The acceptable face of middle aged women being attracted to minors.

[2012 Wont Happen]

Why can't women have fantasies of 18 year old boys? They are of concenting age here in the states. Men do the same thing.

The question was under 18 year olds.

Consent in most US states is sixteen.
Next largest group is seventeen.
Former Puritan colonies and Florida have it at eighteen.

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Oh yeah. And it's sooo haaard being a man.
If only I could be a woman, and while we're at it a racial minority, life would be soooo much easier

 

[m3nt1a]

I find it hilarious and rage-inducing how people are mentioning the age of consent when it has no factual basis and is an example of bigotry against people under an arbitrary age limit that is rampant in almost all modern societies.

But as you said OP "one rule for men, one rule for women". That's how society generally works. Get used to it.

 

[Giftfromme]

am i not watching this properly, who here is fantasizing about justin beiber? the alien daughter mentions him in a jokingly insulting way and thats it. really dont know what your taking offense with here.

After the daughter mentions the name, the mother goes "Mmmm...Bieber", which if you think about it, makes her a lesbian.

OMG that is such a funny joke!!!!! Beiber is successful, and hated for it, so he must in fact be a girl!!!!! OMG LOL The mother who fantasises about Beiber is in fact a lesbian!!!! LOOOOOL AHAHAHAHHA

But yeah on topic I don't see what can be so offensive about this.

 

[mjc0961]

Relevant section 0.33 seconds in. So another confirmation of it being socially OK for middle aged women

Middle aged women? All I saw was a blue alien puppet thing. The whole basis of your rant falls apart when it's not an actual woman in the ad!

 

[ph0b0s123]

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I am thinking you read too much into it.
You never saw a girl in swimwear though she looked hot only to find out shes only 16 or 17?

But I not advocating that, I just saying older men oggie at 18 years olds in swimwear why can women do the same? Why it has to be morally wrong for 1 gender but not the other.

Who said women cannot look at 18 years olds. Again for the hard of hearing the whole point of the thread is about under 18's. I make no moral judgments (and have not through this thread) about people being able ogle 16 & 17 year olds, that is a separate discussion. I again have only been endeavoring to point out the disparity of societal reaction to said ogling of under 18's. For women it's 'you go girl', for men it's 'where's my torch and pitch fork'. The video I posted is just another example of how mainstream this disparity is. Again I make no moral judgments about the underlying ogling, only the reaction to it.

This is even the case if, as many here have speculated, that she wanted to eat him. If the Farther had made the statement about someone like Dakota Fanning (I believe also 17), after the wife had said 'mmm eggnog...'. Would people have allowed for the for the fact he meant eat her because he's an alien. No, they would have gone straight for the sexual angle. They would have complained, and even though this sentiment is not illegal and breaks no Ofcom rules, Argos would have pulled it, as it would made their brand look bad. That's if it ever got the the screen in the first place....

 

[ph0b0s123]

As long as the law isn't recognizing any double standard, then it's really up to people's own standards whether they personally view it as different or not. It is their inalienable right to despise men for the exact same thing m does (or vice versa, as will come into play when a woman is playing the field an being sexually aggressive)

You don't have to listen to anything but the law, and hence nothing else ultimately matter. Unless you yourself choose it to, in pursuit of social acceptance or whatever.

Unfortunately the law is applied by juries who are perfectly capable of carrying this double standard into decisions about guilt or innocence.

Relevant section 0.33 seconds in. So another confirmation of it being socially OK for middle aged women

Middle aged women? All I saw was a blue alien puppet thing. The whole basis of your rant falls apart when it's not an actual woman in the ad!

Wow, someone thinks they are clever don't they. If the Farther puppet had made the same statements about 17 year olds girls no one would have batted and eyelid, because it's a puppet? Yeah, right....

 

[chadachada123]

This sounds to like like a Western World Problem. You want to ogle young girls without catching flak, move to Japan.

You do realize he is making is that middle aged adults SHOULD NOT be openly fantasizing about minors right? That in a society that celebrates "equality" we should not be so willing to celebrate or at the very least turn a blind eye to behaviours like this based on sex.

My my someone didn't get the joke. Also someone quite clearly doesn't realize that North America is pretty much the only place on the planet left where the age of consent is as high as it is.

Get a sense of humour.

Err...the age of consent for about half of the US is the same as Britain's. Way to stereotype an entire CONTINENT for the laws of a considerably small portion of it.

Ummm... Half of the U.S. isn't an entire continent. If you think that you need to get over yourself. Age of consent In MOST of N. America is 16.

My joke was also about the fact that here in N.America, it's taboo for middle aged people to be attracted to minors culturally, while in the Majority of the world, it isn't.

...You said that "North America is pretty much the only place on the planet left where the age of consent is as high as it is," to which I replied that half of the US has the same AoC as Britain (leaving out Mexico and Canada because it's general knowledge that the AoC is 16 or lower for those two). You replied stating that I was correct, that most of North America does NOT have a high age of consent, but that that somehow makes you correct.

You need help learning how to comprehend simple statements. You said that North America has a high age of consent. I pointed out that most of it doesn't, and that you're stereotyping an entire continent based on the small portion that does have the AoC at 18. You replied saying yes, I was right.

Am I the only one that sees a massive flaw in your...er...what exactly are you even attempting to prove, here? (Regarding AoC LAWS, not social perceptions)

 

[Squilookle]

Relevant section 0.33 seconds in. So another confirmation of it being socially OK for middle aged women to fantasies about under 18 males, in the this case Bieber (17).

Wow wow hold on a second- what makes you so sure it's a sexual attraction? It's safe to say that the dad's attraction to Eggnog wouldn't be for sex, would it? Beiber is known for other things besides being young- how do you know she's not just thinking fondly of his songs, or say, his singing voice?

 

[inquisiti0n]

it's because women aren't taken seriously. just look at some of the prison sentences handed out to female criminals.

society views them as overgrown children and most don't do much to disprove that notion (eg, gleefully taking advantage of the double standards that act in their favour)

 

[Powereaver]

my mum ALWAYS goes for guys who are like my age.. and im 25 and shes 52 its like gross mum date guys closer to your own age but i cant stop her whatever i do.. its like BAH! *throws arms in air in defeat* she has this whole thing about older guys want a mother .. younger guys dont

 

[Powereaver]

my mum ALWAYS goes for guys who are like my age.. and im 25 and shes 52 its like gross mum date guys closer to your own age but i cant stop her whatever i do.. its like BAH! *throws arms in air in defeat* she has this whole thing about older guys want a mother .. younger guys dont

A woman hits her sexual peak at 40, a man at 20. She wants the 25 year old because she has more sexual appetite than the girls you date and he has more ability to plow her hard and long than the guys her age. And of course she probably knows WAY more about sex than you do, so the young guys can learn few things from her.

i will now go and get the heavy duty brain cleanser after you said that about my mum *horrifying thoughts*

 

[hoobajoob]

Lads, you're confused. There are two groups of people who want two different things. On the one hand, you've got folks who hate everything that's happened since 1962. They're the ones in love with Bieber, perhaps inappropriately as this commercial indicates. The little chipmunk is everything they like: cute, white, inoffensive and terminally stupid. They're the ones who want the double standards to stay, and they're the ones most television ads are designed for. They are NOT the ones complaining about inequality or trying to make society move forward; those folks don't get as much advertising thrown their way because they tend to be less obsessed with buying shit. Ads tend to be reactionary, not revolutionary. It's a big part of why 99% of all advertising is so skull-fuckingly unbearable.

 

[ph0b0s123]

This sounds to like like a Western World Problem. You want to ogle young girls without catching flak, move to Japan.

You do realize he is making is that middle aged adults SHOULD NOT be openly fantasizing about minors right? That in a society that celebrates "equality" we should not be so willing to celebrate or at the very least turn a blind eye to behaviours like this based on sex.

My my someone didn't get the joke. Also someone quite clearly doesn't realize that North America is pretty much the only place on the planet left where the age of consent is as high as it is.

Get a sense of humour.

Err...the age of consent for about half of the US is the same as Britain's. Way to stereotype an entire CONTINENT for the laws of a considerably small portion of it.

Ummm... Half of the U.S. isn't an entire continent. If you think that you need to get over yourself. Age of consent In MOST of N. America is 16.

My joke was also about the fact that here in N.America, it's taboo for middle aged people to be attracted to minors culturally, while in the Majority of the world, it isn't.

...You said that "North America is pretty much the only place on the planet left where the age of consent is as high as it is," to which I replied that half of the US has the same AoC as Britain (leaving out Mexico and Canada because it's general knowledge that the AoC is 16 or lower for those two). You replied stating that I was correct, that most of North America does NOT have a high age of consent, but that that somehow makes you correct.

You need help learning how to comprehend simple statements. You said that North America has a high age of consent. I pointed out that most of it doesn't, and that you're stereotyping an entire continent based on the small portion that does have the AoC at 18. You replied saying yes, I was right.

Am I the only one that sees a massive flaw in your...er...what exactly are you even attempting to prove, here? (Regarding AoC LAWS, not social perceptions)

One thing though, how does the Federal AoC of 18 come in. Doesn't that mean if you have a partner in another state (both your and their state having an AoC of 16 say), but one of you has the cross state lines to get together. Don't you then fall foul of the Federal law?

 

[Lerasai]

Most people view women lusting after younger men different than men lusting after younger women because they view the actual "lusting" as different.

For a man it is interpreted as being more predatory and sexual, while in our culture women are depicted as sexually attractive, but not actually being sexual if that makes sense. If it had been a man fantasizing about a female celebrity Bieber's age it would have been seen as more perverted than a woman fantasizing, because they don't think a woman's thoughts would be as graphic and overtly sexual. As if every woman's fantasies are of a romantic nature instead of sexual and a man's would be all sex. It's not true, of course, and it's as insulting to women as it is to men, but honestly it was a joke and hopefully these misconceptions should change with time.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

This sounds to like like a Western World Problem. You want to ogle young girls without catching flak, move to Japan.

You do realize he is making is that middle aged adults SHOULD NOT be openly fantasizing about minors right? That in a society that celebrates "equality" we should not be so willing to celebrate or at the very least turn a blind eye to behaviours like this based on sex.

My my someone didn't get the joke. Also someone quite clearly doesn't realize that North America is pretty much the only place on the planet left where the age of consent is as high as it is.

Get a sense of humour.

Err...the age of consent for about half of the US is the same as Britain's. Way to stereotype an entire CONTINENT for the laws of a considerably small portion of it.

Ummm... Half of the U.S. isn't an entire continent. If you think that you need to get over yourself. Age of consent In MOST of N. America is 16.

My joke was also about the fact that here in N.America, it's taboo for middle aged people to be attracted to minors culturally, while in the Majority of the world, it isn't.

...You said that "North America is pretty much the only place on the planet left where the age of consent is as high as it is," to which I replied that half of the US has the same AoC as Britain (leaving out Mexico and Canada because it's general knowledge that the AoC is 16 or lower for those two). You replied stating that I was correct, that most of North America does NOT have a high age of consent, but that that somehow makes you correct.

You need help learning how to comprehend simple statements. You said that North America has a high age of consent. I pointed out that most of it doesn't, and that you're stereotyping an entire continent based on the small portion that does have the AoC at 18. You replied saying yes, I was right.

Am I the only one that sees a massive flaw in your...er...what exactly are you even attempting to prove, here? (Regarding AoC LAWS, not social perceptions)

*Facepalm* I never said you were right. I said that using half of the U.S. doesn't account for the entire continent of N.A.

If with your knowledge that half the States have the same AoC laws as the U.K. is countered by the fact that the other half has AoC laws that are higher. Factor that in with the amount of countries in the Southern part of N. America have AoC laws that are 18.

You need to read carefully.

And using "half of the U.S." doesn't help your arrgument when the other half, along with the majority of countries in N.America has AoC laws that are 17-18.

Coupled in with the fact that it's more common for European countries to have AoC laws 16 and under and your argument is rendered invalid.

I wasn't stereotyping anything, the facts are there.

I was also making a joke that only in the Western World would it be a shock that middle aged people would have an attraction to minors when what we consider minors is culturally and within their laws.

You really wanted to turn a simple joke into an argument didn't you?

North America just has stricter rules on drinking and AoC than the bulk of the world. Fact.