"That's not music, it's just meaningless noise"

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JeanLuc761

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Some of my friends don't really understand why I like the music I like (examples: AC/DC, Queen, Journey, Bon Jovi, Celine Dion, Tom Jones, Michael Buble, Frank Sinatra, Mark Knopfler, Elton John, Two Steps from Hell, etc), and I am equally unable to understand why any of them like the screamo stuff that I hear so many people playing now.

I do find all screamo (that I've heard, anyway) to be meaningless noise, but who knows, maybe my friends think pretty much the same about my musical taste.
 

Blow_Pop

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Most of the music I listen to at one point or another is called meaningless noise by someone. And I listen to quite the variety. My preferences lean towards symphonic metal, country, classical, and jazz but I listen to *just about* everything. I refuse to listen to the shite that gets put on the radio and called pop music on the grounds that it isn't actual pop music more just the same shite regurgitated by people who have little to no talent and are probably in it just for the fame. But that is also MY opinion of it. And for those curious about specifically what I listen to just check my last.fm profile. Link's in my profile.
 

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ace_of_something said:
I used to sing in an old school hardcore band. "Flip the Killing Switch" (circa 1996ish) if you can find anything floating around. (unlikely)
It's all opinion. I've heard people say 'it's just noise' about almost every genre.

I knew a guy who actually listened to [a href=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_(music)]'noise music'[/a] it was literally static/white noise/feedback constructed meticulously to have 'no pattern' for 5 minutes. Very avante garde. Very horrible.
I believe his favorite artist was from japan if that tells you anything.
Haha, Noise 'music' is very popular in Japan (in an underground sense). Merzbow, aka Masami Akita, is considered the great granddad of the genre, being the first to bring this caustic brand of psychadelic, Dadist, music concrete to the 20th and 21st century, spearheading the noise movement in 1980 and remaining the most recognized name in it to this day. I could go into much more detail around the subculture surrounding it, but I'd be derailing the thread.

There are noise acts across the world in a similar vein, but Japanese noise or "Japanoiz" is still the most popular. My favorite Merzbow album is Pulse Demon (1996).

Anyways, here's a selection of "music from hell", or at least, what I'd imagine hell to sound like:
Not really heavy, often not very musical, but damn it an get chilling.
 

Fwee

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garjian said:
Firstly, I'm disappointed that this turned out to be effectively a metal thread.
Either way, nobody seems to be able to understand stuff like these:

i dunno why, i suspect people cant understand anything that isn't mindless electric guitar drone, and that makes me just as bad as them eh?
At least you've identified that trait in yourself and now you can choose to ignore it, let it fester or try to eliminate it.

I think that lots of people have low "challenge tolerance" for their taste in music. Like a fussy child that won't eat the carrots but picks out all the peas, and won't shut up about his sandwich until the crusts are cut off (not based on anyone, really). They get a new bit of music, and if it doesn't fit into their parameters of tasteful music, then it's regarded as junk. And that's their right to do so, but maybe they can just refrain from coating the room with layers of their OPINION.

As for lyrics: they're unnecessary.

Just wanted to let that hang by itself for a moment. Lyrics are jut like any other instrument in a song: they can be well used and poignantly beautiful, or they can be just more shit flying out the speakers.

Anyway, I wanted to bring up the idea of "Challenge" and also put lyrics into question because I have a few examples of my own making. From Bobbie Boob's album Have a Bang of This Little Number Then:

http://www.last.fm/music/Bobbie+Boob/Have+a+Bang+of+this+Little+Number+Then/Wobblytop

And from the album Stop/Eject:

http://www.last.fm/music/Bobbie+Boob/Stop%252FEject/Leopard+Mule

The lyrics mean nothing and they're meant to mean nothing, yet they carry a message by instilling a feeling in the listener.

http://www.last.fm/music/Bobbie+Boob/_/My+Hole+in+this+Thumb
http://www.last.fm/music/Bobbie+Boob/Stop%252FEject/Synapshriek

This is where "Challenge" comes into play. Bobbie Boob has a running theme in many of his albums wherein he presents lots of challenging sounds, but many people will find at least a couple tracks they'll like. And if they don't, he doesn't care anyway. They can't stop him from making music.

And now a few "Pleasant" tracks to cleanse the pallette:

http://bobbieboob.bandcamp.com/track/real-rainbow
http://bobbieboob.bandcamp.com/track/throwing-a-large-pan-filled-with-water-down-the-stairs

http://mindlessmachines.com/
 

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Now that I've matured some, it's no longer "music that's good and music that sucks." I've toned it down to "music I like and music I don't." And my range, though a lot is "that 80's metal," also has tastes from classical to chiptune. I can appreciate the composition of the songs Ben Daglish did for "The Last Ninja" extruded through a SID chip as well as enjoy several compositions of Bach.

I don't like Ween (their voices immediately irritate my ears and gets worse from there), I find a lot of Black Metal and the heavier stuff too harsh on the ears because most of them use solid-state amps, music with too much angst (I have next to zero tolerance for drama outside of a movie) and prefab bands like Nickelback (because I can't tell them apart from the other dozen bands getting airplay at the moment). While I am perfectly fine with people liking these things to the level of mental illness, I have no patience anymore for genre fanboys who like to crow about the "virtues" of their bands and how anything else is a waste of time listening to. Zeppelin and Doors fans have thoroughly ruined my enjoyment of these bands because they wouldn't stop evangelizing to me about how perfect their sound is.