**Terror in Oslo** UPDATE: Anders Breivik gets 8 weeks of custody
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Okay! [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_London]Hammeroj said:
Most terrorist attacks in europe are committed by christians, not muslims.
Yeah, but those countries are in Africa. When people talk about Christianity and Islam, they really mean white people and brown people.evilthecat said:
Even though the future of Christianity is in Africa, they don't really count. Islam is just the bugbear that makes us feel good about ourselves, allowing us to forget the perfect pinnacle of barbarism we reached as recently as 1945, and imagining that the past is irrelevant and has been completely undone. We have always been better from the start, because we are better off today. Because women gained equality in the last half-century after two millennia of oppression, somehow the essential tolerant quality of Christian civilization is assured, whereas Islam is forever backwards and misogynistic.
And Europe is rapidly regressing towards its past of genocidal extremism. When there aren't neo Nazis winning votes like Mullah Omar wins virgins in heaven, then we'll talk.
I guess this post might be a bit dangerous but fuck it.Killerowl said:
My brother says he is not a racist, he is simply racially aware and tbh...I get it.
The world is made of gray mostly. There is not much black and white. I think people should tone down the racism card a bit. Personally I dont want more "foreigners" whatever that means, to my country. Not because I hate them, not because I think they are stupid or worth less (I dont)....but because sometimes people just dont mix. If people stayed where they belonged...this would not happen so easily.
Of course I'm not stupid enough to think international politics, oil interest...ET CETERA have nothing to do with it...but in the end...its kinda like a marriage...sometimes there are irreconcilable differences, and people just can not play together.
That said...I dont like religion. Any religion. But least of all Islam. Sure there is a mountain of people that dont really blow themselves up. But there are some who do too. They wouldnt have this crazy excuse and the hope for a dozen virgins or whatever the fuck it is as they do now. Some other stupid excuse would surely be found, but with the decline of religion...enlightenment would follow and at least people would have somewhat reasonable explanations to blow each other away.
Uff. What a stupid, fucked up world. I could have done such a better job than this.
Here we are watching a tragedy unfold and some of us feel it's appropriate to use this time to ridcule religions. Stop it please. This is not the appropriate place or time.
Why do you assume that it was Muslim Extremists that did it? We don't know for sure yet.Ritter315 said:
Answering your question: I'll tell you exactly why Muslim extremists would want to attack Nordic countries: They have the most "un-Islamic" society in the world.
Their society is EXTREMELY open to sex, homosexuality, alcohol(binge drinking an ancient tradition. Denmark doesn't even have an age limit for alcohol), and they have some of the lowest amount of religious people in the world. Attacking these countries would be a very large badge of honor, indeed.
Not only that, but Muslim extremists are pissed that the huge number of Muslim immigrants are conforming to this society. There was an extremist in Sweden around Christmas this year that was shooting immigrants that didn't act "Muslim" enough. One of my girlfriends friends, of Muslim descent, needed to stay in Denmark until it was over.
Lets remember that Muslim Extremists just want to go to heaven and have sex with virgins. If it means that they attack the opposite of "Muslim" society in their eyes, than they will do it.
They don't. That's an outright lie or, if you want to be generous, a very selective mistranslation (of 'Houri' as 'Virgin', although how the hell you arrive at that is beyond even my limited grasp of arabic terminology). Europeans outright made that one up.tzimize said:
That said, Qur'anically suicide is a sin. Run the implications of that through your mind for a moment.
So between the shooting and the bomb, only 7 dead? These "terrorists" need to get their act together. They seem to be losing their touch.
If you want real terrorist, look no further than us Americans. Face it, we are assholes. We bomb 3rd world countries just for fun (See Korea, Vietnam, and Afghanistan). What other country would have looked at a truck and decided it wasn't big enough and turned it into a monster truck?
Disregarding the nonsensical last paragraph, we really are the biggest terrorists in history. We committed the biggest SINGLE act of terrorism. I would call it the bloodiest single act, but all blood was vaporized. I am of course talking about our atomic bombing of Hiroshima. Around 200,000 died during the blast and the radiation is still causing problems. So Mr. Muhammad has a LONG way to go before he can match us.
And for those saying Christians are better people than the evil muslim terrorists, go on wikipedia and research the:
If you want real terrorist, look no further than us Americans. Face it, we are assholes. We bomb 3rd world countries just for fun (See Korea, Vietnam, and Afghanistan). What other country would have looked at a truck and decided it wasn't big enough and turned it into a monster truck?
Disregarding the nonsensical last paragraph, we really are the biggest terrorists in history. We committed the biggest SINGLE act of terrorism. I would call it the bloodiest single act, but all blood was vaporized. I am of course talking about our atomic bombing of Hiroshima. Around 200,000 died during the blast and the radiation is still causing problems. So Mr. Muhammad has a LONG way to go before he can match us.
And for those saying Christians are better people than the evil muslim terrorists, go on wikipedia and research the:
Research the real one, as well as the Monty Python one
Thats in Oslo, as well as several badly injured. Utøya is not included in that number, that situation is still unfolding. There are unconfirmed reports that the police engaged and shot a man on Utøya 30 minutes ago, and they are conducting a search of the island.e033x said:
I didn't know anything about this until I came onto the escapist. I really hope everyone is okay and that they can figure everything out. I hope this doesn't change a wonderful country like Norway like 9-11 did for the US.
Alright here's some information. The military are surrounding the capital. The shooter has been arrested for almost an hour. There is a connection between the bombing and the shooting the police say. Gro Harlem Bundtland was most likely never there, she was scheduled to hold a speech. She is the ex prime minister of Norway.
Since I dont have the knowledge to dispute you on that I wont. And I trust what you say is true, there is a lot of stupid prejudice, misunderstandings and worse on both sides.evilthecat said:
The fact still stands though that it is a lot easier to make a person commit a crazy (sometimes suicidal) act with the promise of a fantastic afterlife or that his act is righteous in the eyes of god than it is to logically convince someone without the aid of religion. So I still say: Fuck religion.
Edit: And because of my hatred of irrational idiots, and my refusal to become afraid because some less-than-a-monkey wants me to....I'll go party with my friends tonight and have a great time. If only to spite anyone who wants me afraid.
Fuck you world, fuck you terrorists. I hope you die in a fire and that whatever afterlife/death awaits...it will suck for you.
damn dude, you beat cnn to the punch! i saw your post before the cnn coverage showed up on my google news thingy on my homepage.Pinkamena said:Around 15:20 GMT+1, today (22.07), several explosions went off in Oslo, Norway. The cause is still unknown, and the casualties are unknown, but feared to be large. The bombs went off near the government buildings, blowing windows out of many buildings are starting fires.
CNN Article: http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/07/22/blast-rips-through-norways-capital-injuries-reported/?hpt=hp_t1
Live feed (norwegian): http://www.nrk.no/nett-tv/direkte/nrk1/
The Prime Minister is in safety.
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I will update the post as more news are coming in.
Update: One person is confirmed dead.
Update: Police confirms it was a bomb, making it an act of terror.
Update: Two persons confirmed dead.
Update: Ten persons confirmed with serious injuries.
Update: A person dressed as police has begun shooting wildly on a political youth camp with 700 teens at Utøya, Buskerud. Political person Gro Brundtland were supposedly there.
Update: Utøya shooter captured. Nordic appearance. 5 dead on utøya.
OT: best regards to the victims. car bombers are douchebags.
Human evil isn't limited to places of conflict or places of interest.
Still, I wouldn't have expected to wake up and read about a massacre in Norway.
Sickening.
Still, I wouldn't have expected to wake up and read about a massacre in Norway.
Sickening.