Tera Online looks fucking gorgeous, and it's not a WoW clone!

[laol1999]

world of warcraft clone by the looks of it

everyone knows that wow is just a mario 64 clone, now go sit in the corner and think about what you've done

what do you mean mario 64 is way different then wow

no its not, they are both 3rd person and both have attacks you can do and you can jump in both, case closed

just because its a 3rd person view and you can attack doesn't mean anything
and im pretty sure you can jump in almost any games
if you go by that then they are the same thing as starwars battlefront or tony hawks american wasteland
now go cry to yourself in your basement

 

[Worgen]

world of warcraft clone by the looks of it

everyone knows that wow is just a mario 64 clone, now go sit in the corner and think about what you've done

what do you mean mario 64 is way different then wow

no its not, they are both 3rd person and both have attacks you can do and you can jump in both, case closed

just because its a 3rd person view and you can attack doesn't mean anything
and im pretty sure you can jump in almost any games
if you go by that then they are the same thing as starwars battlefront or tony hawks american wasteland
now go cry to yourself in your basement

you are oblivious to the obvious, of course starwars battlefront is a copy of mario, it got its first person perspective from the ability to look in first person in mario 64, but tony hawks copying mario? thats just stupid, now go back to your corner

 

[Vigormortis]

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How is that different to ANY other MMO thats been put out there for the last what? 20 years? Really we don't mind if you dislike WoW, but don't come into another discussion and start bashing it out of the blue. Seriously, people like you who only wish to share their negative views bug me.
Have you PLAYED the full release game yet? Do YOU have solid proof that it's really a " mindless, over-bloated grind-fest with uninspired design and little to no narrative?" You demand evidence for the contrary but you have no evidence to back the crap coming from your own mouth.
If you aren't interested, great, your choice. But don't come in mindlessly ranting about it being a clone or being bad with zero proof.

Apparently, some of the people in here don't like anyone who isn't madly in love with an MMO. For starters, why are you attacking me for posting my thoughts...in a discussion thread who's creator ASKED PEOPLE TO GIVE THEIR THOUGHTS ON THE GAME? Jesus, it's like you're a fanboy before the game even comes out! Which leads me to the second part of your attack. Have YOU played the final release? No, you haven't. Do YOU have solid proof that it isn't a grind-fest, just like virtually every other MMO? No, you don't. Speaking of which, that is one of the MANY problems with MMOs and the companies designing them lately. Grinding is a lazy excuse for bad gameplay and not having a narrative. And, my evidence of bad design is the video. It looks like it's literally just WoW running on Unreal Engine 3. With simple 3rd person shooting, no less. I'll admit my statements may have been a bit harsh, but I'm sick of companies making these lack-luster MMOs and then pedaling them off as "the best thing since sliced bread".

That's the concept of nearly every MMO ever to exist. You might as well call Tera an Ultima Online clone. That would be like calling Half-Life a Doom clone or calling platformers "Mario Clones"

Not true. Not true at all. There have been MMOs that actually were story driven, that actually played out story lines over time, and ones that weren't just simple "kill X baddies to level" grind-fests. Earth and Beyond comes to mind, as does APB (to a much lesser extent).

Exactly, you can grind while on your couch relaxing.

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wow wow wow hold on there mister judgemental, i was just saying you can play the game while on your couch, I have no ideea if it will be a grindfest or not
but if you have a kill 50 mobs quest you can relax and use the controller

Well, except for you saying, and I quote, "You can grind on your couch...", you're right. You didn't 'specifically' say grind-fest. However, I still find the prospect of getting excited about grinding in a game, just because I can sit on a couch while doing it, rather annoying. That's not to say there aren't other reasons to be excited for the game, though, I've yet to see any. Especially anything beyond the simple looking 3rd person shooter gameplay. All I was saying is, if they're claiming to be changing the dynamic of the MMO and NOT trying to copy WoW, then I'd think they'd try not to (purposefully or not) mimic the look, feel, and mechanics of WoW. Which, I'm still not convinced they've done.

Oh, one last thought... Judgmental? Right, as if the near-hostile responses I've had from my thoughts on the game aren't just that... You can't ask people to discuss the topic and state their own thoughts and opinions, only to then chastise them because they don't feel exactly as you do about it. You asked. I told you. I'm saving my final opinion for when it's released. Until then, either be willing to listen to opposing thoughts, or don't ask people to state them.

 

[godofallu]

As a guy who has played probably 50 MMORPG's I can honestly say that this looks just like every other one ever made in the fantasy genre.

Fantasy character that levels up in a bland world through tedious combat? Check. Collect abilities or spells as you go? Check.

I saw nothing special in that movie, in fact it looked like even the dev was bored and bad at the game.

 

[Dexiro]

MMOTPS, nice

 

[TOGSolid]

Game controller > Mouse and keyboard

The above is in terms of dodging and movement.

Obvious troll is obvious. The lag time with stick movements vs key presses instantly kills whatever argument you're going for.

Obvious troll is obvious. Countering opinions with your own bias is stupid.

Oh and this does look like an inferior version to WoW IMO.

It's not an opinion, it's a fact. Moving your stick from left to right has a longer lag time than simply pushing a key. Toss in the extra motions required just to do, say, a simple dash in Unreal Tournament, and it adds up quick. A keyboard is simply faster thanks to the fact that your fingers barely have to move. Feel free to attempt to argue otherwise.

 

[blankedboy]

Looks a hell of a lot better than most MMOs, however it's still alot like WoW in terms of interface.

I might get it if it doesn't cost per month.

you are oblivious to the obvious, of course starwars battlefront is a copy of mario, it got its first person perspective from the ability to look in first person in mario 64, but tony hawks copying mario? thats just stupid, now go back to your corner

Oh god, I desperately hope you're joking here.

 

[-Samurai-]

It looks ok. I like the concept of an action mmo. If for whatever reason it doesn't have a subscription fee I'll try it.

Same here. Also, it has to come with a free computer, because mine could never run it.

It actually looks to be a pretty good game. I wouldn't mind giving it a try.

 

[SteveeVader]

it kind of looks similar to WoW but to be honest at this point in time. As a former WoW player Mmos are just a huge waste of time, the only one that has my gaze is Star Wars TOR because bioware stated the fact it is mainly story driven and it is the star wars universe. I just think there are so many fantasy Mmo's they just bleed together. I prefer sci fi kind of like my reading tastes plus the who its mostly audio is a huge plus as a Visually Impaired gamer reader texts is tiring yet sometimes interesting and biowares voice artists are fantastic so I can expect top notch audio.

Damn it bioware why are you so good. You're like blizzard in the 90s

 

[PurpleSky]

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Whatever, it's still not a "wow clone" in my eyes.Wow is too basic to have clones.

If you are still at it, look at Aion and Runes of Magic, THOSE are wow clones, but with a few original things of their own, in Aion you can glide and have wings and in RoM you can combine every 2 classes.

Other than that they are EXACTLY basic

this is not basic gameplay, and i'm not talking just about the shooter aspect

again I say BASIC every mmo needs the basic things that wow has

 

[TylerC]

...why is he playing with a controller? Does this game need a controller to play? Why would it need a controller when you've got a perfectly fine keyboard and mouse? I'm not interested in something that makes me use inferior tools :/

Did you even watch the first min. of the video?

This is no way a WoW clone, the people saying that are confusing me.

Never said it was a wow clone, And I probably watched about 40 seconds before skipping through the rest.

I meant the part about the controller. He says you don't need it, you could just use it if you wanted to.

As for the WoW part, that wasn't directed at you but the people who, for whatever reason, think it's a clone.

 

[Quiet Stranger]

He's using a controller on a PC??? Fail

Is it free?

 

[laol1999]

world of warcraft clone by the looks of it

everyone knows that wow is just a mario 64 clone, now go sit in the corner and think about what you've done

what do you mean mario 64 is way different then wow

no its not, they are both 3rd person and both have attacks you can do and you can jump in both, case closed

just because its a 3rd person view and you can attack doesn't mean anything
and im pretty sure you can jump in almost any games
if you go by that then they are the same thing as starwars battlefront or tony hawks american wasteland
now go cry to yourself in your basement

you are oblivious to the obvious, of course starwars battlefront is a copy of mario, it got its first person perspective from the ability to look in first person in mario 64, but tony hawks copying mario? thats just stupid, now go back to your corner

in tony hawk you are in 3rd person view
you can go into first person view
you can jump
you can attack (hitting people with skate board)
by your criteria, your saying they are close to the same game
just because a game has similar aspects doesnt mean its being copyed from the other

 

[cainx10a]

Is it totally wrong that the Poporo's male are bears and the females are little girls? :s

Tera, GW2 and SWTOR are the 3 MMOs I really want to try right now.

 

[Worgen]

world of warcraft clone by the looks of it

everyone knows that wow is just a mario 64 clone, now go sit in the corner and think about what you've done

what do you mean mario 64 is way different then wow

no its not, they are both 3rd person and both have attacks you can do and you can jump in both, case closed

just because its a 3rd person view and you can attack doesn't mean anything
and im pretty sure you can jump in almost any games
if you go by that then they are the same thing as starwars battlefront or tony hawks american wasteland
now go cry to yourself in your basement

you are oblivious to the obvious, of course starwars battlefront is a copy of mario, it got its first person perspective from the ability to look in first person in mario 64, but tony hawks copying mario? thats just stupid, now go back to your corner

in tony hawk you are in 3rd person view
you can go into first person view
you can jump
you can attack (hitting people with skate board)
by your criteria, your saying they are close to the same game
just because a game has similar aspects doesnt mean its being copyed from the other

your still totally and completely wrong, tony hawks is copying the original metroid game since it uses a visual medium and your moving around on wheels, obviously they copied the rolling ball powerup for that and the short beam you start with is short ranged, very similar to being able to hit someone with a skateboard

 

[playinthedark]

It's a mindless, over-bloated grind-fest with uninspired design and little to no narrative.

You just described every MMO I've played and tried desperately to like. One day someone will get it right. I hope.

 

[Vigormortis]

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"Whatever, it's still not a "wow clone" in my eyes.Wow is too basic to have clones."

"every mmo needs the basic things that wow has"

I'll be honest with you, I sincerely hope it isn't "just another MMO or WoW clone". I really do. I'm sick of 'em. Just like I'm sick of generic shooters, adventure games, and RTS games. Game design has gotten REALLY bland and lazy lately. Now, it's not out yet, but this game still looks, based on early videos and descriptions, to be just as generic as every other. Again, I really hope it isn't, but I'm not betting on it. God knows we need someone or something to break the monotony.

I would also argue that MMO's don't need "the basic things" that WoW is based around. The only reason most MMO's do use them is because the developers either are banking on repeating the success of WoW or they have no original idea of their own.

It's a mindless, over-bloated grind-fest with uninspired design and little to no narrative.

You just described every MMO I've played and tried desperately to like. One day someone will get it right. I hope.

My comments were a bit harsh, but believe it or not, there have been a few MMO's that weren't grind-fests and actually had story lines that played out over the course of the games existence. Earth and Beyond, for example. Besides being one of the first sci-fi themed MMO's, it was also one of the first to feature leveling NOT solely based on kill grinding. And, it had missions and stories involving all players that panned out over weeks or months. It was a hell of a lot of fun until EA had finacial problems and closed down the servers Westwood Studios used for the game.

Sadly, many of those kinds of MMO's are no longer running, but there may be one or two still around. Just keep looking.

 

[PurpleSky]

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"Whatever, it's still not a "wow clone" in my eyes.Wow is too basic to have clones."

"every mmo needs the basic things that wow has"

I'll be honest with you, I sincerely hope it isn't "just another MMO or WoW clone". I really do. I'm sick of 'em. Just like I'm sick of generic shooters, adventure games, and RTS games. Game design has gotten REALLY bland and lazy lately. Now, it's not out yet, but this game still looks, based on early videos and descriptions, to be just as generic as every other. Again, I really hope it isn't, but I'm not betting on it. God knows we need someone or something to break the monotony.

I would also argue that MMO's don't need "the basic things" that WoW is based around. The only reason most MMO's do use them is because the developers either are banking on repeating the success of WoW or they have no original idea of their own.

It's a mindless, over-bloated grind-fest with uninspired design and little to no narrative.

You just described every MMO I've played and tried desperately to like. One day someone will get it right. I hope.

My comments were a bit harsh, but believe it or not, there have been a few MMO's that weren't grind-fests and actually had story lines that played out over the course of the games existence. Earth and Beyond, for example. Besides being one of the first sci-fi themed MMO's, it was also one of the first to feature leveling NOT solely based on kill grinding. And, it had missions and stories involving all players that panned out over weeks or months. It was a hell of a lot of fun until EA had finacial problems and closed down the servers Westwood Studios used for the game.

Sadly, many of those kinds of MMO's are no longer running, but there may be one or two still around. Just keep looking.

For the one thousand'ft time, I am recommending people here a game that will be released soon, World of Tanks, I'm in the closed beta.

There has never been such a fresh and simple MMO ideea in years.And it will be free to play.
Each man has a tank/tank destroyer/artilery, fight!
Oh and a clan is like a country, it can conquer areas and be able to build it's own super tanks.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

Graphics look pretty nice, but it does look like a WoW clone. Sure, you can dodge, but other than that it looks the same.

I have to disagree with this (and all the rest who say essentially this). In order to be a "clone" presumably a game has to copy virtually every mechanic in the game. A short (and non inclusive) list would look like this:

Tiered advancement system with progression mediated through a reward system based upon killing NPCs and completing quests.
Single button action interface where each button is associated with a particular action. Actions may or may not have a cooldown.
Limited mobility in combat controlled by ensuring certain actions cannot be done while moving. Relatively large areas of effect for actions make the utility of motion questionable in many cases.
Player roles determined primarily through a series of classes with a defined job that said class is best suited for.

Based on little more than watching a not at all informative video, I'd say it would be difficult to determine which of these hold true. Clearly the character has a degree of mobility and the implication is that combat is skill based rather than single button based. Tiered progression and defined player roles are so common that even if such things were included I wouldn't think it fair to claim "clone" as a result as such mechanics are the de facto standard for RPGs.

Of course, I have seen many games that desperately tried to convince me they were something besides a clone. Sometimes, they were unashamedly a clone with a slightly different emphasis on what I'd be spending my time doing (Warhammer for example). Other times they turned out to be a clone with a minor twist (LOTRO, which often features a sort of combo system with no direct equivalent in WoW). Then still other times it was a clone of the game that WoW was a clone of (Everquest for those who don't remember that little flame war), which would include Vanguard. Then there are games that really did try and be different but ended up sucking for one reason or another (Fallen Earth's terrible control ruined the Action MMO, Age of Conan was just dreadfully boring and a haven for griefers, Tabula Rasa was basically the precursor to Fallen Earth and so forth). The bottom line is, I would like to believe it will be different and good but I've heard that promise far too many times to base my opinion on a preview like this.