**Terror in Oslo** UPDATE: Anders Breivik gets 8 weeks of custody
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/world/europe/23oslo.html?_r=1
Nytimes claim an extremeist group called Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami, or the Helpers of the Global Jihad, issued a statement claiming responsibility for the attack, according to Will McCants, a terrorism analyst at C.N.A.
But so far that's only one source so I dont know if its true or not/
Nytimes claim an extremeist group called Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami, or the Helpers of the Global Jihad, issued a statement claiming responsibility for the attack, according to Will McCants, a terrorism analyst at C.N.A.
But so far that's only one source so I dont know if its true or not/
The second link mentions the first instance of a suicide bombing... carried out by a christian. Yes, Christians INVENTED suicide bombing. Try harder.Jerubbaal said:
The third link includes the Gunpowder Plot. Guy Faulkes. Yeah. Totally nothing to do with explosions or christianity. Try harder.
The fourth link is about a christian leader who is actively calling for christian suicide bombing. Try harder.
But oh yeah... christian suicide bombings could NEVER happen. That's some new islam thing, right?
Please, do ignore Irish history.
Please, do ignore Cyprus.
Of course, this is just examples of suicide bombing for christianity... this doesn't include wackjobs strapping a bomb to their chest that just happen to be christian. Or other acts of terror that are committed by people who happen to be christian but aren't religiously motivated.
You can live in a world where islam invented it and have the monopoly, or you can live in the real world where people have all sorts of reasons to kill each other and Allah is the least likely one in western civilization.
The NYT found their news on a Jihadi forum, a link to which can be found Here [http://www.fastcompany.com/1768726/oslo-terrorists-allegedly-claim-responsibility-via-jihadi-forums-youtube]. According to the link posted, the Jihadist group have since redacted their claims and a 404 now appears on the original thread.JB1528 said:
That's the internet for you.drisky said:
But I feel kind of bad when I start it in a thread about a terrorist attack, the first, in my country!
If this is true then the far right are going to start causing problems for the govenmentJB1528 said:
You have a serious problem with the particular word that's important here: suicide.DracoSuave said:
Guy Fawkes wasn't a suicide bomber. The IRA don't blow themselves up in the process of attacking the British. In short, the idea of suicide bombing is abhorrent to the Western Christian psyche. It certainly could happen that a Christian commits a suicide bombing, but it simply isn't the norm, and were it to happen I find it difficult to see it happening anywhere remotely close to how often it has been used by Muslim extremists and the Tamil Tigers.
I guess my whole point is that there is something, whether culturally, religiously, or otherwise (or a combination of those things) that gives Muslim extremists the propensity to commit suicide bombings. This is a propensity that simply does not exist in Western Christian culture. And that's what you seem to fail to grasp.
Here's a pic from Utøya. I don't know if the people in this picture are dead or alive, but it is censored so I fear the worst.
These are the trends I was referring to: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/16/france-farright-europe-idUSLDE70D1IU20110116this isnt my name said:
The BNP are pretty lightweight, but elsewhere in Europe things aren't so pretty.
In Romania, the Roma are subjected to terrorist attacks by rightwing thugs armed with grenades and and assault rifles. Meanwhile, a party with a blatantly racist anti-Roma platform gets over 9% of the vote.
And Hungarian fascists hold popular rallies in downtown Budapest, mere feet away from where the city's Jews were shot and dumped in to the Danube in 1944.
I'm not saying all that stuff is going to happen again, I'm saying that there is an ideological and moral shift where large parts of the electorate no longer oppose bigotry and discrimination.
So why is that important? So Muslims blow themselves up while we go on school shooting rampages and kill people in gas chambers? I really don't get the point of keeping score.Jerubbaal said:
And Western people are totally down with suicide and self-sacrifice. But anyone Christian enough to carry out a terrorist attack would be against suicide. They do things more efficiently, like at Srebrenica.
That's horrible... The eyewitness said there were dead people lying at the coast of island, so yes, I am afraid they are dead.Killerowl said:Here's a pic from Utøya. I don't know if the people in this picture are dead or alive, but it is censored so I fear the worst.
