**Terror in Oslo** UPDATE: Anders Breivik gets 8 weeks of custody

[Neonit]

this is not good. it just goes to show how easy nowadays such things can be done.

but whats worse than the explosion itself, if this happens to be indeed an terrorist attack by muslims.... this will lead to even more xenophobia. and more extremists. gah, why people must be so immature. its bullshit like this that leads to muslim suicide squads, and nazi rallies.....

up: Ireland? people kill there each other because of different interpretations of bible, or am i mistaken? no suicides, but molotovs. (i dont live in ireland so dont shout at me if i understand the situation wrong)

 

[Llil]

I really hope this thread doesn't derail into a religion vs religion one, it's already heading there.

I'm a bit afraid of what will happen next when the politicing gets started. Hopefully things will calm down quickly.

 

[Chibini]

Wow I'm surprised this reached the mass media so quickly. Coming from Norway myself, and thought this would be ignored for at least a couple of days. There's been numerous attempts, but the bombs always turned out to be duds or too weak to hurt anybody.

Not this time though... Hope our prime minister finally understand that we need stricter immigration and deportation laws. A well known terrorist ("Mullah Krekar" look him up) has been able to live comfortably here for way too long, and thugs coming from nations with death penalty cannot be deported.

Sigh

This rant would be pretty hilarious if it all proved to be a an accidental gas-explosion or something.

 

[Deadlock Radium]

A friend of mine and his family were in one of the streets where the bomb apparently went off, though they couldn't see the explosion. They were in the car, so they are unharmed, and has left Oslo.

According to Norwegian media, there's several dead and many injured. It is believed to be one or several car bombs, and a lot of people are apparently blaming the muslims.

Also, a lot of people claim that they heard and felt the explosion as far as 20-40 minutes away.

For those who wonder what we might have done to "deserve" a bomb:
- We are still in Afghanistan fighting Al Qaeda and Taliban or whatevs, and those two opposing force "factions" have in the past said that we'll pay.
- We've also made quite a bad impression on the people in countries with muslim religions because some years ago, some guy made a caricature of Mohammad, their holy prophet. This infuriated a lot of muslims, and I believe they are still burning flags and Norwegian stuff down there, as well as right after the caricatures, they started assaulting Norwegian Embassies.
EDIT:- We have bombed quite a lot of Libya lately.

Still, it's unreal that something like this could happen here in little Norway, though I live on the other side of the country.

 

[DarksideFlame]

If this is a terrorist attack then why? Why the hell would anyone do this against us the only things we have done recently is fighting against al-qaeda and Taliban but we aren't really major players there and some twat drew the Mohammad caricatures a couple years back which we realised after publishing them was a fucking bad idea

I am furious now and this is and I can't believed how anyone can justify this evil action

 

[razerdoh]

We did not fucking deserve this we shelter a lot of refugees from all over the world, we donate a shitload of money to charity to help countries suffering from famines and conflicts and we help negotiate peace in countries with conflicts

I cannot think of a single fucking thing we have done in recent years that can justify this

Whoever is behind this behind this I would really like to hear your motives for doing this

then bomb the shit out of them!

 

[TitanDrone]

Related: Denmark has raised it's alertlevel. The paper (Jyllandsposten) that printed a series of drawings, some of which the radical Islamist took offense to, and the Norwegian embassy has had it's security tightened.

NRK (norway television) reports two confirmed dead.

Norway police: "it is an act of terror."

 

[Artina89]

I have friends that live in Oslo. I really hope they are OK. I will be checking Facebook until I get confirmation that they are OK. I can't really think of anything they have done to provoke a terrorist attack.

 

[Pinkamena]

What this guy said ^^^^^^

 

[Michael Logan]

Something I don't like about this is all the people jumping on the "muslims did it" bandwagon.
Just check the comments on the youtube video and see what I mean.

Yes, this was probably done by an EXTREMIST muslim group. Don't judge all of them because what very few of them does.

It pisses me off!

An extremist muslim is still a muslim. So, if a muslim extremist group did this, the people saying "muslims did it" are, in fact, factually correct.

Yes, it is. But that was not my point.
I don't like that they try to put all muslims in the same group!

Racism is just going to get worse in this country after this.

Well, they do all get their 'moral' teachings from the same books. The fact that followers of islam in general are more violent and intolerant than the followers of christianity, for instance, speaks volumes for the reason of xenophobia towards muslims.

Look at me, railing on muslims like that. If I say much more, I'm likely to get warned, so enough about them.

It's funny that you say that because throughout history, christianity has been a very violent religion. The Crusades, I'm looking at you.

And the Bible is full of bad morals, and so is the Quran, mainly because they both are old outdated books. But both books also contain good morals.

And christians being more tolerant and less violent; there's no truth in that, unless you can show me proof. Don't try to blame all the muslims for what very few of them does.

I dont like that argument Both christianity and islam was created at about the same time in history. The crusades happened a 1000 years ago, this is happening now.

 

[Deadlock Radium]

We did not fucking deserve this we shelter a lot of refugees from all over the world, we donate a shitload of money to charity to help countries suffering from famines and conflicts and we help negotiate peace in countries with conflicts

I cannot think of a single fucking thing we have done in recent years that can justify this

Whoever is behind this behind this I would really like to hear your motives for doing this

then bomb the shit out of them!

Yeah, that'll really help our reputation with angry extremists/nations..

Though we're really nice, there's a lot of people that hate us. Believe it or not.
There's also a lot of refugees that go to Norway and get asylum, though they are not happy with the treatment they get here because of xenophobia, and therefore many of them do not become integrated in "accepted" societies in Norway, and join gangs etc.
I'm sorta jumping to conclusions here, but there's still some truth to the statement over.

Captcha is "Happy Blessings"
Dunno if that's convenient right now, seeing that one of my friends were very close to the explosion.

 

[Tdc2182]

And what the fuck has Norway done?

My thoughts exactly.

I'm glad that it's only a few confirmed dead as of right now. With an explosion like that, I think we should be considering it a small mercy.

 

[Ninjasander]

It's funny that you say that because throughout history, christianity has been a very violent religion. The Crusades, I'm looking at you.

And the Bible is full of bad morals, and so is the Quran, mainly because they both are old outdated books. But both books also contain good morals.

And christians being more tolerant and less violent; there's no truth in that, unless you can show me proof. Don't try to blame all the muslims for what very few of them does.

I'm talking about now, and I'm talking in general. Point me to the christian suicide bombers who killed dozens of people and all the christian theocracies out there, and then we'll talk.

At no point did I blame all the muslims, but that's mainly because I don't have the time or patience to go into details.

Like you, I didn't want to go into detail.
But here's a link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

But don't try to tell me that any religion is better than the other, because they aren't.

Also, did you know that only 6% of all the terrorist attacks done in the U.S. are done by muslims?

EDIT: But lets stop before we turn this thread into religion vs. religion, someone has already commented on it. If you want to continue this discussion, lets do it with PMs.

 

[Pinkamena]

Guys, please lets stay on topic...

 

[flamingjimmy]

Believe it or not, if this is an extremist muslim group that's done this, you don't have to have done anything. They'll want to kill you simply because you're not of the same faith (or none at all).

Actually no, that's not true, if it is an extremist Muslim group, it will have been due to their involvement in the middle east, not because they are different faiths.

 

[Warforger]

Something I don't like about this is all the people jumping on the "muslims did it" bandwagon.
Just check the comments on the youtube video and see what I mean.

Yes, this was probably done by an EXTREMIST muslim group. Don't judge all of them because what very few of them does.

It pisses me off!

Well not just that, while they may be the first to be assumed responsible we don't know much as of now so it's a bit irrational to automatically assume some Muslims did it even if it's likely or even if they came from Afghanistan, mainly because the War on Terror is everywhere, from North Africa to the Philippines.

EDIT: 11:58 AM Pacific Oh and what do you know! He doesn't seem to be from the Middle East. But I'm not going to go ahead and rub it in the Islamophobic people's faces because he could be Muslim.

 

[blipblop]

Something I don't like about this is all the people jumping on the "muslims did it" bandwagon.
Just check the comments on the youtube video and see what I mean.

Yes, this was probably done by an EXTREMIST muslim group. Don't judge all of them because what very few of them does.

It pisses me off!

An extremist muslim is still a muslim. So, if a muslim extremist group did this, the people saying "muslims did it" are, in fact, factually correct.

Yes, it is. But that was not my point.
I don't like that they try to put all muslims in the same group!

Racism is just going to get worse in this country after this.

Well, they do all get their 'moral' teachings from the same books. The fact that followers of islam in general are more violent and intolerant than the followers of christianity, for instance, speaks volumes for the reason of xenophobia towards muslims.

Look at me, railing on muslims like that. If I say much more, I'm likely to get warned, so enough about them.

It's funny that you say that because throughout history, christianity has been a very violent religion. The Crusades, I'm looking at you.

And the Bible is full of bad morals, and so is the Quran, mainly because they both are old outdated books. But both books also contain good morals.

And christians being more tolerant and less violent; there's no truth in that, unless you can show me proof. Don't try to blame all the muslims for what very few of them does.

I dont like that argument Both christianity and islam was created at about the same time in history. The crusades happened a 1000 years ago, this is happening now.

no it was not created the same time, islam is the youngest of those religions

 

[Indeterminacy]

Is it definitely an Islamic Terrorist agenda? What was attacked was a building belonging to the department for petroleum and energy - seems like attacking Norwegian state oil would be an unusual move for an Islamic fundamentalist.

 

[fenrizz]

I feel sick, and I'm very, very glad that my wife and our children decided to not go to Oslo today after all.

I feel for all the affected families, they have my deepest sympathies.

I feel sick...