Is this The Ricky Gervais, or some user on a board with that as his username?hazabaza1 said:
Anyway I can't see anything wrong with sharing games.
Terraria coming to XBLA/PSN, PC users pissed
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Anyway I can't see anything wrong with sharing games.
Apparently I'm typing this message from an alternate universe that got the 1.1 patch last November, where they added those new biomes, items, mechanics and an entire new difficulty.Matthew94 said:
If you want, I can attempt to send you the patch through whatever hole in the multiverse you're receiving this through, but it might take a while since we would have to use quantum entanglement.
He officially dropped plans for development of those when he discontinued support for the game early this year.Matthew94 said:
Disappointing, but hardly grounds for the elitism and entitlement I see being peddled on the boards.
I've read over your posts again for fairness sake.Matthew94 said:
My take:
When he provided that roadmap, the game was damn near leaked, so they had to launch immediately. I remember this clearly, since I bought the game within the first week of launch. It was very, very unfinished (crafting wooden planks was an absolute chore since you had to click for each one).
Redigit moved onto another similar project, bought a house and had his first child.
It's not an excuse from a business perspective, but that's life-changing shit right there.
Redigit isn't a large developer who can hand the workload off to another group, he is the effective owner and main programmer for Terraria. The other people who co-developed Terraria with him had started a new project around the time 1.1 finished.
Long story short, he could either support the game solo, or wait for a break and work on something else. He chose the latter.
Was I disappointed? Yes. I was very disappointed early this year when he pulled the plug.
Do I think he was secretly developing a version for consoles by himself that includes tons of new content PC gamers won't see?
If his Starbound work-blog and posts are any indication, no. He's been working primarily on that game instead.
I suspect the publisher that signed him (505, I think) is handling most of the actual port-work (most publishers worth their salt employ platform-specific programmers; Gearbox cut their teeth doing mostly ports, for example), and I imagine most of that is adapting the game's interface to work on a 360.
That is my interpretation of things, but since ALL of this knee-jerk bullshit has been an interpretation of events, it's no less valid.
Unless the console version of Terraria includes a significant amount of new content that we won't get in the PC version, I cannot work myself into this blind rage that seems to have taken so many.
(for reference, the last bit of "exclusive content" was the special box version of Terraria, and that included a bunny that did NOTHING. I'm not terribly worried here.)
On one level I'm hugely surprised at the negativity...on the other...well, I guess it's to be expected.
Oh come on people you put random internets spurges in your threads now? How about we go to 4chan for some comments on these matters next.
OT: It is a rather strange move because Terraria itself was sold under the Minecraft business model of "buy alpha, get all updates", and Re-Logic(Terraria devs) said that they did all they intended with Terraria, yet here we are with both of those statements looking shady.
I do maintain that the amount of content they brought with updates is more then enough for the asking price, but if you built your fanbase on certain principles it's a really bad idea to smash them as soon as you are done with them.
Re-Logic you got more games coming, don't piss in your own pot like this.
OT: It is a rather strange move because Terraria itself was sold under the Minecraft business model of "buy alpha, get all updates", and Re-Logic(Terraria devs) said that they did all they intended with Terraria, yet here we are with both of those statements looking shady.
I do maintain that the amount of content they brought with updates is more then enough for the asking price, but if you built your fanbase on certain principles it's a really bad idea to smash them as soon as you are done with them.
Re-Logic you got more games coming, don't piss in your own pot like this.
Call it a difference of perspective, but if circumstances have changed to allow for a port to proceed, then that's exactly what I see it as.Matthew94 said:
Because the alternative hypothesis I'm seeing everywhere is just...incredibly stupid.
Most of this stems from PC gamers kind of getting screwed over since the beginning of the current console generation.
As much as I hate to go there, it's the real heart of the matter.
And normally, I too voice complaints about shoddy port-jobs, or how so much of gaming was centered SOLELY on the console platform (tech, interface, and demographics).
But here? Terraria is getting ported, verbatim, TO consoles.
We aren't...losing anything.
"Potential content"?
Maybe, but everything exists as a potential until it's actually made. I have seen a great deal of wasted potential in gaming, but I don't break out the torches and pitchfork when it happens.
It isn't development on anything new beyond the nebulous amount of content, which again, probably won't amount to much. It's copy and paste to a different platform. Like I said, Redigit probably doesn't have to do much of anything (or if he doesn't know how to code for the PS3/360 natives, he CAN'T on his own).
And if Redigit *IS* going to load it up with LOTS of new content, then I don't see any reason for him to withhold it from the PC versions either. He would only be denying himself a surge in PC sales.
Of course they're in it for the money, you idiotic, elitist twats. What, did you think they blatantly copied minecraft to a 2D format because they just wanted to make a fun game for everyone to enjoy because they felt like it? Gamers think far too much with their hearts and not enough with logic.
Of course they want money.
That's why it was first created.
They made a fun game and got your money.
It may have been a labor of love, but beneath that it was about the money.
Don't try and climb the bullshit tree to scoff at the devs, because 9 times out of 10 you'd do exactly the same thing. And this way they also make the game more accessible.
Of course they want money.
That's why it was first created.
They made a fun game and got your money.
It may have been a labor of love, but beneath that it was about the money.
Don't try and climb the bullshit tree to scoff at the devs, because 9 times out of 10 you'd do exactly the same thing. And this way they also make the game more accessible.
I'm talking about the game's website when the announced "no more updates" around a year ago. Now I get that they're pissed about the new content going for consoles but honestly, they're waaaaaay to immature in the way their handling it.Matthew94 said:
See another "Facebook Gaming Fiasco" was the Retro City Ransom Facebook page. People went there to vent, but at least they had a good reason to be really pissed. A May release date was announced. If you look at your calender you'll see that its September. And with very, very little information on when a release date will be announced, RCR attracted a bit of a reputation as the new "Duke Nukem Forever". They have even more reason to be pissed because RCR has pre-orders taken in from months ago.
These fans are just butthurt.
I don't see how you can arbitrarily say that the fans (I'm assuming you mean the ones who are upset) are "butt-hurt". Different people express dissatisfaction in different ways, does that render their arguments invalid? It's easy as pie to defer to the crowd and say that we're all crazy, and it may get you a few karma votes on various internet forums. But the bottom line is that Redigit screwed the PC consumer, in a calculated and precise manner. I'm not knocking the man personally, because with all the money he made with Terraria, I'm not sure if I wouldn't have done the same. Money is the culprit in this case, I'm sad to say.
Actually yes I did. I know the issue with RCR's lack of a release has to do with the fact that its creator is selling it on as many platforms as possible, making the legal work to get it released a nightmare, but RCR situation was handled pretty badly by the creator. I and many others pre-ordered the PC version (the only version you can pre-order) before its supposed May release. Its now September and all we've seen is screenshots of the game. Hell even on its official website it still only shows 2 year old gameplay footage. Anyone who gave money to RCR has to wait on the approval of its non-PC versions before any release date is set and that's a legitimate problem.Matthew94 said:
Being mad about console players getting bonus content for a game that already has had a massive amount of additions just seems petty.
With RCR
Call it elitism, call it whatever you want, the story of Terraria's development is fucked up.
They start releasing videos showcasing their game, and immediately it gets a following, and people love it, and start demanding its release. To begin with, that's silly - the only game off the top of my head I can think of that did that was Minecraft.. but they did. And it was alright, but you could complete all of the content in a couple of days, which is alright I guess for a 10 dollar game, but they had big plans, and everyone was really excited.
1.1 launched, and it was pretty good, lots of nifty stuff put into it, and the game was selling like hotcakes. Youtube gaming celebs started pushing the game hard, and tons of people get swept up in it.
Then Red decided to go about his business and close down production, despite the promises he'd made. And I think most people were supportive. Disappointed, but we get it, if you have life stuff to take care of, go, take care of them, so long and thanks for all the fish. Most people I imagine largely forgot about the game after a couple months of it being dead. We were fine with it being just one of those games that disappointingly came to an end before its time.
Then this. In my mind, either Terraria's dead, or it's not, and if it's not, continue the development as you planned to from the start, don't just make a cheap console port and flip everyone who bought your game and promoted your game the bird. That's not cool.
If it is dead, let it die. But clearly it's not, and until we get real word that PC development is continuing, it won't be cool, not with me, not with a lot of people. If it is, then marzeltoff, we'll maybe see some of the things that were promised, and that would be awesome.
So maybe some of the people on Facebook are a little more obscene in their anger then we tend to be here, but that doesn't mean there isn't a grain of truth in their rage.
They start releasing videos showcasing their game, and immediately it gets a following, and people love it, and start demanding its release. To begin with, that's silly - the only game off the top of my head I can think of that did that was Minecraft.. but they did. And it was alright, but you could complete all of the content in a couple of days, which is alright I guess for a 10 dollar game, but they had big plans, and everyone was really excited.
1.1 launched, and it was pretty good, lots of nifty stuff put into it, and the game was selling like hotcakes. Youtube gaming celebs started pushing the game hard, and tons of people get swept up in it.
Then Red decided to go about his business and close down production, despite the promises he'd made. And I think most people were supportive. Disappointed, but we get it, if you have life stuff to take care of, go, take care of them, so long and thanks for all the fish. Most people I imagine largely forgot about the game after a couple months of it being dead. We were fine with it being just one of those games that disappointingly came to an end before its time.
Then this. In my mind, either Terraria's dead, or it's not, and if it's not, continue the development as you planned to from the start, don't just make a cheap console port and flip everyone who bought your game and promoted your game the bird. That's not cool.
If it is dead, let it die. But clearly it's not, and until we get real word that PC development is continuing, it won't be cool, not with me, not with a lot of people. If it is, then marzeltoff, we'll maybe see some of the things that were promised, and that would be awesome.
So maybe some of the people on Facebook are a little more obscene in their anger then we tend to be here, but that doesn't mean there isn't a grain of truth in their rage.