuries, but such quotation on the subject are absent. (they're a class of regular six year olds who were lined up to give the bully a hit, you know most of them would hardly have even touched him when they 'hit' him, unless texas 6 years olds are tougher/meaner/stronger than the six year olds I know/knew)


XD

Everyone should take the time to learn a bit about media bias, it's really a useful thing to know about... though bobmaster, maybe you don't need to seen as you already seem pretty aware of how to impart spin on details to have them misconstrued in a particular way XD

((if you're not interested in media bais then i guess you can stop reading, but i feel like brining it to the discussion for anyone else who sees my post, cause i find it interesting :p))
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Even an article like this, which seems pretty straight forward at first glance(if you're unfamilar with the tricks they use) is full of media bais. I'm glad i actually learnt about this stuff cause they're doing some pretty blatant manipulation in the article (for example, look how one sided it is, look at the connotations behind the language used, and more importantly look at the selectivity [what is there and what isn't there, and how selective the quotes are. Like I mentioned above about the police report]).

You gotta be careful about that sort of stuff. Think realistically in your head how it may have reasonably played out, rather than an over-dramatised view and you'll be able to pick up on the manipulation a bit better. The teacher doesn't want to get fired more than anyone else would, so it's not like they'd purposely do something blatant enough to get to charged.

looking at the facts subjectively, my guess would be: bully got caught out, teacher decided a good way to teach them some empathy is to switch the situations around.
They got the class together and said 'now i want you to hit him like he hits you'.
kids went around, some did a sissy little brush(like some non-confrontational six year old would), so the teacher said 'no, hit him harder than that'. (at a guess thats probably where the 'kids hitting twice' bit came from, if there were indeed '24' as the mother claimed)
one of the kids decided to hit the bully on the upper back, which is when the other teacher stepped in and put an end to it.

While unprofessional and shouldn't have been done, you shouldn't get caught up in sensationalism. It's kinda scary watching how easily people are manipulated, and the escapist is relatively well educated and sensible(well, most of the time), so you can imagine how this stuff effects the general public on a daily basis.
 

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Although the civilized part of me knows this is wrong... Somehow I don't feel outraged... These brats deserve a good ass whopping, I'm just sad that she used the other kids like this.. She gave them a bad example...
 

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Eamar said:
I remember being six years old.
I don't. I wish I did, I only have flashes of me gnawing on a huge block of cheese and then spilling milk all over it. <.<

I'm going to fall in with the "IT'S A FUCKING SIX YEAR OLD!" crowd on this. Considering the development of children, I doubt this kid learned shit other than to be intensely afraid of peers and teachers. No, violence is never the answer. Except when my future son gets to 17 years old, full of piss and vinegar, and thinks his old man is being a dick for taking his weed away and that he can take me. I'll oblige that battle.
 

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Yeah...there is no reality where this was a good idea. I could to a degree support or at least understand if this situation had occurred naturally, if the class had by their own whims decided to exact a measured revenge of one strike to make the message clear that they weren't going to put up with predators, but we have far ascended past vigilante justice and more into the realm of state-sponsored torture, were we to stretch the political metaphor a bit.