That Boss You Never Wanted To Kill

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will1182 said:
Rundas, Ghor and Gandrayda in Metroid Prime 3 Corruption. They were good guys, but possessed by the enemy, and you had to kill them. The whole time I fought them, I just kept thinking "Don't make me do this, please". Especially Rundas, he kicked untold amounts of ass.
I agree. They all kicked large amounts of ass.

Hell, when I found out that they'd die, I was REALLY disappointed. I thought that they would just go back to normal and fight with me but when Rundas died, the only thought going through my head was "NOOOOOOOO... shit."
 

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Irridium said:
The Colossi in Shadow of the Colossus.

Those magnificent beasts were just minding their own business, just chillin'. And here comes you and you just kill them all...

Whether or not the ends justify the means was/is up to you.
I'm going to have to second this. I think every creature in the game I was like, "aaaw, but he was just enjoyin' the meadow!" or "awww, he was just havin' a swim!"
Also in the first Silent Hill:
Cybil the police officer. Though poorly voice acted, she was the one beacon of humanity from the beginning of the game. Also, I know you don't have to kill her, but who knew that on their first play-through?
 

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Saren in Mass Effect. So many shades to this character: 1)he hates humans, but only because his brother was killed in the First Contact War, 2)sold out to the reapers, but only because he believed that he could negotiate some kind of truce to save organic civilization, 3)allowed himself to be cybernetically linked to sovereign, but ultimately gave his life in an effort to redeem himself (if your charm or intimidate was high enough). He was ruthless, he was cold, he made dubious decisions, but he was not evil. Simply an honorable, flawed man who made the wrong choice. Saren was practically the definition of a literary tragic hero.
 

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bz316 said:
Saren in Mass Effect. So many shades to this character: 1)he hates humans, but only because his brother was killed in the First Contact War, 2)sold out to the reapers, but only because he believed that he could negotiate some kind of truce to save organic civilization, 3)allowed himself to be cybernetically linked to sovereign, but ultimately gave his life in an effort to redeem himself (if your charm or intimidate was high enough). He was ruthless, he was cold, he made dubious decisions, but he was not evil. Simply an honorable, flawed man who made the wrong choice. Saren was practically the definition of a literary tragic hero.
SAME here. That's exactly who I was going to say.
 

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The Boss
Dhaos (cookie for the first person to tell me the game)
Xion
The are others, but those stick out.
 

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will1182 said:
Rundas, Ghor and Gandrayda in Metroid Prime 3 Corruption. They were good guys, but possessed by the enemy, and you had to kill them. The whole time I fought them, I just kept thinking "Don't make me do this, please". Especially Rundas, he kicked untold amounts of ass.
I don't quite feel that way towards Gandrayda, but it was painful to have to kill Rundas and Ghor. Rundas because he's almost as awesome as Samus, and Ghor because... When he tells you "You have no chance of destroying the Seed, unless you restore the Aurora Unit," listen to how he says the second part. He sounds like his old self, like he's trying to fight the corruption...
 

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Xeros said:
Xion. She's your best friend throughout the game and you have to kill her for the greater good... that's probably the most fucked up thing I've ever seen in a game.

EDIT: It's also one of the most emotional experiences I've ever felt in a game. Yes, the following scene did bring me to tears.
and the sad thing is nobody even remembers her
 

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magus from chrono trigger especially since I wont get him on my team if I do that
 

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I'd have to say Ultros from FF6. He was just so useless but tried so hard, I was more interested in laughing at him than hurting him.
 

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Ditto on The Boss and the colossi mentioned already. Also, Cybil in Silent Hill in my first playthrough before I knew how to save her.
 

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DominoSmith said:
Cliff in Dead Rising. his post-traumatic stress and the fact that he watched his grandaughter eaten infront of him.
I agree I really felt bad after killing him. On topic uhh well Cliff was the only one so him I guess.
 

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Yellow 13 in Ace Combat 04. Not because I liked him or thought he was some honorable warrior- HELL no.

I've always been very, very bothered by games that try to legitimize the whole 'Red Sonja' type character, the forlorn asshole who bludgeons and slashes his way through hordes of enemies without problem, looking for a worthy opponent. They always try and make this character out to be a tragic figure you should both pity and respect.

But this is bullshit. This kind of character is a total psychopath, a man who has no qualms about killing swarms of people who don't have a chance against him and then bemoans not the horror of war or the tragedy inherent in his gift as a soldier, but that a world conflict that deprives millions of their homes and families is boring to him, and then they keep killing and killing until they find that mythic 'worthy opponent-' even though their only criterion for a worthy opponent is 'one that will kill them.'

So these games expect us to look at a character whose only motivation is to reluctantly murder as many people as they possibly can to perpetuate an unjust war on the behalf of a brutal fascist state until someone with the balls to help them commit assisted suicide comes along... and respect him? This is insane clown logic that only makes sense to elementary schoolers and metal fans, and entirely at odds with the whole 'war is hell' schtick Ace Combat inexplicably keeps tugging around with it.

Yellow 13 may have seen the war as a tragedy. He may have sought his own end as punishment for his role in it. But if that were the case, isn't he all the more dysfunctional and immoral for practically ensuring Erusea would subjugate the whole continent because he couldn't be bothered to pull the trigger himself, or- even better- desert to ISAF and fight for something other than the bleak, naked greed of militant fascist expansionism? Perhaps even- get this- fight against that? 'Keep fighting until I die or we win, but feel sorta bad about it' is really the better plan to him?

I didn't want to give Yellow 13 the 'glorious' death in battle he sought. I wanted him to rot for the rest of his life, malnourished and hepatitic, in a prison camp in San Salvacion, forced every day to bear the anger of the erstwhile-oppressed families of the men he slaughtered, struggling forever with the memory of his dead lover and the crushing denial of his demented, arrogant death wish. Death was literally too good for him.

Larry Foulke was out that way during the war. Maybe Yellow 13 and Pixy could choke each other to death for being such arrogant, psychotic pricks. They'd both get a real kick out of that.
 

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The Boss from Metal Gear Solid 3
That is the single evillest cutscene ever. I was actually in shock. "Wait... you mean I have to actually... gulp...

BANG

[manly tears]"
 

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Dr. Ned from the Dr. Ned's Zombie Island expansion of Borderlands. Gotta hate killing people with actual charisma.
 

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Majora after you find out it just wants to "Play". Kinda like killing a small puppy after that...
 

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Gordon Freeman, he's just so awesome.
Nah just joking. To be honest the ones that I didn't wanted to kill were the AI enemies in two games: GLaDOS from Portal and SHODAN from System Shock 2.
 

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I did feel bad killing Rundas, depriving the universe of his badassery was a tragedy.

And the Metal Gear games are good for it, but The Boss in particular. Also, it felt kinda wrong when i fought The End, i came back and he was just dead. He'd died of old age. Made me feel guilty about killing his parrot, you could hear his pain.
 

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King Kupofried said:
Zalbag Beoulve from Final Fantasy Tactics, the only one of Ramza's brothers that I liked, the one who came to his senses when he realize the intentions of Dycedarg were corrupt. A shame he had to die, and a shame you had to kill his possessed body.
I feel that man. Another example that pheonix downs aren't all they are cracked up to be.

But my pick goes to Fou Lou from Breath of Fire 4 the poor guy just had a string of bad luck cause of the general. Plus he was awesome to control too.
 

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[HEADING=2]BOSSSS!!![/HEADING]​
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Yeah.
The Boss AKA the joy, was the one end boss i didnt want to kill.
She kicked my ass about 5 time before I beat her and when I finally did I didnt get any joy out of it. no pun intended.
And to add insult to injury the game makes the player have to press the button to pull the trigger to finish her off.
Then the final insult happens when you learn her fully justified reasons for betraying her country, the same reasons which would turn big boss into a bad guy later on in the series.
Pretty much the whole metal gear series starts with the first Boss.

Come on who didn't get emotional at the end of MGS3.