Tell Gearbox Why You Hated Duke Nukem Forever

[MonkeyPunch]

Christ, you guys are a bunch of complaining grammar nazis.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/drawing
Fifth definition. Now shut up.

Not meaning to take sides in this but you can't trust online dictionaries all that much nowadays. A lot of the time they are maintained "by just anyone" or have words added by the general public with little or no supervision.
Heck that dictionary has the word "trustable" in it, for example... which isn't a word

 

[RJ Dalton]

I'm sorry, but I'm not doing this. It's just a questionnaire with a bunch of yes or no questions. It's totally inadequate to properly express my disappointment with the game. Unless you give me the option to actually explain my answers, nothing you'll get from me will help you produce a better game, gearbox.

 

[Lord_Gremlin]

Well, hope they got my message. Loved the humor, loved the story, loved the gore.

Absolutely hated regenerating health, 2 weapon limit and ridiculous loading times on PS3.

 

[Buzz Killington_v1legacy]

Not meaning to take sides in this but you can't trust online dictionaries all that much nowadays. A lot of the time they are maintained "by just anyone" or have words added by the general public with little or no supervision.

You're thinking of things like the Urban Dictionary. The source for that definition of "drawing" is the Random House Dictionary, which is one of the more reputable ones out there.

Heck that dictionary has the word "trustable" in it, for example... which isn't a word

The Oxford English Dictionary disagrees with you. "Trustable" first shows up in print (as "trustible") in 1606.

 

[Terminal Blue]

Heh, that's Duke Nukem 3D. C'mon, even I can tell that, and I've never even played the games

No, that's Duke Nukem 3D.

And yes, Forever is still incredibly ugly by modern standards.

 

[Dendio]

With the textures maxed out on PC it looks pretty good. I hear the console versions are pretty muddy.

 

[Wintermoot]

1. hiding like a wimpy space marine does not increase ego (make your life bar mean something and bring back med kits)
2. Duke has a foot LET HIM USE IT!! (yeah I know fatalities but make it a melee weapon instead of the weapon butt)
3. if a theoretical physicist can carry ~10 weapons why cant Duke carry more then 2?
4. old jokes are old (a Leeroy Jenkins joke in 2010 are you shitting me?)
also mod/res kin support.

 

[Formica Archonis]

I don't want to do the survey in case I win the Duke swag.

And how! Reminds me of a contest we had when I was in school, for a prize of 2 weeks at a "young entrepreneurs" summer camp. I refused to enter (think of a title for something) and when people asked me why, I said I didn't want to risk winning. They thought I was stupid. One of them won. The big winner's first words after finding out? "I don't want to go to summer camp!"

 

[Headdrivehardscrew]

Maybe I am a bit projecting and using up the last little stubborn remains of hope, but I took that survey and I'd like to think its amazingly few questions (without the possiblity of entering a personal fuuuuuuumessage) let me communicate this:

I played the 1990's Duke, and I liked it.
I played the undying new Duke that, alas, should have remained vaporware... and I didn't like it.

So, my fistful of clicks should get this message across: Duke Nukem 2011: Didn't happen. Still waiting. The Duke Nukem "Forever" (More like Duke Nukem Nevermore) we got was a lousy joke. Oh, and the (repeated) questions concerning Duke's humour - hell, it's Duke, I expect him to be sexist, obnoxious and otherwise unpalatable. That's part of what Duke was, is and always shall be. In real life, I would not accept a single one of those utterings without invoking some lawyer or a kick to the nether regions. But that's part of Duke Nukem. The only part they somehow recreated properly in some isolated spots. The technical issues and the modern "generic fps shooter starting here and ending there, please use the path our brilliant minds have prepared for you, thank you" approach just doesn't do Duke Nukem justice. Sure, everything gets turned into a linear FPS with boatloads of story and achievements these days, but this one was already an FPS a decade ago to begin with. Amazing how they could mess it up so badly. A shame, really.

 

[MonkeyPunch]

You're thinking of things like the Urban Dictionary.

The Oxford English Dictionary disagrees with you. "Trustable" first shows up in print (as "trustible") in 1606.

I'm not thinking of UrbanDictionary that's a whole different kettle of fish and only a dictionary in the loosest sense of the word.
Sites like: www.thefreedictionary.com are what I mean (and many others).

Also "trustable" isn't in my copy of the Oxford Dictionary.
Further, "trustable" doesn't make sense as a word. It's composed of two parts "trust" and "able". Able to trust.
Everyone's able to trust anything... that's not what is "being asked" of this word. You are able to trust the most untrustworthy of people (probably to your detriment), but you want to know whether that trust is well placed or not.
It's whether or not the person is worthy of that trust, hence the correct word: "trustworthy".

Wow talk about going miles OT on matters of grammar, in a Duke Nukem thread of all things ^_^
I feel we should rather be arguing over boob sizes and such instead, in a thread devoted to DNF.

 

[Headdrivehardscrew]

Heh, that's Duke Nukem 3D. C'mon, even I can tell that, and I've never even played the games

No, that's Duke Nukem 3D.

And yes, Forever is still incredibly ugly by modern standards.

I would have forgiven ugly, even pixellated if they would have managed to stick to the essence of Duke Nukem 3D. They didn't. Some bits and pieces are spot on, but they are few and far between, especially with all that other odd stuff going on. There's hardly any cake, and way too much rancid bacon frosting. I am not entirely sure about what went wrong, but Duke Nukem Forever is an abomination.

 

[I Have No Idea]

That is probably one of the worst cases of butchering the english language that I have ever seen. Also its not like that on this side of the pond because that would imply its like that everywhere on this side of the pond when it is most definitly not, it is just that way in the US.

Not really. It's a "drawing"...your name is "drawn" (like from a hat, for example) to win the swag. It's not butchering the English language. It's a legitimate phrase. I hate it when people act like the English language is something they created, and they hate to see their baby "butchered" every time someone from another country speaks it differently.

 

[gCrusher]

IMHO, this survey may not have been the best direction for them to go. I did not play DNF, but I did answer truthfully to the questions provided. Nothing hard-hitting, really, almost feel like, "Well if that's your kinda game then you'll -LOVE- DNF! ...what's wrong with you!"

 

[The Lugz]

but you'll also be entered into a drawing to win some Duke Nukem swag. So you've got that going for you.

Not being picky (well, I am) but "drawing"? Am I missing something here? "Draw" surely? (Though it does say Drawing on the survey as well)

a prize draw'ing' is the action of preforming a prize draw
( 'ing' removes the idea of a theoretical object, outside of change and makes it an action )
the form is identical the difference is in the function or the job the word does in the sentence
it basically makes a sentence sound right when a word is used in an active way.

'i'm paint'
versus
'i'm painting'

as nobody is a reflective fluid for colouring objects, we can safely assume the first comment is incorrect

however, you could say:

i'm going to paint
which would make
i'm going to painting

sound like pigeon english, so it matters how the rest of the sentence is arranged

the term 'prize draw'
comes from the old idea of physically drawing, picking up and lifting out, extruding, stretching one's arm down to reach a piece of paper with a name drawn on it out of a hat and drawing it back, as you would a bow and pulling the paper out
it is an elegant use of language, in itself a work of meta-art


'you'll also be entered into a prize draw, for a chance to win some duke swag'

would be a clearer sentence, but I suppose as with most news it was written in a hurry to get onto other topics
but really, in this instance both words are fairly interchangeable i honestly don't see there's a huge issue

we got the point, so np.

 

[viranimus]

I just got the game today, though have yet to install . Ive played the demo,and I have seen large swaths of the game played and much as is usually the case, people ruin everything.

Seriously the game is not that bad. I seriously thing the biggest thing going against Duke is the MEs who played it and could not look over their faux enlightenment to even consider the crude/dark humor. So if you start off on a down note then your more likely to proactively seek out flaws. Really once you look beyond the sexism in the game the complaints about the gameplay were not that it was really bad, but because it wasnt better than the top tier of modern shooters.

So personally I didnt hate it. I think it was just as good as most of the shooters out there today. Definitely not better than anything else, but realistically, not really worse either.

 

[Buzz Killington_v1legacy]

Also "trustable" isn't in my copy of the Oxford Dictionary.

The Oxford English Dictionary, the 20-volume unabridged monster which is pretty much the last word in whether something is in the language or not. You usually have to access it in libraries, but you can get to it online if you have a UK public library card.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

but really, in this instance both words are fairly interchangeable i honestly don't see there's a huge issue

It was more on the quiz where it said to enter your email addy to join the drawing. I literally thought to myself "I can't be bothered to draw something", so I didn't enter.

Just seems a very strange idea for both countries to decide that something is both a noun and a verb simultaneously.

 

[Dfskelleton]

Could this survey be any more generic? I'd like to go into detail about what they did right and what they did wrong. I love the Duke Nukem series, and I sincerely hope that the implied sequel far surpasses DNF.
Also, I just figured out why the humor in DNF was so poorly recieved. In DN3D, Duke was still a self centered chauvanist 80's action movie sterotype, but some of the real humor came from the fact that Duke was a total badass. He was running around carrying 9 ridiculously oversized weapons while maintaining an almost inhuman running speed. He was absorbing shotgun blasts like they were rubber bands flicked against his ridiculously hyper-masculine features. He was flying around with a jetpack, dropping pipe bombs on the heads of his alien foes. He could pull off ridiculous feats of badassery, such as this:
What is Duke in DNF? He's a wuss who can only carry two weapons, who can only take about two shots from a pistol before having to go sit in a corner for a few moments until his health grows back. He could run at the same pace that he walked in DN3D, and can only do so for about 6 seconds before panting like a dog. He never does anything that strikes me as awesome or hilarious as when he carries out his promise to the overlord in DN3D. His gung-ho, manly attitude clashes heavily with the gameplay itself, and that's probably the source of most of DNF's problems. If they would've fixed that, as well as kept the jetpack and non-linearity, than I'm sure that DNF would've been recieved a lot better.