Teacher orders kindergarteners to beat up class "bully"

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Trippy Turtle

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If I was there I would have hit the teacher for suggesting it. She was ten times as the as anything the kid could have done.
 

Dangit2019

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Mr.K. said:
Well I was pretty shocked until I read the headline... "Texas teacher"... now I'm only shocked the teacher didn't shoot the kid outright.
That's just a sick stereotype of Texans...

We don't shoot people, we own guns and then THREATEN to shoot people. Get it right.
 

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What that teacher did was wrong, but what most teachers do is more wrong.

I have more respect for the person who stands up to wrong in the wrong way than the person who doesn't stand up at all.
 

Jolly Co-operator

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This is honestly rather surprising. In addition to being a cruel and potentially traumatizing tactic, it's also very immature. Bullies need to be dealt with, but not with more violence. Especially not with teacher-imposed violence.
 

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Xan Krieger said:
If the kid was a bully then he deserved it and I see nothing wrong here. Bullies will only stop when they realized there are consequences and I think this kid just learned to stop.
Since when did "bully" become to mean "a person that deserves everything wrong in life"? They're kindergartners. Are you seriously telling me kindergartners should be allowed to go all-out on a bully? Really?
 
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Daystar Clarion said:
I think the teacher was trying to reenact this scene...


Little critters flying everywhere.

Didn't work out though, which is a shame.
We all know she was inspired by this song.


Just change the word "Hun" to "bully" and all the kids are the recruits.
 

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Cheery Lunatic said:
Mr.K. said:
Well I was pretty shocked until I read the headline... "Texas teacher"... now I'm only shocked the teacher didn't shoot the kid outright.
Oh hey, three posts until we got an ignorant one like this. Record.
You do realize it's illegal to take all or any kind of weapon onto school grounds unless you're a cop? We have detention and suspension here for discipline. You know, like any other American school.
And San Antonio is a super nice place. I'm surprised this happened there.

OT: I see the thought process, but it's more than a little extreme. She's promoting a very dangerous message to those kids.
Though I doubt that kid is ever gonna bully anyone else again.
I know that feel, bro. All the stereotypes and misconceptions about Texas are really annoying. You're a million times more likely to die of heatstroke than anything gun-related... the concealed carry laws drastically reduced violent crime rates.

Oh, and that teacher's a *****.
 

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Vanitas likes Bubbles said:
Daystar Clarion said:
I think the teacher was trying to reenact this scene...


Little critters flying everywhere.

Didn't work out though, which is a shame.
We all know she was inspired by this song.


Just change the word "Hun" to "bully" and all the kids are the recruits.
She wasn't inspired by a Disney movie, it was a prize fight! I lost fifty bucks!
 

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Personally, I am shocked at this thread.

The amount of stupidity shown in some of the responses are just unbelievable, let me tell you a story. Once upon a time, I was a bully.

I'll let that sink in.

When I was around the age of 8 my parents started separating, and a serious amount of legal battles followed which; being a child, I couldn't comprehend. The resulting lack of money caused the school I was in to treat me differently than the other students. I was an attendant at a very tight-nit community school, where 70% of the students came from the surrounding upper middle class neighbourhood(of which I wasn't part of). Word spread quickly and soon I found that the other students were avoiding me(One student told me that his mother had told him not to talk to me). Eventually the situation got so bad that I was being accused of bad deeds by default.

So, what was a 8 year old me to think of all of this? I couldn't understand the anger or hatred, I couldn't understand the concept of loneliness. emotion isn't a thing children understand very well and as a result, I hurt a lot of other kids. I lashed out at them because in my world nothing made sense, "Why are they happy and I'm not?", "How come they get a nice lunch?" ,"Why is teacher nice to her and not me?".

Does any of this justify what I did? of course not. Nothing can justify violence or mistreatment in any form. But the point is there, I didn't understand a damn thing. Not what I was doing, and not why. 'A taste of your own medicine' doesn't work in a bully situation because in reality, Bullies don't know why they're bullies, and beating them back in some fit of childish bravado isn't right, It doesn't do 'justice' to the bully, it just reverses the roles. At that young of an age, 'getting back' at a bully would be akin to kicking a scared animal.

If you were bullied as a child, then I am truly sorry for what you suffered through, but Violence -regardless of where directed- only causes problems.
 

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Huh. Well, I don't agree with the "violence doesn't solve anything" approach, but honestly it'd be better to teach the other kids to stand up for themselves as individuals than to teach them mob justice. Maybe the next lesson was going to be on torches and pitchforks.

Captcha : One hit wonder.
 

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Midgeamoo said:
Xan Krieger said:
If the kid was a bully then he deserved it and I see nothing wrong here. Bullies will only stop when they realized there are consequences and I think this kid just learned to stop.
So you think Kids should learn that violence solves their problems, and that vicious retaliation is acceptable?

Seriously, how can you even think that this would teach a bully a lesson, most of them have problems and can be quite angry kids, hitting them isn't going to solve anything, not that they should hit them even if it would solve anything.
I feel torn.

This ends badly no matter what you do.

You do this, and the kids learn that violence can solve problems. Which is not a wrong lesson, its just a bad one.

You do nothing, and the bully learns that it can get away with being a bag of shit. Which is not a wrong lesson, just a bad one.

I am a teacher, and I speak from experience when I say, some kids just have a mean streak. And when I say a mean streak I mean evil. The kind that actually laughs heartily when someone falls and really hurts themselves. Or laughs when someone has a genuinely bad experience. I honestly dont know how to deal with these kids. In some cases I can almost believe that such a lesson as in the article would at least do their surroundings some good, but it'll probably be a short term thing.

Kids.
 

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"The mother added -- and the police report confirmed -- that some of Aiden's classroom friends told him that they didn't want to hit the boy but did so because they were afraid not to."

Sounds like the teacher is the bully here.
 

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I kinda have mixed feelings about this. I think that if the bully starts bullying someone then it is a good idea if the other students know that they can stand up for the victim without consequences but I have to question whether just allowing them to do this is a good idea. The bully I think has no defence, if they bullied kids then they are not entitled to any niceness from the other students. That left when they took it from a student.
 

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I like how everyone dodged the post about media bias, and kept right on going with the overly dramatic "OMG U SHUD B ASHAMED FOR CONDONING THIS MONSTROSITY" horseshit. Someone makes a good, logical point but that's not dramatic so let's keep this show going. OUTRAGE WAAH. Give me a fucking break.

I was punished when I was younger. I spoke in class at age 7 and after multiple orders to stop the teacher threw a soaking wet eraser sponge at me. I stopped? Why then and not before? Because I was betting on her not doing anything, and she proved me wrong. But nowadays heaven forbid someone's precious little flower be taught that not following the rules and say... ruining a lesson by talking and interrupting, or bullying the other kids - has CONSEQUENCES.

If anything the people defending this and talking about verbal reprimand or extra homework or some crock should be ashamed. You're willingly blinding yourself to the realities of the world, and if this keeps going there'll be more and more entitled shits ruining the education system because teachers are powerless to stop them. Thank god or whatever I work for the Finnish Defence Forces. Would lose my mind having to watch some snotty punk skate because he can't be touched - literally and metaphorically.